On 3/01/2015 4:56 PM, tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote:
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2015 04:45:24 +0100
From: Andreas Gossandi...@t-online.de
To:tagging@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Tagging] Change of rendering: place of worship and
terminal without building tag
Since when do we use ways for landuse=* ?
Also I have not found a single one that is tagged like you say. They are
all areas.
Why multipolygons? Typical area with various church thingies (church,
vicarage etc)
is not requiring multypolygon - it is usually may be represented by a
simple
this is just a polygon around a church yard, with the rest of the buildings
and amenities inside.
EXCEPT it does NOT say church yard but religious landuse.
So this is how I would use this tag: http://i.imgur.com/KZvkB3i.png
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I'm mapping in Thailand where the majority of temples sit inside a
compound, typically enclosed by walls, inside of which are the main temple
and any number of buildings. Monks' residences, guest facilities, food
shops, all are enclosed by the walls. The enclosures are fairly obvious in
the Bing
Querying runway lengrh from the database - sorry I missed this proposal.
I see three problems:
What about small airport next to big one - how it should be guessed who
operates which runways?
As both are mapped as nodes it is necessary to guess.
Writing query to calculate it is not trivial (for
I mentioned - some really small airports have this codes.
See - https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/218821049
1048 m of grassy runway, has its own IATA code
2015-01-03 15:30 GMT+01:00 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com:
I'm not an expert, but don't only big airports have the IATA code? Only 9
I would dispute Just because the node is tagged as *wayside_shrine* in
combination
with *natural=tree* does not mean that there has to be a tree shrine (could
also be a
regular wayside_shrine and a tree which are too close together to tag them
effectively as two different nodes).
It is always
I'm not an expert, but don't only big airports have the IATA code? Only 9
airports have the IATA code in Croatia, and about 30 have the ICAO code.
Maybe you have to meet certain standards to get the IATA code.
Janko Mihelić
2015-01-03 14:54 GMT+01:00 Christoph Hormann chris_horm...@gmx.de:
On
I wanted to tag these for some time and realized some people already did
a lot of work, especially in Europe. Now I just wanted to discuss some
tags and unify everything.
I also started documenting everything here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcharging_station/Tesla_Motors
With current tagging scheme for airports there is no reliable method to
decide whatever
something is a major airport (serving a big city) or a small unimportant
barely used one
(grassy field with a shed).
It would be highly useful to start using tagging method that would allow it.
Considered
On Saturday 03 January 2015, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
- introducing new key that would allow to decide whatever
airport is important or not
Independent from this particular problem manually tagging importance
ratings is a really bad idea. Importance of a feature is nearly always
a
On Jan 3, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Andreas Goss andi...@t-online.de wrote:
this is just a polygon around a church yard, with the rest of the buildings
and amenities inside.
EXCEPT it does NOT say church yard but religious landuse.
So this is how I would use this tag:
That is how I had interpreted access=destination also. Just because it has
a specific legal meaning in the UK doesn't mean the tag can't be used
elsewhere in the world.
--
John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot
drive out
Landuse=religious AFAIK started being used for land that is owned by a
religious entity, and in it there would be schools, playgrounds, priest
living grounds, and so on. Then this was disputed, and if this was actually
landuse=residential.
Some said it should be used for the land around a church,
The situation in India could mean that a congregation was meeting on that
site, and planned to construct a building there, but had not yet done so.
--
John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot
drive out hate; only love can
To make such a rating verifiable would
require to have a recipe to calculate it from other observable facts -
and then it is better to tag these facts rather than the combined
rating calculated from them.
Yes, I thought about something like that. But as my knowledge about
aviation is limited and
On Saturday 03 January 2015, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
What about small airport next to big one - how it should be guessed
who operates which runways?
As both are mapped as nodes it is necessary to guess.
Yes, this is somewhat complex but if performance is not an issue this is
doable i think.
John F. Eldredge wrote:
That is how I had interpreted access=destination also. Just because
it has a specific legal meaning in the UK doesn't mean the tag can't
be used elsewhere in the world.
Absolutely - this is true of pretty much every highway= value and they, too,
have been adapted for
So, would it be OK to assume that large airports are important and small
ones (including mapped as nodes)
are unimportant?
2015-01-03 15:55 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com:
Am 03.01.2015 um 15:33 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com:
As both are mapped as
There's a different problem. An airport with a grassy runway in Europe
should be rendered at z13. Not very important. But a grassy runway in
Africa, 500km from the nearest airport is important enough for z7.
We should start making algorithms that take into account the context of an
entity. Maybe
Am 03.01.2015 um 15:33 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com:
As both are mapped as nodes it is necessary to guess.
mapping something as big (and typically well delimited, eg with fences) as an
airport with a node is really preliminary and I'd expect this to change over
time
So a reasonable solution would be to tag roadways as access=private if they
can only be used by specific people such as residents or maintenance
vehicles, and access=destination if the general public can use them to
enter a particular area, but can't use them as a through route.
--
John F.
Mateusz Konieczny wrote on 2015-01-03 18:02:
Typical situation in Poland is that only residents may drive on some roads
in housing estates - not everybody who wants to reach this place.
So I am using vehicle=private - despite the fact that it is quite different from
private as in only one
I'm OK with this. Pretty rare to see indoor (or even specifically
denominational!) PoWs at Boy Scout camps in the US from what I've seen.
On Jan 2, 2015 9:45 AM, Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't agree that place_of_worship requires a building.
Yes. But buildings that are
Typical situation in Poland is that only residents may drive on some roads
in housing estates - not everybody who wants to reach this place.
So I am using vehicle=private - despite the fact that it is quite different
from
private as in only one person may use this road. vehicle=destination
is not
On Jan 4, 2015, at 1:38 AM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
The situation in India could mean that a congregation was meeting on that
site, and planned to construct a building there, but had not yet done so.
Eventually landuse=religious, unless you are a member of the
And since r7923 JOSM will complain about missing building tag for
aeroway=terminal
http://josm.openstreetmap.de/changeset/7923/josm - thanks to Don-vip
2015-01-02 16:43 GMT+01:00 Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com:
Query to find aeroway=terminal without building tag:
On Jan 3, 2015 4:14 AM, John Willis jo...@mac.com wrote:
On Jan 3, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com
wrote:
Why multipolygons? Typical area with various church thingies (church,
vicarage etc)
is not requiring multypolygon - it is usually may be represented by a
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Rainer Fügenstein r...@oudeis.org wrote:
there is a shop nearby that exactly matches this definition. but in
addition, it also offers repairs of TV sets, radio sets and other
consumer electronics.
In this case, presumably service=repair should be used in
michal,
MB I don't know whether re-using service=* key is a great idea, as it's
MB normally used as a refinement to highway=service
I took the idea from the shop=car wiki page.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dcar
MB (Compare that with
MB all these type=* issues where it collides
The only civilian airport within my prefecture - the only one for 2 hours of
driving - is a public heliport. It would be nice if it would get named below
z13. the name disappears after that. but maybe that has to do with label
priority of the tagged stuff on the heliport grounds. I don’t know.
On Jan 3, 2015, at 5:26 PM, Andreas Goss andi...@t-online.de wrote:
Since when do we use ways for landuse=* ?
Also I have not found a single one that is tagged like you say. They are all
areas.
I think he means closed way = area, as landuse implies area=yes .
Javbw
Why
On Saturday, January 3, 2015, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
Not sure why a church / temple/ shrine/ mosque landuse would be drawn
any differently than an office park or a retail shop.
This could get interesting. St Matthew Lutheran in Beaverton, OR has a Les
Schwab Tire Center
put up a tent to sell widgets qualifies as landuse=retail and uses a lot
to store metal bars
qualifies as landuse=industrial. There is no need to wait.
2015-01-04 0:27 GMT+01:00 johnw jo...@mac.com:
On Jan 4, 2015, at 1:38 AM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com
wrote:
The situation in
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