Re: [Tagging] Hunting area tagging

2016-10-25 Thread Marc Gemis
I wonder whether a simple hunting=yes is sufficient. In Belgium you can only hunt for a limited period of the year and even within that period there are sub-periods for different animals. Hunting in Flanders is often on fields and meadows, but you have to stay at least 150m (AFAIK) away from the

Re: [Tagging] Hunting area tagging

2016-10-25 Thread Lauri Kytömaa
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > if the forest and the hunting area are known under different names, under > which tag would you put which name? Two points for the whole discussion thread: 1) Forest areas (with the tag, that is) can be subdivided for various attributes, like

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

2016-10-25 Thread Warin
On 26-Oct-16 08:52 AM, Michael Reichert wrote: Hi Warin, Am 25.10.2016 um 23:32 schrieb Warin: ? You are not proposing removing all the English names from the data base?! No, he doesn't. He just proposes to remove the English name from the name=* tag in countries where English is neither an

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

2016-10-25 Thread Colin Smale
Are you talking about the "default map", or the underlying data (i.e. the contents of name and name:xx tags)? This is the wrong place to discuss rendering of the default map, and I thought this thread was about the contents of the name tag. It is probably not a good idea to discuss rendering

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

2016-10-25 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Warin, Am 25.10.2016 um 23:32 schrieb Warin: > ? You are not proposing removing all the English names from the data base?! No, he doesn't. He just proposes to remove the English name from the name=* tag in countries where English is neither an official language nor a common (but

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

2016-10-25 Thread Colin Smale
On 2016-10-25 23:32, Warin wrote: > ? You are not proposing removing all the English names from the data base?! > > The entered tags should be left in the data base. If they are considered to be in agreement with the consensus view as to their contents. > How they are used (rendered) is your

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

2016-10-25 Thread Warin
On 26-Oct-16 02:02 AM, Sven Geggus wrote: So I propose a correction of all country names to names into official langages of the respective countries only and to remove all english names. Any objectives? ? You are not proposing removing all the English names from the data base?! The

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

2016-10-25 Thread Simon Poole
On 25.10.2016 21:47, Kevin Kenny wrote: > It gets even more complicated in places of disputed sovereignty, where > the choice of name makes a political statement and speech is not as free > as it usually is in the West. In the PRC, it would actually be unlawful > to put the name 中華民國 (or 中华民国)

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

2016-10-25 Thread Kevin Kenny
It gets even more complicated in places of disputed sovereignty, where the choice of name makes a political statement and speech is not as free as it usually is in the West. In the PRC, it would actually be unlawful to put the name 中華民國 (or 中华民国) on a map, while in Taiwan, it might be lawful to

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

2016-10-25 Thread Colin Smale
Imagine for a moment an OSM world without the simple name=* tag. All names have to be qualified with their language, so even in the UK we would use name:en=*. This would make several things clear: * every name is in some language or other - useful for pronunciation, prefix/suffix recognition,

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

2016-10-25 Thread Simon Poole
As an inhabitant of one the countries mentioned with multiple official languages may I quickly chip in: our previous solution was to simply leave the name tag empty given that stuffing the 4 official language variants in to the name tags was rather unwieldy and even so none of them are actually

Re: [Tagging] test track tagging (vs highway=raceway)

2016-10-25 Thread Max
There are also test tracks/circuits that are part of the public streets and just marked with tiny signs. On 2016년 10월 20일 17:46, Richard Welty wrote: i don't have a particular proposal in mind for this, just looking for input. there are various tracks in the world that are not used for

Re: [Tagging] test track tagging (vs highway=raceway)

2016-10-25 Thread Jerry Clough - OSM
Hi Richard, Not just test tracks. Your post instantly brought to mind the training track at  the Police school outside Merida. I'm sure other Police training establishments must also have tracks designed for training of advanced driving skills. | | | | || | | | | |

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

2016-10-25 Thread Richard Welty
On 10/25/16 2:44 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > sent from a phone > >> Il giorno 25 ott 2016, alle ore 17:02, Sven Geggus >> ha scritto: >> >> So I propose a correction of all country names to names into official >> langages of >> the respective countries only

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

2016-10-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 25 ott 2016, alle ore 17:02, Sven Geggus > ha scritto: > > So I propose a correction of all country names to names into official > langages of > the respective countries only and to remove all english names. btw, this is not

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

2016-10-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 25 ott 2016, alle ore 17:02, Sven Geggus > ha scritto: > > So I propose a correction of all country names to names into official > langages of > the respective countries only and to remove all english names. how are you going to

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

2016-10-25 Thread Andy Townsend
So what do _you_ think should be in the "name" tag for Algeria then? If you think there's a simple answer, I'd suggest that you haven't quite got to the nub of the problem yet...   Original Message   From: Sven Geggus Sent: Tuesday, 25 October 2016 20:14 To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Reply To:

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

2016-10-25 Thread Sven Geggus
Andy Townsend wrote: > As has already been said this _ought_ to be a job for wikidata. Thus one would need an additional external database to render a proper map! I don't think that this is the way to go in such a simple case. Frankly I don't care that much about the proper

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

2016-10-25 Thread Andy Townsend
‎> I think we should come up with a common sense rule what name should usually contain‎ I suspect that it might take some time before consensus is reached on that one :) There have been a number of discussions about "what should be in a name" worldwide, and getting people within one country to

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

2016-10-25 Thread Sven Geggus
Chris Hill wrote: > How would you propose making this change? I think we should come up whith a common sense rule what name should usually contain (hence this discussion) and thus the tagging can be changed by mappers accordingly. Currently the state is inconsistent (see

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

2016-10-25 Thread Sven Geggus
Stefano wrote: > If you'd want the name only in official languageS the problem will arise in > countries with more than one (and equally) official language. Not really, I do not consider rendering something like this a bad idea: Algerien (ⵍⵣⵣⴰⵢⴻⵔ الجزائر) Kurrently we have

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

2016-10-25 Thread Stefano
2016-10-25 17:02 GMT+02:00 Sven Geggus : > > So I propose a correction of all country names to names into official > langages of > the respective countries only and to remove all english names. > If you'd want the name only in official languageS the problem will

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

2016-10-25 Thread Chris Hill
How would you propose making this change? Cheers, Chris (chillly) On 25 October 2016 16:02:05 BST, Sven Geggus wrote: >Hello, > >in our localized German map style we try to render Country names in >German >with local name in parenthesis. > >This works fine for a lot

[Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

2016-10-25 Thread Sven Geggus
Hello, in our localized German map style we try to render Country names in German with local name in parenthesis. This works fine for a lot of countries. An example would be Thailand: Thailand (ประเทศไทย) or (more readable for westerners) France: Frankreich (France) Unfortunately there are

Re: [Tagging] Hunting area tagging

2016-10-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2016-10-24 23:48 GMT+02:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > > Use the same method as for bridges .. > > the 'primary' feature name > > name=* > > the 'other' feature > > hunting:name=* > > forest:name=* > > These details are trivial. I do indeed propose the same method as for bridges, where I