Re: [Tagging] JOSM preset with strange tag values

2016-03-03 Thread Marc Gemis
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> Am 03.03.2016 um 14:41 schrieb Marc Gemis : >> >> I'l agree that when there are separate tags for rental and repair >> there is no need for sales=no. >> Only when you try to bring

Re: [Tagging] JOSM preset with strange tag values

2016-03-03 Thread Dave Swarthout
On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I don't see why a place to rent motorcycles should be tagged in a way that > facilitates confusion with a place that sells motorcycles. Why would you do > this? People look either for the first or the second but

Re: [Tagging] JOSM preset with strange tag values

2016-03-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 03.03.2016 um 14:41 schrieb Marc Gemis : > > I'l agree that when there are separate tags for rental and repair > there is no need for sales=no. > Only when you try to bring everything under 1 umbrella the sales=no makes > sense. I don't see why a

Re: [Tagging] JOSM preset with strange tag values

2016-03-03 Thread Marc Gemis
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2016-03-03 13:21 GMT+01:00 Marc Gemis : >> >> In combination with service=yes or rental=yes, sale/sells=no makes >> sense, not ? > > > > > if it is a service station, I'd map it like this,

Re: [Tagging] JOSM preset with strange tag values

2016-03-03 Thread Colin Smale
Is there nothing for motorcycle clothing? Leathers, boots, gloves, helmets... That doesn't immediately appear to fall under m_parts, m_rental or m_repair. --colin On 2016-03-03 14:25, Dave Swarthout wrote: >> Rather than introducing new tags via editor presets people should "discuss" >> new

Re: [Tagging] JOSM preset with strange tag values

2016-03-03 Thread Dave Swarthout
>Rather than introducing new tags via editor presets people should "discuss" new tags (e.g. by dropping a note on the tagging ML), +1 I agree totally. But the sale tag is there in the Preset already - how did that happen? The Wiki page tells us that sale refers to the fact that "whole"

Re: [Tagging] JOSM preset with strange tag values

2016-03-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2016-03-03 13:21 GMT+01:00 Marc Gemis : > In combination with service=yes or rental=yes, sale/sells=no makes > sense, not ? > if it is a service station, I'd map it like this, or shop=motorcycle_repair in analogy to the very established shop=car_repair

Re: [Tagging] sloped_curb, kerb and god knows what left in limbo ......

2016-03-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2016-03-03 12:24 GMT+01:00 Simon Poole : > My question was solely if there is some consensus that the kerb proposal > is actually how it should be tagged now or if it is truly defunct and the > original tagging scheme should continued to be used (as iD does). I'm in favour of

Re: [Tagging] JOSM preset with strange tag values

2016-03-03 Thread Marc Gemis
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > How many motorcycle shops do not sell something? In combination with service=yes or rental=yes, sale/sells=no makes sense, not ? In case the shop=motorcycle has to be used for places where you can only rent or

Re: [Tagging] sloped_curb, kerb and god knows what left in limbo ......

2016-03-03 Thread Simon Poole
As pointed in my first mail out the issue is deprecating an existing scheme in the wiki without replacing it with something else that is either recognized as "how we do it now" or "approved" (the issue is not that there is yet another scheme bit rotting in proposal state). My question was solely

Re: [Tagging] sloped_curb, kerb and god knows what left in limbo ......

2016-03-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2016-03-03 11:43 GMT+01:00 Simon Poole : > The problem is "we" didn't. As already pointed out, there is only a > proposal that has been bit-rotting for multiple years (it probably, when > used on a crossing node, should have kerb:right and kerb:left variants for > the asymmetric

Re: [Tagging] sloped_curb, kerb and god knows what left in limbo ......

2016-03-03 Thread Simon Poole
Am 03.03.2016 um 11:23 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > > 2016-03-02 17:42 GMT+01:00 Simon Poole >: > > While the abandoned proposal seems to be more complete and I can't say > anything about the other variant because of the lacking >

Re: [Tagging] sloped_curb, kerb and god knows what left in limbo ......

2016-03-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2016-03-02 17:42 GMT+01:00 Simon Poole : > While the abandoned proposal seems to be more complete and I can't say > anything about the other variant because of the lacking documentation, I > don't really care either way, it would simply make easier if we could > come to some

Re: [Tagging] JOSM preset with strange tag values

2016-03-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2016-03-03 8:35 GMT+01:00 Dave Swarthout : > For example, I agree "sells" would be a better tag than "sale" but sale is > already present in the JOSM preset. Well, then remove it and change it to "sells:" ;-) Have a look at the current usage of "sale":

Re: [Tagging] Proposal about suffixed tags has been approved

2016-03-03 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 03/03/2016, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> Am 03.03.2016 um 03:57 schrieb moltonel 3x Combo : >> >> The fact that we don't know wether the extra name is an old_name or a >> loc_name or something else is independant of how the extra name was >> taged.

Re: [Tagging] JOSM preset with strange tag values

2016-03-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 03.03.2016 um 02:23 schrieb Dave Swarthout : > > the wording in the Wiki is followed then this tag means the shop sells "whole > motorcycles" (as opposed to pieces of motorcycles) of a certain brand. Fine, > but the brand tag in the main