Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

2017-09-08 Thread Blake Girardot
On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 10:33 PM, Nick Hocking wrote: > Eric wrote > > " This is an open database and we all "garden" the data to make sure that > the > information is correct." > > I think that information critical to safety needs a higher level of > verification than

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

2017-09-08 Thread Nick Hocking
Eric wrote " This is an open database and we all "garden" the data to make sure that the information is correct." I think that information critical to safety needs a higher level of verification than just peer review. So the argument comes down to what is critical information. I normal times,

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

2017-09-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 9. Sep 2017, at 01:15, Greg Troxel wrote: > > I see 1 as squarely what "social_facility=shelter" should mean. > > 2 I think "emergency=shelter" is good, and it's really not at all the > same thing as social_facility=shelter. > > 3 I would call

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

2017-09-08 Thread Greg Troxel
Eric Christensen writes: > On 09/07/2017 11:24 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> do you recall why emergency:social_facility=shelter was chosen as a tag, >> rather than a simple "emergency=shelter"? Because social_facility >> shelter in osm is used with a different

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-08 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/8/17 9:34 AM, Richard Welty wrote: > On 9/8/17 7:08 AM, ael wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 03:31:37PM -0600, Mike Thompson wrote: >>> User Raymo853 and I are having a friendly discussion on changeset >>> 50470413[1]. He has been adding the elevation of mountain peaks (in feet) >>> to the

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-08 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 4:54 AM, Colin Smale wrote: > Does anyone have any idea whether the elevations, be they in feet or metres, > are all respecting the wiki definition of being the height above MSL > according to EGM96 (not sure what that would mean in landlocked areas)

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-08 Thread John F. Eldredge
Also, I doubt anyone in ordinary life refers to a mountain as "Mount So-and-So 2000 meters", rather than simply "Mount So-and-So". On September 8, 2017 8:36:52 AM Richard Welty wrote: On 9/8/17 7:08 AM, ael wrote: On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 03:31:37PM -0600, Mike

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-08 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/8/17 7:08 AM, ael wrote: > On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 03:31:37PM -0600, Mike Thompson wrote: >> User Raymo853 and I are having a friendly discussion on changeset >> 50470413[1]. He has been adding the elevation of mountain peaks (in feet) >> to the name tag. For example, he changed "Crown Point"

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Evacuation Route

2017-09-08 Thread Eric Christensen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/07/2017 10:53 PM, Nick Hocking wrote: > Will this proposal contain alternate evacuation routes, and an > indication by whom and when they would be activated? If the state/local authorities have designated a route as an evacuation route then I

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Evacuation Route

2017-09-08 Thread Eric Christensen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/08/2017 05:05 AM, Lukas Sommer wrote: > As key:evacuation_route is currently almost exclusively used on > relations anyway, it might make more sense to deprecate this tag and > instead define a new value for route=* on type=route relations

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

2017-09-08 Thread Eric Christensen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/07/2017 11:24 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > do you recall why emergency:social_facility=shelter was chosen as a tag, > rather than a simple "emergency=shelter"? Because social_facility > shelter in osm is used with a different meaning, so

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

2017-09-08 Thread Eric Christensen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/07/2017 11:12 PM, Nick Hocking wrote: > Eric wrote "Why would you delete data that is still valid and > useful?" > > > My concern is that if these are permanent features, then people > will say "ooh - they'll be the same as last time" and

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

2017-09-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-09-08 0:26 GMT+02:00 tomoya muramoto : > >> >> (1) "emergency=shelter" is not defined in wiki > > (2) wiki says social_facility=shelter can be applied to "Emergency Shelter" > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:social_facility%3Dshelter > We wanted to show the

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

2017-09-08 Thread Andrew Hain
Is there a case for a general mapping scheme for information that ceases to be valid on a date and could be automatically removed afterwards? -- Andrew From: Nick Hocking Sent: 08 September 2017 04:12:35 To: tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-08 Thread ael
On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 03:31:37PM -0600, Mike Thompson wrote: > User Raymo853 and I are having a friendly discussion on changeset > 50470413[1]. He has been adding the elevation of mountain peaks (in feet) > to the name tag. For example, he changed "Crown Point" to "Crown Point > 11,463 ft."[2]

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-08 Thread marc marc
Le 08. 09. 17 à 11:14, Janko Mihelić a écrit : > 20155.9894568543 ft your unreasonable example has nothing to do with elevation. in any tag, nothing prevents a tool from being rational in the values it saves or displays. I do not know what is the best possible accuracy but an altitude measurement

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-08 Thread Janko Mihelić
Elevation doesn't go in "name" tag, that's quite obvious. But I think elevations in feet shouldn't be discouraged. Maybe sometimes you have iconic elevations of mountains in feet everybody knows and learns in school, and they want to see that number exactly on a map, and not some fraction after

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-08 Thread Andy Townsend
On 08/09/2017 09:54, Colin Smale wrote: Does anyone have any idea whether the elevations, be they in feet or metres, are all respecting the wiki definition of being the height above MSL according to EGM96 (not sure what that would mean in landlocked areas) and NOT WGS84 or (strictly

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Evacuation Route

2017-09-08 Thread Lukas Sommer
As key:evacuation_route is currently almost exclusively used on relations anyway, it might make more sense to deprecate this tag and instead define a new value for route=* on type=route relations (and than add all the refinements that you propose)… -- Lukas Sommer

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-08 Thread Lukas Sommer
The wiki page for https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ele says it has to be in meters, not in feets. -- Lukas Sommer ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-08 Thread Colin Smale
Does anyone have any idea whether the elevations, be they in feet or metres, are all respecting the wiki definition of being the height above MSL according to EGM96 (not sure what that would mean in landlocked areas) and NOT WGS84 or (strictly speaking) relative to local MSL? The wiki page for

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-08 Thread Andrew Hain
Or, indeed, you could put a conversion in the editor between the mapper typing a figure in and the elevation being saved to the database. -- Andrew From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> Sent: 08 September 2017 02:59:39 To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re:

Re: [Tagging] Any tag for tiny, pittoresque, tool store houses?

2017-09-08 Thread marc marc
Le 08. 09. 17 à 08:30, José G Moya Y. a écrit : > In some parts of Spain, there are tiny igloo-like houses, smaller > than a person, traditionally used to store tools near the fields. building=shed building:architecture=whatyouthink :) ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-08 Thread marc marc
Le 07. 09. 17 à 23:31, Mike Thompson a écrit : > he changed "Crown Point" to "Crown Point 11,463 ft. > it does say "Name is the name only"[3]. as the wiki says: the name is only the name. "Crown Point 11,463 ft" is not a name. Elevation goes in the "ele" tag. in meters if it's only a number. add

[Tagging] Any tag for tiny, pittoresque, tool store houses?

2017-09-08 Thread José G Moya Y .
Hi! In some parts of Spain, there are tiny igloo-like houses, smaller than a person, traditionally used to store tools near the fields. They are called "guardaviñas" ("vineyard guards") and resemble, by shape and purpose, the italian "trulli" of Puglia, but they are smaller. I was wondering if