Re: [Tagging] Commons: mixed purposes

2014-08-17 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
2014-08-17 20:45 GMT+02:00 Eugene Alvin Villar :

> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Andy Mabbett 
> wrote:
>
>> What should we sue to link to Wikimedia commons categories like:
>>
>>https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:St_Paul,_Birmingham
>>
>> I've previously used Wikimedia_Commons=, but that's verbose; and I
>> seem to be alone in doing so.
>>
>
> Wouldn't linking using the wikidata=* tag be better as the Wikidata entry
> for St Paul's Church in Birmingham should link to the appropriate page or
> category on Wikimedia Commons?
>
> So I would tag the OSM object representing St Paul's Church as
> wikidata=Q915614
>

Some minor objects may have category/image on Wikimedia Commons but have no
wikidata and never will have -
see https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Notability
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Re: [Tagging] Commons: mixed purposes

2014-08-17 Thread Andreas Goss

That would be my preference, but there has been some resistance to
Wikidata tags, from people who prefer human-readable tag values; so I
tend to use one of each.


I think that would be better addressed by various tools grabbing the 
name for the Wikidata ID and then displaying it. Otherwise we will soon 
even have a 4th Wikimedia entry as people start to add Wikivoyage tags 
as they also make a lot of sense for maps, which are often used for 
tourism. Even Wikisource might sometimes make sense. Or we even see 
artist:wikiquote=*...

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Re: [Tagging] Commons: mixed purposes

2014-08-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 17 August 2014 21:31, Martin Koppenhoefer  wrote:
>> I've previously used Wikimedia_Commons=, but that's verbose; and I
>> seem to be alone in doing so.
>
>
> +1
> If this makes any sense (maybe exceptions, cases that can't be covered with 
> wikidata) I'd also suggest the long form as you do (but without 
> capitalization).

OK, how's this :

   http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:wikimedia_commons

as a start?


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Re: [Tagging] Commons: mixed purposes

2014-08-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 17 August 2014 19:45, Eugene Alvin Villar  wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Andy Mabbett 
> wrote:
>>
>> What should we sue to link to Wikimedia commons categories like:
>>
>>https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:St_Paul,_Birmingham
>>
>> I've previously used Wikimedia_Commons=, but that's verbose; and I
>> seem to be alone in doing so.
>
>
> Wouldn't linking using the wikidata=* tag be better as the Wikidata entry
> for St Paul's Church in Birmingham should link to the appropriate page or
> category on Wikimedia Commons?
>
> So I would tag the OSM object representing St Paul's Church as
> wikidata=Q915614

That would be my preference, but there has been some resistance to
Wikidata tags, from people who prefer human-readable tag values; so I
tend to use one of each.

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Re: [Tagging] Commons: mixed purposes

2014-08-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer


> Il giorno 17/ago/2014, alle ore 13:45, Andy Mabbett 
>  ha scritto:
> 
> I've previously used Wikimedia_Commons=, but that's verbose; and I
> seem to be alone in doing so.


+1
If this makes any sense (maybe exceptions, cases that can't be covered with 
wikidata) I'd also suggest the long form as you do (but without capitalization).

Cheers,
Martin
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Re: [Tagging] Commons: mixed purposes

2014-08-17 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Andy Mabbett 
wrote:

> What should we sue to link to Wikimedia commons categories like:
>
>https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:St_Paul,_Birmingham
>
> I've previously used Wikimedia_Commons=, but that's verbose; and I
> seem to be alone in doing so.
>

Wouldn't linking using the wikidata=* tag be better as the Wikidata entry
for St Paul's Church in Birmingham should link to the appropriate page or
category on Wikimedia Commons?

So I would tag the OSM object representing St Paul's Church as
wikidata=Q915614
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[Tagging] Commons: mixed purposes

2014-08-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
It seems that people are using "commons=" for two different purposes:

  http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/commons#values

physical things that are freely available for common usage; like
bicycle pumps and community gardens, but also links to Wikimedia
Commons.

How should we resolve this? What should we sue to link to Wikimedia
commons categories like:

   https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:St_Paul,_Birmingham

I've previously used Wikimedia_Commons=, but that's verbose; and I
seem to be alone in doing so.

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