Re: [Tagging] dispersed settlements / scattered settlements

2017-06-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 17. Jun 2017, at 00:20, > wrote: > > A place=* does not just consist of a small built up area with it’s church, > shop and community centre, it usually includes a certain amount of greenbelt > and rural area

Re: [Tagging] dispersed settlements / scattered settlements

2017-06-16 Thread ralph.aytoun
Sent from Mail for Windows 10 I believe that too many people are confusing the landuse=residential with the boundary=* tags. There should not be any area names, hamlet names, community names attached to a landuse tag. The landuse tag is to indicate the use of the land (residential,

Re: [Tagging] dispersed settlements / scattered settlements

2017-06-16 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
2017-06-16 19:52 GMT+01:00 Dudley Ibbett : > I’m slightly confused by this discussion. I live in a “hamlet” which is > within a “dispersed settlement”. “Dispersed settlement” describes the > pattern of isolated dwellings, farmyards, hamlets, villages etc. on a > much

Re: [Tagging] dispersed settlements / scattered settlements

2017-06-16 Thread Dudley Ibbett
I’m slightly confused by this discussion. I live in a “hamlet” which is within a “dispersed settlement”. “Dispersed settlement” describes the pattern of isolated dwellings, farmyards, hamlets, villages etc. on a much larger scale. We don’t really seem to have tags that currently describe

Re: [Tagging] fire hydrants

2017-06-16 Thread Viking
> for flow_capacity, should m3/h be preferred instead of lpm ? Normally, the best unit for fire purposes is lpm (or gpm), because you can easily determine how many minutes it takes to refill e.g. a 4500 litres fire engine. Also fire pumps specs are in lpm or gpm. > fire_hydrant:coupling_type

Re: [Tagging] dispersed settlements / scattered settlements

2017-06-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-06-16 15:50 GMT+02:00 Jerry Clough - OSM : > In summary: we have an excellent source of mapped dispersed settlements in > Europe; absence of any specific tags for such places has only slightly > impeded mapping (although perhaps a rigorous insistence on locality having

Re: [Tagging] dispersed settlements / scattered settlements

2017-06-16 Thread Jerry Clough - OSM
We have plenty of examples of dispersed/scattered settlement patterns which have been mapped without having to worry about lack of tags: more or less the entire Celtic fringe of NW Europe (Brittany, Cornwall, Wales, Ireland, Scottish Highlands) shows this settlement pattern. The nucleated towns

Re: [Tagging] dispersed settlements / scattered settlements

2017-06-16 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
Also note that, at least here in Spain, in a dispersed settlement the 'streets' usually have no name and the postal address of the building is given by the name of the settlement and a housenumber. So this is a valid postal address "Lugar Anocheza, 10" where "Lugar" means place.

Re: [Tagging] fire hydrants

2017-06-16 Thread Viking
I've updated the page [1] with the new tags that we are discussing in this list. Please check the page and update it (for example with valid coupling_type values). The aim is to have all the new tags in one page. And when we will be ready, insert them in the official fire hydrant page. We could

Re: [Tagging] dispersed settlements / scattered settlements

2017-06-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 16. Jun 2017, at 09:42, Javier Sánchez Portero > wrote: > > Any of the two proposals, a new tag or change place=locality, will be fine. I'm strongly opposing changing locality to be used for settlements as well. Cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] dispersed settlements / scattered settlements

2017-06-16 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
Hello I would like to say that here, in Spain, we are in the same case. The goverment office for population census give in [1] for each unit (settlement) two values refering to the nucleus population and to the dispersed population. Very frequently, there are units with only dispersed population