Re: [Tagging] Ambiguous surface=wood

2014-08-22 Thread Dan S
I'd say it's very rare that wood could be interpreted as possibly
meaning woodchip. Woodchip has very different material properties,
and different affordances for travellers. A little bit like saying
wood might mean sawdust ;)

surface=woodchip is used more often than surface=woodchips, though
neither of them is used very much at the moment:
taginfo.openstreetmap.org/compare/surface=woodchip/surface=woodchips

I would advocate surface=woodchip (singular), and preserve the
existing meaning of surface=wood as planks.

Maybe we should document surface=woodchip?

Just my 2p
Dan


2014-08-22 6:53 GMT+01:00 Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com:
 I discovered* that surface=wood is ambiguous and may mean two very different
 things:
 1) paths with wood chips
 2) paths paved with wooden planks (for example
 https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plik:Bernatek_foot-bridge_%28Love_padlocks%29,_Krakow,_Poland.jpg
 )

 I want to tag in way that would be clear, now I consider using for the
 second
 situation [surface=wood; wood=planks] or [surface=planks] and
 [surface=wood; wood=chips] or [surface=woodchips] for the first one.

 Currently wiki mentions only situation (2).

 *http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=444548#p444548

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Re: [Tagging] Ambiguous surface=wood

2014-08-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
I'd suggest surface=timber  surface= woodchip
On Aug 22, 2014 6:53 AM, Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com wrote:

 I discovered* that surface=wood is ambiguous and may mean two very
 different things:
 1) paths with wood chips
 2) paths paved with wooden planks (for example

 https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plik:Bernatek_foot-bridge_%28Love_padlocks%29,_Krakow,_Poland.jpg
 )

 I want to tag in way that would be clear, now I consider using for the
 second
 situation [surface=wood; wood=planks] or [surface=planks] and
 [surface=wood; wood=chips] or [surface=woodchips] for the first one.

 Currently wiki mentions only situation (2).

 *http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=444548#p444548

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Re: [Tagging] Ambiguous surface=wood

2014-08-22 Thread Volker Schmidt
Keep surface=wood with the meaning planks. It's used very frequently
(typically for bridges)
Add surface=woodchip(s)


On 22 August 2014 09:22, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

 I'd suggest surface=timber  surface= woodchip
 On Aug 22, 2014 6:53 AM, Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com wrote:

 I discovered* that surface=wood is ambiguous and may mean two very
 different things:
 1) paths with wood chips
 2) paths paved with wooden planks (for example

 https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plik:Bernatek_foot-bridge_%28Love_padlocks%29,_Krakow,_Poland.jpg
 )

 I want to tag in way that would be clear, now I consider using for the
 second
 situation [surface=wood; wood=planks] or [surface=planks] and
 [surface=wood; wood=chips] or [surface=woodchips] for the first one.

 Currently wiki mentions only situation (2).

 *http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=444548#p444548

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[Tagging] Fwd: Information board details in bus stops

2014-08-22 Thread Pieren
I forward my question here because I think my first attempt was done
on the wrong list (tran...@openstreetmap.org) :

 Hi,

 How would you tag an information board in a bus stop and mainly, if
 there is a timetable, map, etc.

 This picture on twitter suggests new tags:
 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvUsqMEIMAA3VRf.jpg

 information:name, information:map, information:timetable

 I didn't find an existing wiki proposal for such details.

My question is about the information board/boards at bus stops which
someone tries to tag in details in his French city (think about
disabilities). Accidentally, on the transit list, the tag strip=yes
was also questionned (check the picture). I guess it's about the road
markings on the road itself where the bus actually stops (but not
sure, it's maybe also something for blinds). Someone on the other list
suggested to replace it by road_markings=yes. Any other suggestions
about this and the information boards ?

Pieren

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Re: [Tagging] Forest vs Wood

2014-08-22 Thread Pieren
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Andrew Guertin andrew.guer...@uvm.edu wrote:
 landcover=forest
 anywhere there's trees on the ground
 landuse=managed_forest
 where logging activity occurs or the forest is otherwise closely
 tended by humans
 natural=wild_forest
 forests without much human activity, either because they're
 protected or because they're far away from humans

So, after 7 or 8 years of confusion about 2 main tags for forest,
the best idea now is to introduce a third one...

Pieren

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Re: [Tagging] Ambiguous surface=wood

2014-08-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer


 Il giorno 22/ago/2014, alle ore 09:36, Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com ha 
 scritto:
 
 Keep surface=wood with the meaning planks. It's used very frequently 
 (typically for bridges)
 Add surface=woodchip(s)


+1
the singular/plural question cannot be answered easily by looking at current 
values, as both occurs, eg paving_stones or concrete:plates, but also 
cobblestone, pebblestone or grass_paver: 
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/surface#values

Cheers,
Martin


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