Re: [Tagging] key:destination Signpost question
the tag is used directly (e.g. destination=Exampletown) on the ways leading away from a bifurcation, and/or in the form of destination:lanes (e.g. destination:lanes=Exampletown| Foobarcity) on the way leading towards the bifurcation. Thanks for this explication! I was always in doubt where exactly “destination=*” had to be applied and the description on the wiki is not really easy to understand (and the examples IMHO make the things even more unclear instead of making them clear). Your explication is clear and easy to understand. Maybe we could add you explication to the wiki? (I would volonteer to do so.) Lukas Lukas Sommer 2014-08-30 2:33 GMT+00:00 Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org: On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote: On 29.08.2014 21:16, Paul Johnson wrote: Destinations are supposed to be relations, and the members are pretty clear. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:destination_sign#Members I believe Kristen was talking about Key:destination, which is what should replace exit_to. I honestly don't see how this fixes any problems exit_to had given that 1) I'd be surprised if there's not a major US city that doesn't have a bifurcated split of equal priority making two or more ramps in otherwise ambiguous directions, and 2) many large cities have left exits (Tulsa's interstate 244 has many on the eastside) and 3) there's even center exits. Westbound US 26 at OR 8 has OR 8 leaving the roadway from the number 3 lane, with lanes 1, 2 and 4(!) continuing through on 26, and a few miles east, US 26 East makes a hard right turn, where I 405 North and Market Street are a left and a center exit respectively... ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Ablution area
Hi, I would like to propose a new tag for Ablution (ritual purification). Wikipedia says that that there's Ablution in Islam, Christianity and Judaism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ablution and worship sites usually have an area set aside for this. Islam: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ablution_area_inside_Eastern_wall_of_Badshahi_mosque.JPG Judaism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ritual_washing_in_Judaism#mediaviewer/File:Ramban_Synagogue_IMG_0027.JPG I would like to tag it as amenity=ablution for a stand alone facility as pictured above or ablution=yes if a toilet has facilities specifically for performing ablution. -- Best regards Mishari Muqbil Twitter: @mishari Skype: misharim Phone: +66 81 8240629 EE32 64BD 7D1F 5946 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Archway
Hi, In this photo http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/idFfQ3kADwqnRL25JEF78g http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/j_Uwf2UAiHjKi_ovtcu_LQ there's a landmark up ahead at the entrance to the housing project that resembles an arch. It's quite a prominent landmark in an area which is otherwise devoid of any distinct features. Does anyone have an idea as to how to tag this? -- Best regards Mishari Muqbil Twitter: @mishari Skype: misharim Phone: +66 81 8240629 EE32 64BD 7D1F 5946 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] aeroway=taxiway as area
If you want to map the whole area, maybe the best way is to use this proposal: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/area:highway and tag with area:aeroway=taxiway Janko 2014-08-29 22:59 GMT+02:00 Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org: On 08/29/2014 10:38 PM, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: Why the value description table of http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:aeroway%3Dtaxiway states that aeroway=taxiway should not be used on areas? Is there a valid point for this ? If you are going to perform airport routing (now that would be quite exotic), my understanding is that typical routing engines don't take surfaces into account in their calculations. Otherwise, just make sure that you are not confusing aeroway=taxiway with aeroway=apron - most airport surfaces that you might be tempted to model as surfaces are actually aprons rather than taxiways. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Archway
That is an excellent question. This arch is quite large but there are many other similar structures in villages all over Thailand. I have seen many of them but have never tagged any. There is a barrier=archway used twice in Taginfo but the ones I've seen are not barriers in the usual sense of that word. The key landmark might be a possibility, for example, landmark=archway? On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Mishari Muqbil mish...@mishari.net wrote: Hi, In this photo http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/idFfQ3kADwqnRL25JEF78g http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/j_Uwf2UAiHjKi_ovtcu_LQ there's a landmark up ahead at the entrance to the housing project that resembles an arch. It's quite a prominent landmark in an area which is otherwise devoid of any distinct features. Does anyone have an idea as to how to tag this? -- Best regards Mishari Muqbil Twitter: @mishari Skype: misharim Phone: +66 81 8240629 EE32 64BD 7D1F 5946 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- Dave Swarthout Homer, Alaska Chiang Mai, Thailand Travel Blog at http://dswarthout.blogspot.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Ablution area
FWIW, I traveled extensively in New Zealand a few years ago and there an ablution block (or ablution area) is a place in a campground where one washes things — dishes, clothing, etc. That definition of ablution is also a sort of purification, I reckon. Cheers Dave On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Mishari Muqbil mish...@mishari.net wrote: Hi, I would like to propose a new tag for Ablution (ritual purification). Wikipedia says that that there's Ablution in Islam, Christianity and Judaism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ablution and worship sites usually have an area set aside for this. Islam: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ablution_area_inside_Eastern_wall_of_Badshahi_mosque.JPG Judaism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ritual_washing_in_Judaism#mediaviewer/File:Ramban_Synagogue_IMG_0027.JPG I would like to tag it as amenity=ablution for a stand alone facility as pictured above or ablution=yes if a toilet has facilities specifically for performing ablution. -- Best regards Mishari Muqbil Twitter: @mishari Skype: misharim Phone: +66 81 8240629 EE32 64BD 7D1F 5946 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- Dave Swarthout Homer, Alaska Chiang Mai, Thailand Travel Blog at http://dswarthout.blogspot.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] include smoothness=* in JOSM presets?
Hi, there have been requests to include the tag smoothness=* in the JOSM presets [1]. Everywhere the user can fill in surface=*, we would add an additional option for smoothness=*. Apart from the value (excellent, good, ...) we would include the explanation from the wiki into the selection combo box. Do you think this tag is considered mainstream by now or are there still many people who oppose the usage of this tag? I know there have been lengthy discussions on this topic before and I don't want to start another one. This is supposed to be something like a quick poll. [1] http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/6881 Paul ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] include smoothness=* in JOSM presets?
On 30 August 2014 12:54, Paul Hartmann phaau...@gmail.com wrote: there have been requests to include the tag smoothness=* in the JOSM presets [1]. Everywhere the user can fill in surface=*, we would add an additional option for smoothness=*. Apart from the value (excellent, good, ...) we would include the explanation from the wiki into the selection combo box. That seems like a very arbitrary classification system. What's excellent for me on my pushbike might be awful for someone walking in wet or or icy weather. A choice of * very rough * rough * medium * smooth * very smooth or suchlike might be better, but even then I doubt three mappers would always agree on which to use for a given place. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] include smoothness=* in JOSM presets?
2014-08-30 13:54 GMT+02:00 Paul Hartmann phaau...@gmail.com: Hi, there have been requests to include the tag smoothness=* in the JOSM presets [1]. Everywhere the user can fill in surface=*, we would add an additional option for smoothness=*. Apart from the value (excellent, good, ...) we would include the explanation from the wiki into the selection combo box. Do you think this tag is considered mainstream by now or are there still many people who oppose the usage of this tag? I know there have been lengthy discussions on this topic before and I don't want to start another one. This is supposed to be something like a quick poll. [1] http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/6881 Paul ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging I use smoothness and I would welcome it in JOSM. I am not really happy about it, but I was unable to invent something better and it not as bad as say maxspeed:practical. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] include smoothness=* in JOSM presets?
I agree with Mateusz Volker On 30 August 2014 18:01, Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-08-30 13:54 GMT+02:00 Paul Hartmann phaau...@gmail.com: Hi, there have been requests to include the tag smoothness=* in the JOSM presets [1]. Everywhere the user can fill in surface=*, we would add an additional option for smoothness=*. Apart from the value (excellent, good, ...) we would include the explanation from the wiki into the selection combo box. Do you think this tag is considered mainstream by now or are there still many people who oppose the usage of this tag? I know there have been lengthy discussions on this topic before and I don't want to start another one. This is supposed to be something like a quick poll. [1] http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/6881 Paul ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging I use smoothness and I would welcome it in JOSM. I am not really happy about it, but I was unable to invent something better and it not as bad as say maxspeed:practical. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] include smoothness=* in JOSM presets?
We are supporting `smoothness` in iD. Now as of a month ago, we display friendlier (and translatable) text descriptions for these kinds of dropdown fields. (e.g. sac_scale, track type, trail_visibility, etc) When I added these last month, I did borrow heavily from the descriptions on the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:smoothness. https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/blob/master/data/presets/fields/smoothness.json thanks, Bryan On Aug 30, 2014, at 12:01 PM, Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-08-30 13:54 GMT+02:00 Paul Hartmann phaau...@gmail.com: Hi, there have been requests to include the tag smoothness=* in the JOSM presets [1]. Everywhere the user can fill in surface=*, we would add an additional option for smoothness=*. Apart from the value (excellent, good, ...) we would include the explanation from the wiki into the selection combo box. Do you think this tag is considered mainstream by now or are there still many people who oppose the usage of this tag? I know there have been lengthy discussions on this topic before and I don't want to start another one. This is supposed to be something like a quick poll. [1] http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/6881 Paul ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging I use smoothness and I would welcome it in JOSM. I am not really happy about it, but I was unable to invent something better and it not as bad as say maxspeed:practical. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Ablution area
On 2014-08-30 10:55, Dave Swarthout wrote : FWIW, I traveled extensively in New Zealand a few years ago and there an "ablution block" (or ablution area) is a place in a campground where one washes things — dishes, clothing, etc. That definition of ablution is also a sort of "purification", I reckon. In French, "ablution" means hygienic body washing. Misleading. Purification is a secondary meaning. On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Mishari Muqbil mish...@mishari.net wrote: Hi, I would like to propose a new tag for Ablution (ritual purification). Wikipedia says that that there's Ablution in Islam, Christianity and Judaism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ablution and worship sites usually have an area set aside for this. Islam: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ablution_area_inside_Eastern_wall_of_Badshahi_mosque.JPG Judaism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ritual_washing_in_Judaism#mediaviewer/File:Ramban_Synagogue_IMG_0027.JPG I would like to tag it as amenity=ablution for a stand alone facility as pictured above or ablution=yes if a toilet has facilities specifically for performing ablution. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] include smoothness=* in JOSM presets?
Il giorno 30/ago/2014, alle ore 14:46, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk ha scritto: I doubt three mappers would always agree on which to use for a given place. I think complete agreement is not necessary, it would be sufficient if it were +-1, similar to road classification with the highway key ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] include smoothness=* in JOSM presets?
I also agree with Mateusz. I would like to see use of the smoothness tag become more universal so building it into a JOSM preset sounds like a good idea. However, as others have said, the topic has had much discussion but little agreement on exactly how to determine the value. A highway that has excellent smoothness for automobiles may be not so smooth for a bicyclist. It is a subjective tag and there's no getting around that fact therefore you can expect some criticism for this addition. Cheers, Dave On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 7:31 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Il giorno 30/ago/2014, alle ore 14:46, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk ha scritto: I doubt three mappers would always agree on which to use for a given place. I think complete agreement is not necessary, it would be sufficient if it were +-1, similar to road classification with the highway key ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- Dave Swarthout Homer, Alaska Chiang Mai, Thailand Travel Blog at http://dswarthout.blogspot.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
