Re: [Tagging] Tagging scrap yards, junkyards

On 20/01/2016 23:12, Dave Swarthout wrote: A waste transfer station is a different operation from this one, which is a place to store used parts for the long-term until someone buys them. The things stored therein are not waste but resellable parts. If I want a tail-light lens for a 1975 Ford,

Re: [Tagging] Tagging scrap yards, junkyards

A waste transfer station is a different operation from this one, which is a place to store used parts for the long-term until someone buys them. The things stored therein are not waste but resellable parts. If I want a tail-light lens for a 1975 Ford, for example, the best place, often the only pla

Re: [Tagging] Removing name_1 and alt_name_1 from Wiki

I just want to mention again: this proposal is about the wiki, that name_1 and alt_name_1 should not be suggested there for good tagging. Its not about the existing data in OSM. On 20.01.2016 23:35, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: > On 20/01/2016, Mike N wrote: >> On 1/20/2016 3:39 PM, Dominic Coletti w

Re: [Tagging] Removing name_1 and alt_name_1 from Wiki

On 20/01/2016, Mike N wrote: > On 1/20/2016 3:39 PM, Dominic Coletti wrote: >> I see 808,000 uses of name_1 and 65,000 of name_2. And 609,505 alt_name and 6,013 alt_name_1. These approximate figues have already been mentioned in this thread. Does Anybody have stats on how many "*name*" tags have

Re: [Tagging] Please don't think name_1 tags are errors.

On 17/01/2016, Hakuch wrote: > for me the use of alt_name_1 is more logical than the name_1, because > alt_name is the meaning of name_1! So, if you have a second name and you > dont know where to put it (loc_name, old_name...) you can use alt_name. > And if you have a third name you SHOULD use al

Re: [Tagging] Removing name_1 and alt_name_1 from Wiki

* Mike N [160120 21:47]: > On 1/20/2016 3:39 PM, Dominic Coletti wrote: >> I see 808,000 uses of name_1 and 65,000 of name_2. > Many of these are from the US TIGER import, and must not be > automatically removed. They would go into alt_name , etc based on local > knowledge. The problem with

Re: [Tagging] Removing name_1 and alt_name_1 from Wiki

On 1/20/2016 3:39 PM, Dominic Coletti wrote: I see 808,000 uses of name_1 and 65,000 of name_2. Many of these are from the US TIGER import, and must not be automatically removed. They would go into alt_name , etc based on local knowledge. ___ Ta

Re: [Tagging] Tagging scrap yards, junkyards

On 21/01/2016 4:31 AM, Andy Townsend wrote: On 20/01/2016 17:19, Matthijs Melissen wrote: On 20 January 2016 at 02:03, Dave Swarthout > wrote: I'm trying to decide how to tag what we in the U.S. refer to as junkyards. ... Would amenity=waste_tra

Re: [Tagging] Removing name_1 and alt_name_1 from Wiki

I see 808,000 uses of name_1 and 65,000 of name_2. On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 10:07 AM moltonel 3x Combo wrote: > On 19/01/2016, Andy Townsend wrote: > > It's not used by anyone as far as I can see: > > > > http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=%3B%3B > > > > (unless taginfo is doing some spec

Re: [Tagging] Tagging scrap yards, junkyards

> On Jan 20, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Matthijs Melissen > wrote: > > On 20 January 2016 at 02:03, Dave Swarthout > wrote: > > I'm trying to decide how to tag what we in the U.S. refer to as junkyards. > Mostly these are where old automobiles go when they are discarde

Re: [Tagging] Tagging scrap yards, junkyards

On 20/01/2016 17:19, Matthijs Melissen wrote: On 20 January 2016 at 02:03, Dave Swarthout > wrote: I'm trying to decide how to tag what we in the U.S. refer to as junkyards. ... Would amenity=waste_transfer_station be an option? See https://wiki

Re: [Tagging] Tagging scrap yards, junkyards

On 20 January 2016 at 02:03, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > I'm trying to decide how to tag what we in the U.S. refer to as junkyards. > Mostly these are where old automobiles go when they are discarded and are a > source of used parts. They are therefore an amenity of considerable value, > at least t

[Tagging] key:priority

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:priority Would there be any major objection to expanding the priority key to include two way, multilane situations? Example would be a two way street that was formerly a one-way street, and has signal timings as if it were a one-way street (thus the green wa

Re: [Tagging] Removing name_1 and alt_name_1 from Wiki

On 19/01/2016, Andy Townsend wrote: > It's not used by anyone as far as I can see: > > http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=%3B%3B > > (unless taginfo is doing some special filtering) http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=%3B (a single ";") doesn't find any value either, so taginfo can't

Re: [Tagging] Removing name_1 and alt_name_1 from Wiki

On 20/01/2016 09:01, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Power users might switch on the data layer on osm.org and look at the data directly I hardly describe the data layer as 'direct' viewing. It offers the same information, in the same format, as looking at a node/way individually

Re: [Tagging] Tagging scrap yards, junkyards

taginfo suggests "amenity=scrapyard" actually (60, as opposed to 20 industrial=scrap_yard). I like that one. I must have missed it on my brief gander at Taginfo :-0 How then to add tags for the "stuff" stored there - cars, metals, building materials, etc. ? scrap=cars scrap=metal ??

Re: [Tagging] Please don't think name_1 tags are errors.

On 20/01/2016 05:30, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Ralph Aytoun mailto:ralph.ayt...@ntlworld.com>> wrote: New mappers have a lot to learn. They have enough of a problem just learning how to use the tools and finding out what basic tagging is without being in

Re: [Tagging] Removing name_1 and alt_name_1 from Wiki

however, everything depends on the key definition, in opening_hours for example you use || as "or". Thats ok because that key does not expect parameters, lane=* does On 20.01.2016 15:05, Hakuch wrote: > On 20.01.2016 08:30, Colin Smale wrote: >> If the "semicolon >> syntax" defines a "list of valu

Re: [Tagging] Removing name_1 and alt_name_1 from Wiki

On 20.01.2016 08:30, Colin Smale wrote: > If the "semicolon > syntax" defines a "list of values", shouldn't stuff remove an empty > value from the list (i.e. replace ;; with ; ) and then remove the whole > tag if the list is empty? no, because in this context (semicolons) the ;; should't be reco

Re: [Tagging] Tagging scrap yards, junkyards

2016-01-20 12:05 GMT+01:00 Andy Townsend : > taginfo suggests "amenity=scrapyard" actually (60, as opposed to 20 > industrial=scrap_yard). +1, if you don't like man_made, make it amenity. Any subtags for the kind of stuff (ships, cars, machinery, ...)? Cheers, Martin __

Re: [Tagging] parking for motorcycles AND bicycles

We already have something similar in amenity=parking hiking=yes ski=yes in order to indicate that a parking is mostly used for people who go hiking and/or skiing. I.e. not for parking of boots and skis... In other words, if you use bicycle=yes it may not be obvious whether it is: * a bi

Re: [Tagging] Tagging scrap yards, junkyards

On 20/01/2016 09:16, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2016-01-20 2:03 GMT+01:00 Dave Swarthout >: After consulting Taginfo I've come up with these two tags for now: landuse=industrial industrial=scrap_yard Opinions, suggestions? I'd prefer a "feat

[Tagging] parking for motorcycles AND bicycles

We have: amenity=parking (which assumes cars as vehicles) amenity=motorcycle_parking amenity=bicycle_parking We are apparently lacking a proper tag for mixed bicycle and motorbicycle parking. What about amenity=parking motorcar=no motorcycle=yes bicycle=yes ? __

Re: [Tagging] Tagging scrap yards, junkyards

2016-01-20 2:03 GMT+01:00 Dave Swarthout : > After consulting Taginfo I've come up with these two tags for now: > landuse=industrial > industrial=scrap_yard > > Opinions, suggestions? > I'd prefer a "feature" tag, rather than a refinement of the landus attribute. What about man_made=scrap_yard?

Re: [Tagging] Removing name_1 and alt_name_1 from Wiki

2016-01-20 8:30 GMT+01:00 Colin Smale : > Yes I'm sure... Notice I put the word "direct" in there. No "end user" of > the data will use the data directly, there is always a presentation layer > in the middle, which formats up numbers and dates, converts units, > localises key words, etc etc. it

Re: [Tagging] Removing name_1 and alt_name_1 from Wiki

Exactly. If a missing value (i.e. use the default) is not the same as explicitly having NO value, how do you override the default with "no value"? --colin On 2016-01-20 08:50, Gerd Petermann wrote: > I don't think that the meaning really depends on the position. My > understanding is that th