Re: [Tagging] Future proposal - RFC - amenity=dormitory

2014-07-12 Thread Dave Swarthout
Same here in the U.S. Usage of the word dormitory generally applies to a
single building, a student residence on or near a college campus.

For your situation you might try using a relation to group the buildings as
a named dormitory and then for each individual building you could enter its
own name, purpose, address, etc.


On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 6:25 AM, Dudley Ibbett 
wrote:

>  Hi
>
> I was going to say that from a UK English perspective I have never seen
> dormitory used in this way.  However, in the context of a dictionary
> definition the proposal seems to relate to the definition with regard to a
> suburb  "A small town or suburb providing a residential area for those
> who work in a nearby city".It also appears that it would be used as a
> modifier.  i.e. a dormitory suburb.
>
> I may have got this wrong but the proposal would seem to be extending this
> definition to mean a type of "suburb" of the University.   UK Universities
> are rather small to have "dormitory suburbs" and you would generally just
> talk about the "halls of residence" or the perhaps the "residential" area
> of a campus.
>
> Regards
>
> Dudley
>
>
> --
> From: christoph-jai...@gmx.de
> To: tagging@openstreetmap.org
> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 09:17:27 +
> Subject: [Tagging] Future proposal - RFC - amenity=dormitory
>
>
> Hey,
>
> I just need some opinions to a proposal:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/amenity%3Ddormitory
>
> Greetings
>
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Port and terminals

2014-07-12 Thread sabas88
2014-07-08 11:44 GMT+02:00 Andreas Goss :

>  We could use a single polygon per terminal tagged as in the proposal
>> (similar to other landuse types) if we need to go in detail. If needed
>> using also multiple values (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Semicolon)
>>
>
> If you read the page you will see that it pretty much says: DON'T USE
> SEMI-COLONS UNLESS THERE IS NOT OTHER OPTION.
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Semicolon#Better_alternatives
> Would for example work here.
>

Hi Andreas,
thanks, I added a notice under Tagging section (
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/landuse%3Dport#Multiple_values_handling
)

As general reminder, there's a week left to vote the proposals
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/landuse%3Dport
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Intermodal_Terminal

Regards,
Stefano

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Re: [Tagging] convert imported natural=rock areas to bare_rock

2014-07-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer


> Am 12/lug/2014 um 03:47 schrieb Friedrich Volkmann :
> 
> natural=water/sand/grass/glacier/etc. all of
> which are about the surface


I don't like grass and sand either, neither water but that is probably too 
widely used. Glacier on the other hand is fine, please note that the tag is not 
natural=ice which would be analogous to bare_rock

cheers,
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Re: [Tagging] Future proposal - RFC - amenity=dormitory

2014-07-12 Thread Dudley Ibbett



Hi

I was going to say that from a UK English perspective I have never seen 
dormitory used in this way.  However, in the context of a dictionary definition 
the proposal seems to relate to the definition with regard to a suburb  "A 
small town or suburb providing a residential area for those who work in a 
nearby city".It also appears that it would be used as a modifier.  i.e. a 
dormitory suburb. 

I may have got this wrong but the proposal would seem to be extending this 
definition to mean a type of "suburb" of the University.   UK Universities are 
rather small to have "dormitory suburbs" and you would generally just talk 
about the "halls of residence" or the perhaps the "residential" area of a 
campus.

Regards

Dudley


From: christoph-jai...@gmx.de
To: tagging@openstreetmap.org
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 09:17:27 +
Subject: [Tagging] Future proposal - RFC - amenity=dormitory

Hey, I just need some opinions to a 
proposal:https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/amenity%3Ddormitory
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Re: [Tagging] Suggestions for the correct tagging of Field borders

2014-07-12 Thread Simon Wüllhorst
Hello,
thanks for your feedback. I created a proposed features page for
fieldmargins where I wrote down my ideas about this topic.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/fieldmargin

Please give me feedback (here or on the wikipage) to improve this propose.

Greetings,
Simon


2014-07-05 19:00 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer :

>
>
> > Am 05/lug/2014 um 11:08 schrieb Simon Wüllhorst <
> m...@simon-wuellhorst.de>:
> >
> > Is a proposal-page in the wiki needed?
>
>
>
> It is Not strictly needed (you can use the tag straight away), but it is
> recommended in order to have some documentation remaining. I'd also suggest
> to put a link (see also) on landuse farmland
>
>
> cheers,
> Martin
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[Tagging] Future proposal - RFC - amenity=dormitory

2014-07-12 Thread christoph-jainek
Hey,

 

I just need some opinions to a proposal:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/amenity%3Ddormitory

 

Greetings


 

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Re: [Tagging] convert imported natural=rock areas to bare_rock

2014-07-12 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Saturday 12 July 2014, Friedrich Volkmann wrote:
>
> That's how natural=bare_rock is defined ("areas made principally or
> mostly of solid rock"), analogous to
> natural=water/sand/grass/glacier/etc. all of which are about the
> surface. The bare_rock proposal was approved 2 years ago and there
> are 64 566 occurrences by now.

Most of these are from the Antarctica import [1] where they mostly 
comply with the definition quite well although in some part areas have 
a thin, patchy scree cover.

The Corine natural=rock areas on the other hand are not 
natural=bare_rock, neither factually as you can easily check with a few 
examples nor by definition [2] where it is simply described as "Scree, 
cliffs, rocks outcrops, including active erosion, rocks and reef flats 
situated above the high-water mark".

Based on this it would probably not be a good idea to mechanically 
re-tag these to natural=bare_rock but this is something that should be 
discussed at the appropriate place (i.e. in imports).  In my opinion 
these areas would need manual reviewing and fixing before any 
meaningful tags can be applied.  In many cases it might be easier to 
remap the area from scratch.

[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Antarctic_Digital_Database
[2] http://www.eea.europa.eu/publications/COR0-landcover/land_cover.pdf

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Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Beach routing

2014-07-12 Thread Ole Nielsen



On 11/07/2014 22:43, Richard Weait wrote:

On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Elliott Plack  wrote:

OSM US:

I've been using some routing engines to map fitness routes (e.g. Strava)
that use OSM data. Along our US coasts, there are beaches. The beaches I'm
familiar with are popular with walkers and joggers to go up and down the
shore, since access is generally open to anyone along the water's edge. I'm
considering adding a `highway=path` along the beach to facilitate this. I'd
add the connections to the walking paths between parking lots and the beach
as well.

For uninterrupted strips of sandy beach, would a path be appropriate to
indicate walkability?


Adding a single arbitrary path where an area exists seems a bit of a
hack. I recognize that part of the problem that you are trying to
address is that routers aren't routing across areas. And that is
surely a difficult problem to solve.  Is the creation of arbitrary
fake-paths a worse problem than not being able to route with specific
routing software?  Perhaps.

A similar situation exists in (micro-)mapping golf courses.  Some
courses have cart paths with discontinuities.  Often those
discontinuities direct you to drive the cart (or walk, I'm not
"judging" here) on the fairway, until the next section of physical
cart path begins.  In that situation, I only map the real path, not
the virtual path.

The another similarity is that users will select different paths for
different reasons. Beach walkers may divert towards interesting items
on the beach, or away from waves, washouts or debris.  Golf players
will be guided by course rules, weather rules and the location of
their ball.  The golf player is probably more likely to complete a
predictable circuit.  Beach walkers might follow an "out and back" of
entirely arbitrary length.

Using a router to select a, let's say, 5km stroll, out and back on a
beach, seems of limited utility.

I suggest, "no path on the beach".  Map a boardwalk where one exists,
by all means.  And adding those access ramps / paths is awesome.  ;-)


Maybe this proposal could be promoted to solve this problem?

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/virtual_highway

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