[Tagging] Power Tower Landuse = ?

[John Willis]

Which landuse is appropriate for power towers? 

http://www.tepco.co.jp/pg/electricity-supply/operation/images/img_substation_04.jpg
 


here is a picture of some of the towers I am talking about. In this case, most 
are in or adjacent to a substation.The giant red-white towers in the picture 
are common in my area, and run across our region. they use a large 25mx25m 
piece of land for their base. I am talking about these towers when they are by 
themselves, in farmland or residential areas. 

The giant power towers have a mappable (usually fenced) landuse - the tower 
bases are usually near some kind of access road, and the land for towers is as 
large as a housing plot. Farmers do not farm under the base, even if there 
isn’t a fence, making it a separate landuse from whatever is around it. 

Somewhat related, micromapped solar panel installations:  the panels themselves 
are the power generators, but it seems wrong to tag the landuse of a field of 
solar panels as a “power plant” - as solar panels (and wind farms) are very 
distributed and could be mixed land use, and are passive - they don’t seem to 
be “power stations” in the way that coal, oil, nuclear, or even solar-thermal 
stations are), and although I have been usng landuse=industrial, it seems to 
not fit really well. Perhaps that is an incorrect choice, but I don’t know what 
to use. 

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/504120713 

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/503938829 

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/504121156 


Similar to landuse=highway and landuse=railway, there are landuse values for 
the areas used by part of a system -  but not an important or active part of 
the system, like the train tracks between stations. 

Is there a landuse=power? there are currently 9 landuse=power uses in OSM. the 
one in Japan is surely a mis-tag. But maybe landuse=power as a catch-all for 
land used by passive generation and transmission is a good idea. 

advice?

Javbw

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Re: [Tagging] Services provided by a travel agency

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

I won't disagree with you about shop=tourism as no, I've never heard of a
tourism shop either (& we live in a tourist-oriented area)!

Maybe it's another term that doesn't translate internationally, but here in
Australia at least, "travel agencies" don't handle day-to-day tourist
matters like boat rides, walking tours etc either. Travel agencies are
where you sit down with a travel agent a few months prior to leaving on
your trip, to plan your itinerary, work out which flights you need to catch
& book them, book your cabin on a cruise ship etc.

We do have tourism information centres, where they hold stocks of brochures
etc telling tourists what attractions there are in the area, what the
opening hours of the local museum are & so on, but, once again, they don't
usually book ferry rides, tours & so on - that's left up to the tourist to
do either online or by phone?

I don't know what you would call the type of "shop" that Volker originally
described, but maybe tourism=information woud cover it?

Thanks

Graeme


On 30 June 2017 at 01:09, Martin Koppenhoefer 
wrote:

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> sent from a phone
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> On 28. Jun 2017, at 23:46, Graeme Fitzpatrick 
> wrote:
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> There is a tag for bicycle rental: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:
> amenity%3Dbicycle_rental.
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>
>
> +1, although this will probably not lead to a compatibile tagging scheme,
> because I'd expect many of the things in the amenity key .
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>
>
>
> Maybe just shop=tourism together with that?
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>
> don't like this tag, IMHO too generic, not well distinguishable from
> travel agencies, no clear meaning (ever heard someone saying: I'm going to
> the tourist shop? What would you think if you heard this? I would likely
> ask 'where?'). It isn't really a category (of what they sell) rather than a
> category for whom it is (i.e. it can be used to disqualify a shop as
> "mostly for tourists " (locals who know the situation won't go there), but
> not to qualify the kind of things they offer).
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
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Re: [Tagging] Services provided by a travel agency

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

> On 28. Jun 2017, at 23:46, Graeme Fitzpatrick  wrote:
> 
> There is a tag for bicycle rental: 
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbicycle_rental.


+1, although this will probably not lead to a compatibile tagging scheme, 
because I'd expect many of the things in the amenity key .



> 
> Maybe just shop=tourism together with that?


don't like this tag, IMHO too generic, not well distinguishable from travel 
agencies, no clear meaning (ever heard someone saying: I'm going to the tourist 
shop? What would you think if you heard this? I would likely ask 'where?'). It 
isn't really a category (of what they sell) rather than a category for whom it 
is (i.e. it can be used to disqualify a shop as "mostly for tourists " (locals 
who know the situation won't go there), but not to qualify the kind of things 
they offer).

Cheers,
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