[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Temperature=

2015-02-24 Thread Warin
Hi, Well it has been 3 weeks for the comments .. a few changes/modifications, thanks for those. Time now to vote... Review the whole page - from the top https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Temperature Or go straight to voting

Re: [Tagging] maxwidth vs. maxwidth:physical vs. width

2015-02-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 3:58 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: I'd expect the width to be the width of the bollard and maxwidth the (in theory legal) width of the vehicle that can pass through (e.g. number taken by reading off a sign) and you might want to add

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

2015-02-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:15 AM, Jan van Bekkum jan.vanbek...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all comments. I would like to throw another issue in before I update the proposal with the recommendations all of you made. What to do with places where one *cannot* camp? I have run in many

[Tagging] Super-keys are evil

2015-02-24 Thread Kurt Blunt
In a previous thread on this mailing list, someone proposed amenity=reception_desk. Someone else observed that the amenity key is where you put a new tag when you don't know where else to put it. I think this is a symptom of a bigger problem with tags on OSM. Right now, tags serve two distinct

Re: [Tagging] Super-keys are evil

2015-02-24 Thread Pieren
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 2:43 AM, Kurt Blunt k.bl...@inbox.com wrote: When you want to tag the same point with multiple categories, those categories must share the same tag and be separated by a semicolon e.g. shop=convenience;alcohol. That is, unless the two categories are under two

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

2015-02-24 Thread Jan van Bekkum
*Camping categories* From this discussion I propose to maintain three categories, but name them as listed below. I give examples from own experience from our overland trip from the Netherlands to South Africa in an attempt to answer the question why we would want them on the map: - Designated:

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

2015-02-24 Thread John F. Eldredge
Perhaps there should also be a way to tag unofficial campsites where there is evidence someone has camped in the past, but the action is now risky? For example, the site is downhill from a slope where the ground is starting to split open, meaning that there is a high risk of a landslide in the

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

2015-02-24 Thread althio
On 24 February 2015 at 08:55, David Bannon dban...@internode.on.net wrote: On Tue, 2015-02-24 at 06:15 +, Jan van Bekkum wrote: What to do with places where one cannot camp? But your examples mostly focus on what were once campsites and are now not. So is it camp_site=closed (or disused

Re: [Tagging] Super-keys are evil

2015-02-24 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
The editing tools have a role here, with iD leading the way. With iD one writes the thing, for example a bathroom. The editor matches this to available tags and lets you choose. It even hides the actual tag name (amenity=toilet most likely in this case). Thus with a good set of aliases, the

Re: [Tagging] Super-keys are evil

2015-02-24 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I think the top level keys have tremendous value. For example the current scheme allows rendering of generic tourist attractions and shops, even if the individual shop types are unknown (e.g. the singular dog collar shop in OSM and probably the world).

Re: [Tagging] Super-keys are evil

2015-02-24 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 02/23/2015 02:43 AM, Kurt Blunt wrote: Right now, tags serve two distinct purposes. There are attribute tags like name=Wall Street, and there are category tags like amenity=parking or aeroway=helipad. This works for many things but not all; the border can be blurred. You will not be

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

2015-02-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: Areas, e.g. National Parks, often have a blanket camping policy. For example camp only in designated sites. Or camp anywhere 200 feet from water. That too could use a tagging. Restriction multipolygons?

Re: [Tagging] Super-keys are evil

2015-02-24 Thread John Willis
On Feb 25, 2015, at 3:55 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: The editing tools have a role here, with iD leading the way. With iD one writes the thing, for example a bathroom. The editor matches this to available tags and lets you choose. It even hides the actual tag name

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

2015-02-24 Thread Warin
On 24/02/2015 4:41 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: A strongly related discussion: tagging the difference between an official trail, and shortcut / use trail / squatter trail. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org