Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - learner driver

2016-06-24 Thread Greg Troxel
Michael Tsang writes: >> And, it would be good to first thing about how access rights for learner >> drivers differs from regular drivers. I can't think of any difference >> around me (although learners are required to have an adult real driver >> with them, and not allowed to drive late at ni

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - learner driver

2016-06-24 Thread Colin Smale
On 2016-06-24 11:47, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2016-06-24 11:20 GMT+02:00 Colin Smale : > >> In OSM there has always been "space" to add new detail. What one person >> finds a ridiculous level of micro-mapping, someone else may consider >> valuable data. For example, I as a cyclist am not bo

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - learner driver

2016-06-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2016-06-24 11:20 GMT+02:00 Colin Smale : > In OSM there has always been "space" to add new detail. What one person > finds a ridiculous level of micro-mapping, someone else may consider > valuable data. For example, I as a cyclist am not bothered about > maxheight=* but truck drivers are. In the p

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - learner driver

2016-06-24 Thread Tom Pfeifer
Colin Smale wrote on 2016/06/24 11:20: In OSM there has always been "space" to add new detail. Yes, but as Martin pointed out, such restriction is more bound to the user of the road then the road itself. It varies among different classes of such users. The default values are different from jur

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - learner driver

2016-06-24 Thread Colin Smale
On 2016-06-24 10:29, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > so the idea is to tag all motorways with the no tag in the UK, and there are > no exceptions to this rule possible (e.g. by putting up traffic signs > "learners allowed")? > > In Italy there is a rule (likely elsewhere as well), that the maxspe

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - learner driver

2016-06-24 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri Jun 24 08:57:39 2016 GMT+0100, Colin Smale wrote: > On 2016-06-24 09:42, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > >> Il giorno 24 giu 2016, alle ore 08:24, Michael Tsang > >> ha scritto: > >> > >> Learners can drive on most roads, therefore, the default is yes, with the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - learner driver

2016-06-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 24 giu 2016, alle ore 09:57, Colin Smale ha > scritto: > > In the UK learners are not allowed on motorways. That also includes for > example non-learner car drivers on a motorcycle without a motorcyle licence, > who have to display L-plates of course. Discussio

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - learner driver

2016-06-24 Thread Mark Wagner
On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 00:00:13 +0800 Michael Tsang wrote: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/learner_driver > > The proposed feature learner driver is to tag the legal access of a > highway by a vehicle driven by a learner driver. It is similar to > Key:access#Transport mode re

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - learner driver

2016-06-24 Thread Anders Fougner
Off topic: In my opinion, that's how *all* access tags should have been. It's incredibly many who don't know that bicycle=yes/no/whatever is an access tag and not a "route choice opinion" or something like that. So they put bicycle=no if they don't think it fits their commute bike... Access:bic

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - learner driver

2016-06-24 Thread Colin Smale
On 2016-06-24 09:42, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > sent from a phone > >> Il giorno 24 giu 2016, alle ore 08:24, Michael Tsang >> ha scritto: >> >> Learners can drive on most roads, therefore, the default is yes, with the >> exception of motorways where the default is no. > > is this somethin

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - learner driver

2016-06-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 24 giu 2016, alle ore 08:24, Michael Tsang > ha scritto: > > Learners can drive on most roads, therefore, the default is yes, with the > exception of motorways where the default is no. is this something that can also be decided on an individual basis, or are a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - learner driver

2016-06-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 24 giu 2016, alle ore 00:24, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> ha > scritto: > > Does not make human sense. > Might be better tagged access:learner_driver=no/yes ? This clearly identifies > it as an access function. +1 while this is not in line with the rest of th

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - learner driver

2016-06-24 Thread Colin Smale
On 2016-06-24 08:24, Michael Tsang wrote: > Learners can drive on most roads, therefore, the default is yes, with the > exception of motorways where the default is no. This could be more complex than you realise: What about full licence holders who are learning to drive a truck? What about young