Re: [Tagging] wikipedia links and copy + paste in tag definitions

2017-04-29 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 29 April 2017 at 22:03, Andrew Hain wrote: > What about the Wikidata links that some pages have in their infoboxes? Is > there the same objection there? No. The arguments made by Martin against linking to Wikipedia (which are themselves weak) do not stand up at

Re: [Tagging] wikipedia links and copy + paste in tag definitions

2017-04-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 29. Apr 2017, at 23:03, Andrew Hain wrote: > > What about the Wikidata links that some pages have in their infoboxes? Is > there the same objection there? essentially yes. Nobody editing wikidata will check if their edits are in line

Re: [Tagging] difference of park and garden

2017-04-29 Thread John Willis
> On Apr 30, 2017, at 5:47 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > What is the difference of a park and a garden in OSM? TL;DR: to me - - A garden is a spectacle to enjoy. - a park is where you enjoy yourself & your own activities. ~ A garden is where you enjoy

Re: [Tagging] wikipedia links and copy + paste in tag definitions

2017-04-29 Thread Andrew Hain
What about the Wikidata links that some pages have in their infoboxes? Is there the same objection there? -- Andrew From: Martin Koppenhoefer Sent: 29 April 2017 21:26:36 To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Tagging] wikipedia links

[Tagging] difference of park and garden

2017-04-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
What is the difference of a park and a garden in OSM? Is it the intensity of maintenance? The kind of plants? Their arrangement? The style? The size of the site? The type of owner (private or institutional vs. municipal vs. national)? Whether the thing is associated with a building/a group of

[Tagging] wikipedia links and copy + paste in tag definitions

2017-04-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
A lot of tag definitions sooner or later get a wikipedia link to an article (typically with the same name as the tag) attached to their beginning and/or the first paragraph(s) are copied to the definition. I'm sure people are acting in good faith when doing it, but I don't think it's helpful.

Re: [Tagging] aeroway=spaceport, aeroway=launchpad, aeroway=landingpad

2017-04-29 Thread Thilo Haug
Hello all, I agree with Martin, as the recent developments in rocket technology could also have made a change in people's point of view. There's a third area I forgot to mention : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Landing_Zone_1 As it differs from a launchpad (no tower), it should be

Re: [Tagging] aeroway=spaceport , aeroway=launchpad

2017-04-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 28. Apr 2017, at 22:50, Thilo Haug OSM wrote: > > What do you think about aeroway=spaceport ? I'm not sure aeroway is the right key, it is about aircraft and air travel, while spacecraft typically try to escape the air to get rid of the friction/air

Re: [Tagging] aeroway=spaceport

2017-04-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 28. Apr 2017, at 21:53, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > I think everyone interested in spacefaring must have turned away from > the wiki when the amenity=skyhook proposal was rejected in 2008 by > people without the slightest bit of vision: everyone of