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> On 17. Jun 2017, at 00:20,
> A place=* does not just consist of a small built up area with it’s church,
> shop and community centre, it usually includes a certain amount of greenbelt
> and rural area
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I believe that too many people are confusing the landuse=residential with the
boundary=* tags. There should not be any area names, hamlet names, community
names attached to a landuse tag. The landuse tag is to indicate the use of the
2017-06-16 19:52 GMT+01:00 Dudley Ibbett :
> I’m slightly confused by this discussion. I live in a “hamlet” which is
> within a “dispersed settlement”. “Dispersed settlement” describes the
> pattern of isolated dwellings, farmyards, hamlets, villages etc. on a
I’m slightly confused by this discussion. I live in a “hamlet” which is within
a “dispersed settlement”. “Dispersed settlement” describes the pattern of
isolated dwellings, farmyards, hamlets, villages etc. on a much larger scale.
We don’t really seem to have tags that currently describe
> for flow_capacity, should m3/h be preferred instead of lpm ?
Normally, the best unit for fire purposes is lpm (or gpm), because you can
easily determine how many minutes it takes to refill e.g. a 4500 litres fire
engine. Also fire pumps specs are in lpm or gpm.
2017-06-16 15:50 GMT+02:00 Jerry Clough - OSM :
> In summary: we have an excellent source of mapped dispersed settlements in
> Europe; absence of any specific tags for such places has only slightly
> impeded mapping (although perhaps a rigorous insistence on locality having
We have plenty of examples of dispersed/scattered settlement patterns which
have been mapped without having to worry about lack of tags: more or less the
entire Celtic fringe of NW Europe (Brittany, Cornwall, Wales, Ireland, Scottish
Highlands) shows this settlement pattern. The nucleated towns
Also note that, at least here in Spain, in a dispersed settlement the
'streets' usually have no name and the postal address of the building is
given by the name of the settlement and a housenumber. So this is a valid
postal address "Lugar Anocheza, 10" where "Lugar" means place.
I've updated the page  with the new tags that we are discussing in this
list. Please check the page and update it (for example with valid coupling_type
The aim is to have all the new tags in one page. And when we will be ready,
insert them in the official fire hydrant page.
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> On 16. Jun 2017, at 09:42, Javier Sánchez Portero
> Any of the two proposals, a new tag or change place=locality, will be fine.
I'm strongly opposing changing locality to be used for settlements as well.
I would like to say that here, in Spain, we are in the same case. The
goverment office for population census give in  for each unit
(settlement) two values refering to the nucleus population and to the
dispersed population. Very frequently, there are units with only dispersed
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