Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

On 26/10/2016 22:36, Warin wrote: On 26-Oct-16 07:32 PM, Sven Geggus wrote: I hope we agree, that changing the name tag in a way that it appears more readable for westerners on the standard map is not a good idea. I agree, but it works both ways ... where a countries primary language is

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

On 26/10/2016 20:56, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: if we go with "official" we will always be on the side of the powerful, and we will completely ignore other aspects. Take the Basque area as example, it is not long ago, that only French and Spanish (according to the side you are looking at)

Re: [Tagging] Hunting area tagging

This is an interesting thread and although I've not done much tagging of protected areas, there are millions of acres of such areas in Alaska, most of which do not yet have the level of comprehensive tagging being discussed here. I came across this article from a major Alaskan newspaper and while

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

On 26/10/2016 23:23, David Bannon wrote: Sven, your approach makes sense assuming people only look at maps of their own country. Not true. It makes sense wherever you are. Official:name allows a rendering of official names of that country & individual 'names:*=' allows rendering for

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

For names of countries, I'd suggest that they should be in whatever the local mappers to a country consider the predominant language to be. For users in other locales, presumably we have active enough English-speaking, German-speaking, and so on communities that name:en, name:de, etc. would be

Re: [Tagging] Hunting area tagging

So, Germany has hunting regulations even more complex and restrictive than those in the US (which are already complex). But in both countries, hunting is largely practiced as an aid to conservation - thinning the herd, which would otherwise undergo horribly destructive boom-and-bust cycles for

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

Sven, your approach makes sense assuming people only look at maps of their own country. Yes, I agree its respectful to people living in a non english speaking country but really does not address a much larger problem. As a native English speaker, I often turn to OSM to help me understand some

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

On 27-Oct-16 06:56 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Il giorno 26 ott 2016, alle ore 16:52, Dave F > ha scritto: Isn't that what we have atm & where much of the ambiguity stems from? I don't think so, at

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

On 26-Oct-16 07:32 PM, Sven Geggus wrote: Colin Smale wrote: Are you talking about the "default map", or the underlying data (i.e. the contents of name and name:xx tags)? Both. As I consider adding an english name in standard name tag as "tagging for the renderer" it

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

sent from a phone > Il giorno 26 ott 2016, alle ore 16:52, Dave F > ha scritto: > > Isn't that what we have atm & where much of the ambiguity stems from? I don't think so, at least not where Sven wants to change it. > > 'official' names appears the correct

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

Am 26.10.2016 um 21:56 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: .. a lot of things that are likely right But nobody was discussing removing minority and similar status language name:xx variants and further they don't normally get included in the "name" tag as is. Difficult to see why you believe

Re: [Tagging] Hunting area tagging

sent from a phone > Il giorno 26 ott 2016, alle ore 19:39, Kevin Kenny > ha scritto: > > In my part of the world, game animals are abundant enough, and public forest > lands are also abundant enough, that most hunters either hunt on their own > property or that

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

preferred? Which would nicely cover the case of India Andy was referring to. @andy btw the whole is about making easier to express local preference, not harder. Am 26.10.2016 um 14:34 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > > sent from a phone > >> Il giorno 26 ott 2016, alle ore 10:38, Sven Geggus >>

Re: [Tagging] Hunting area tagging

Forgive me if this is a duplicate. I was typing from my phone, and used the wrong 'From:' address, causing the message to drop into the moderator queue. We don't generally try to encode all the details of local law. I'm perfectly happy with saying that licensing, seasons, hours, permissible

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

On Tuesday 25 October 2016 17:02:05 Sven Geggus wrote: > Hello, > > in our localized German map style we try to render Country names in German > with local name in parenthesis. > > This works fine for a lot of countries. An example would be Thailand: > Thailand (ประเทศไทย) > > or (more readable

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

On 26/10/2016 15:12, Sven Geggus wrote: Why do you think that I would want to change the current english tag there? As I already wrote in my other Mail: All I want to get rid of is english names in countries where english is not an official or otherwise important langage and the suspicion

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

On 26/10/2016 13:34, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I'd prefer avoiding the word "official", in favor of eg default or on-the-ground etc. Isn't that what we have atm & where much of the ambiguity stems from? 'official' names appears the correct way to proceed & like others have suggested,

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

Andy Townsend wrote: > OK - another googly* for you - what do you think should be in the "name" > tag for India**? Why do you think that I would want to change the current english tag there? As I already wrote in my other Mail: All I want to get rid of is english names in

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

sent from a phone > Il giorno 26 ott 2016, alle ore 10:38, Sven Geggus > ha scritto: > > having an official langage tag as Simon suggested might be the ways to go. I'd prefer avoiding the word "official", in favor of eg default or on-the-ground etc. Cheers,

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

sent from a phone > Il giorno 26 ott 2016, alle ore 02:44, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> ha > scritto: > > Would any transcription be placed into name:la=* (la is the language code for > Latin)? name:la is in use for latin names, it should not be misused for transcriptions cheers,

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

On 26/10/2016 10:04, Sven Geggus wrote: My intention is to remove english names in the generic "name" tag in countries where english is neither an official nor otherwise important langage to the country in question. OK - another googly* for you - what do you think should be in the "name" tag

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

Hello, looks like some people did not understand what I intend to do. My intention is to remove english names in the generic "name" tag in countries where english is neither an official nor otherwise important langage to the country in question. I'm well aware of the political impact of naming in

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Would any transcription be placed into name:la=* (la is the language code > for Latin)? The place for transcriptions is name:rm_XX which XX beeing somethiong like jp or kr. All I want to achieve is to get more consistency inte the generic name tag. I have

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

Kevin Kenny wrote: > Some problems don't have good solutions. The longer I think about this, the more I come to the conclusion, that having an official langage tag as Simon suggested might be the ways to go. This way producers of maps can avoid using "name" at all.

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

Colin Smale wrote: > Are you talking about the "default map", or the underlying data (i.e. > the contents of name and name:xx tags)? Both. As I consider adding an english name in standard name tag as "tagging for the renderer" it is _not_ off-topic here. I hope we