Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk-be] Missing oneway:bicycle=no / Wiki editing

2017-05-10 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 10. May 2017, at 21:08, Thilo Haug OSM wrote: > > according to this documentation, > the tagging mailing list is the wrong platform to address this : > "If you have ideas for the wiki, you can generally just do them, by editing > the wiki! > If you

[Tagging] How would you map this?

2017-05-10 Thread m
I posted a tagging question on my diary that I hope some of you have opinions on — I’d appreciate your comments there: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mvexel/diary/41156 Sorry to point to a diary post but I think being able to use

Re: [Tagging] rail routes: how are platforms and stops associated (rail question 2)

2017-05-10 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2017-05-10 at 18:42 +0100, Bjoern Hassler wrote: > > But yes - what do you do if a rain route goes through a station, > > where the rails temporarily split into several tracks? Where is the > > stop position for that route? Clearly in that case stop_positions > > on the route cannot be

Re: [Tagging] rail routes: how are platforms and stops associated (rail question 2)

2017-05-10 Thread Bjoern Hassler
> > But yes - what do you do if a rain route goes through a station, where the > rails temporarily split into several tracks? Where is the stop position for > that route? Clearly in that case stop_positions on the route cannot be > associated with platforms in the station, and full routing is not

Re: [Tagging] rail routes: how are platforms and stops associated (rail question 2)

2017-05-10 Thread Bjoern Hassler
Hi Phil, > > The main issue with stop positions is that they cannot be associated with > a route, the position will depend on which platform the train is routed > through and the length of the train. The best OSM can do is route to the > station and then its look at, or wait for, the information

Re: [Tagging] rail routes: how are platforms and stops associated (rail question 2)

2017-05-10 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2017-05-10 at 19:15 +0200, Colin Smale wrote: > Just to add a dimension... At many stations in NL and UK at least, > trains of different lengths stop at different places along the > platform, roughly so the middle of the train is by the exit. So this > will need multiple stop positions on

Re: [Tagging] rail routes: how are platforms and stops associated (rail question 2)

2017-05-10 Thread Bjoern Hassler
Hi Colin, Ah - that may also explain why sometimes the stop is marked at the end of the platform. Having said this, I interpret the notes on the wiki for railway=stop / public_transport=stop_position to be the "logical stop". https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:route#Members says on

Re: [Tagging] rail routes: how are platforms and stops associated (rail question 2)

2017-05-10 Thread Colin Smale
Just to add a dimension... At many stations in NL and UK at least, trains of different lengths stop at different places along the platform, roughly so the middle of the train is by the exit. So this will need multiple stop positions on each platform. These are signed for the train driver. On

Re: [Tagging] rail routes and stations (rail question 1)

2017-05-10 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-05-10 18:58 GMT+02:00 Bjoern Hassler : > Do you agree that (e.g. where station buildings etc have been mapped), the > stop position should be tagged as (1), while the node tagged > railway=station should be merged into the relation for the station or stop > area? I

[Tagging] rail routes: how are platforms and stops associated (rail question 2)

2017-05-10 Thread Bjoern Hassler
Hello again, In an osm:relation:route (type=route, route=train/...), you have both platforms and stop positions. How is a particular platform associated with a stop that serves it? E.g. for public transport routing, you'd walk

[Tagging] rail routes and stations (rail question 1)

2017-05-10 Thread Bjoern Hassler
Hi all, I've got the following question for clarification. Suppose you have a r elation: osm:relation:route (type=route, route=train/...), with nodes as stops. (1) The wiki says that the node in this relation ("as stop") representing a stop

Re: [Tagging] cigarette waste disposal tile

2017-05-10 Thread Michal Fabík
Hi, I'd vote for something more general to indicate the placement, like location=pavement, location=ground or similar, so it can be used for other things that are embedded in pavement, like mosaics, inscriptions made of coloured tiles and similar artworks such as this:

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk-be] Missing oneway:bicycle=no

2017-05-10 Thread André Pirard
Hi, In this thread, I said, in agreement with others, that oneway:bicycle =no (click to open that page) is the tag to be used *to tell routing software**(GPS)* that *oneway*=yes does not apply

Re: [Tagging] How to tag monumental railcars

2017-05-10 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 10 May 2017 at 10:24, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I believe in British English it should be "waggon". "Waggon was preferred in British English until a century ago and it still appears occasionally, but it is fast becoming archaic. In this century, the shorter one is

Re: [Tagging] How to tag monumental railcars

2017-05-10 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 9 May 2017 at 21:38, Mark Bradley wrote: > Not sure if "caboose" is only an American term or not It's not a term used in British English, except to describe American vehicles. BTW, historic=wagon should be avoided, as it does not distinguish between railway

Re: [Tagging] How to tag monumental railcars

2017-05-10 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-05-10 11:15 GMT+02:00 Lorenzo "Beba" Beltrami : > I've used historic=wagon for the cargo and historic=carriage for the > passenger ones.[3] > I believe in British English it should be "waggon". Carriage alone is an ambiguous term and can mean a lot of different

Re: [Tagging] How to tag monumental railcars

2017-05-10 Thread Lorenzo "Beba" Beltrami
Here in my zone railway carriages are not rarely used to "decorate" restaurants or clubs.[1][2] 2017-05-07 15:26 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > could be historic=freight_car or railway_carriage or waggon etc. > I've used historic=wagon for the cargo and