Re: [Tagging] farm schools?

2017-09-04 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 04.09.2017 22:01, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: On 4. Sep 2017, at 21:45, José G Moya Y. wrote: In Spanish it is farm_school. in italian it's "fattoria didattica" (didactic farm), in German there are different terms in use, e.g. Jugendfarm, Kinderbauernhof. Hm, in Berlin

Re: [Tagging] Fire hydrants vs suction_point

2017-09-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 4. Sep 2017, at 22:50, François Lacombe wrote: > > Is this ok or not ? seems reasonable, I think I misunderstood your previous email. As long as there is a device to plug your equipment it's probably ok to name it hydrant, just a pond from

Re: [Tagging] Fire hydrants vs suction_point

2017-09-04 Thread François Lacombe
Hi Martin 2017-09-04 17:02 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > >> [0] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:diameter >> > > > unfortunately this is not yet defined unambiguously. I guess it is about > the inner diameter of something? Or sometimes it is about the inner >

Re: [Tagging] farm schools?

2017-09-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 4. Sep 2017, at 21:45, José G Moya Y. wrote: > > In Spanish it is farm_school. in italian it's "fattoria didattica" (didactic farm), in German there are different terms in use, e.g. Jugendfarm, Kinderbauernhof. cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] Fire hydrants vs suction_point

2017-09-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone On 4. Sep 2017, at 17:29, François Lacombe wrote: >> Anyway fire_hydrant:type=pond should be deprecated in favour of >> water_source=pond. +1, or something similar. We should only tag hydrants as hydrants. A hydrant type should describe the

Re: [Tagging] farm schools?

2017-09-04 Thread José G Moya Y .
Hi! In Spanish it is farm_school. Don't know about the tag. Jose G Moya Y. El 4/9/2017 17:41, "Martin Koppenhoefer" escribió: > I wonder how you call a farm which is open to groups of children for > visiting and helping with the farm work (a place where they can learn

Re: [Tagging] shop sub tag sell or sale

2017-09-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 4. Sep 2017, at 20:54, Thilo Haug wrote: > > In case of a shop=garden_centre > the (additonal) values might be > robot:sales=yes > robot:type=lawn_mower a lawn mower robot as sales clerk in a garden centre, sounds interesting ;-) Cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] shop sub tag sell or sale

2017-09-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 4. Sep 2017, at 20:54, Thilo Haug wrote: > > I thought *:sales= to be used with yes/no/used, > combined with > type=* (variants of the item which is sold) > and > parts=yes/no (in some cases additionally "custom") For shops selling used goods there is

Re: [Tagging] shop=boutique WAS Re: Tagging Digest, Vol 96, Issue 3

2017-09-04 Thread Thilo Haug
Hi all, I think in such a case it would be seen as several shops (like shops within a mall). It's not totally unlikely that the same proprietor does something like this, but I think it would be seldom enough to accept there would need to be several points (shops) within one building in this

Re: [Tagging] shop sub tag sell or sale

2017-09-04 Thread Thilo Haug
Hi all, I think this is not the best example, as VW and BMW would rather be brand=* I thought *:sales= to be used with yes/no/used, combined with type=* (variants of the item which is sold) and parts=yes/no (in some cases additionally "custom") The yes/no tags are easier to handle (for mappers)

Re: [Tagging] Fire hydrants vs suction_point

2017-09-04 Thread François Lacombe
Hi, 2017-09-04 10:49 GMT+02:00 marc marc : > > I think we should find a solution also for 10% of hydrants that don't > have a type/pressure/water_source, or we will never have a definitive > solution. > > Considering that in some countries pressurized hydrants are not

Re: [Tagging] Tagging data where position is not yet known

2017-09-04 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 03.09.2017 o 23:35, ralph.ayt...@ntlworld.com pisze: I want to know how you feel about adding the market and water_pump data that does not yet exist on the map. In Africa the existence of a market and/or a water_pump is not only important information for the locals, it is important

Re: [Tagging] Fire hydrants vs suction_point

2017-09-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-09-01 23:08 GMT+02:00 Viking : > If we want to remove fire_hydrant: namespace, what's about transform > fire_hydrant:diameter=# in diameter=# ? It is already documented its use > with hydrants: [0] > And about fire_hydrant:style=*, fire_hydrant:count=# and >

Re: [Tagging] shop sub tag sell or sale

2017-09-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
what about "vending"? It's established and says exactly this: what is available through purchase at a feature. Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] shop sub tag sell or sale

2017-09-04 Thread Philip Barnes
Definitely sells, sale do not make sense (bad English) and as you say is easily confused. 'The pub sells pickled eggs' makes sense whereas 'The pub sale(s) pickled eggs' is just wrong. Phil (trigpoint) On 4 September 2017 08:38:08 BST, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: >To put this out in

[Tagging] farm schools?

2017-09-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
I wonder how you call a farm which is open to groups of children for visiting and helping with the farm work (a place where they can learn about rural life, food production etc.). Might be either school classes or other groups (or maybe individual kids) visiting. Is "farm_school" a suitable

Re: [Tagging] shop=boutique WAS Re: Tagging Digest, Vol 96, Issue 3

2017-09-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 4. Sep 2017, at 05:42, Marc Gemis wrote: > > there is a problem if you want to indicate that it only sells denims > for men, sports clothes for children and fashion for women. I know > this is a hypothetical example, but the proposal cannot express

Re: [Tagging] shop=boutique WAS Re: Tagging Digest, Vol 96, Issue 3

2017-09-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 3. Sep 2017, at 19:01, Thilo Haug wrote: > > How would you then avoid "multivalues" ? > > For example for brand=* > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:brand > > If a shop sells several brands (Honda;Yamaha;Suzuki;BMW;KTM), > how would you tag this ?

Re: [Tagging] Tagging data where position is not yet known

2017-09-04 Thread Simon Poole
Not quie sure why this is on tagging, but anyway: a clear yes to adding the data. Add a FIXME tag stating that it is a rough, village level position for late surveyors and consumers. Naturally you might simply be able to sit down with the contributors and squint at aerial imagery to locate the

Re: [Tagging] Fire hydrants vs suction_point

2017-09-04 Thread marc marc
Le 01. 09. 17 à 00:54, Viking a écrit : > In this sense flow_rate is more appropriate. ok > I think we should find a solution also for 10% of hydrants that don't have a > type/pressure/water_source, or we will never have a definitive solution. > Considering that in some countries pressurized

Re: [Tagging] Tagging data where position is not yet known

2017-09-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 3. Sep 2017, at 23:35, > wrote: > > They have also supplied other important data for the community such as the > existence of a market and which days it is open, also the existence of a > water pump.

Re: [Tagging] Tagging data where position is not yet known

2017-09-04 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 22:35:04 +0100 wrote: > [..] > I want to know how you feel about adding the market and water_pump > data that does not yet exist on the map. In Africa the existence of a > market and/or a water_pump is not only important information for the > locals,

Re: [Tagging] Tagging data where position is not yet known

2017-09-04 Thread marc marc
Le 03. 09. 17 à 23:35, ralph.ayt...@ntlworld.com a écrit : > I want to know how you feel about adding the market and water_pump > data that does not yet exist on the map. > I wish to add this data > to the map near the name of the community with a fixme stating that > the existence has been

[Tagging] shop sub tag sell or sale

2017-09-04 Thread Warin
To put this out in the open - not to be confused with if it should be done, but rather what is better. So a new subject to attract attention and keep it only on what is better - 'Sale' or 'Sells'. The suggestions are to use a sub tag under shops that detail what is available for purchase,

Re: [Tagging] Clothes subtags (was "Tagging Digest, Vol 96, Issue 3" and before that "shop=fashion")

2017-09-04 Thread José G Moya Y .
Hi! I'm not an English native speaker, but I think that you should not use a verb tense in third person in order to mantain formal coherence. Personally, my two pence go to "retail", since it is a noun, though I understand that "retail" is a special type of commercial activity. But, if you have

Re: [Tagging] shop=boutique WAS Re: Tagging Digest, Vol 96, Issue 3

2017-09-04 Thread Marc Gemis
On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 7:01 PM, Thilo Haug wrote: > How would you then avoid "multivalues" ? > > For example for brand=* > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:brand > > If a shop sells several brands (Honda;Yamaha;Suzuki;BMW;KTM), > how would you tag this ? >

Re: [Tagging] Tagging data where position is not yet known

2017-09-04 Thread Warin
On 04-Sep-17 07:35 AM, ralph.ayt...@ntlworld.com wrote: I want to know how you feel about adding the market and water_pump data that does not yet exist on the map. In Africa the existence of a market and/or a water_pump is not only important information for the locals, it is important