Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Street_furniture

2017-10-17 Thread Jo
Hi José, I see you mention Google imagery. Please don't jeopardize the project by using that. We have permission to use Bing, Mapbox, DigitalGlobe, Esri. They are all accessible in a convenient way in JOSM. For horizontal streetview imagery we have Mapillary and OpenStreetCam. Jo 2017-10-18 0:28

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Street_furniture

2017-10-17 Thread Marc Gemis
Please explain why this is simpler. I don't understand Your change would require all editors and data consumers to be updated. That all current mappers have to change their current knowledge of how a bench, street lamp etc. are mapped. If you have problems to remember what the main key is, you mi

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Street_furniture

2017-10-17 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 18.10.2017 o 01:59, Warin pisze: On 18. Oct 2017, at 01:26, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: IMHO not, as they’re underground, not on the street. layer=-1 "The layer=* tag is one of several methods used to describe vertical relationships between crossing or overlapping features." This

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Street_furniture

2017-10-17 Thread Warin
On 18-Oct-17 10:37 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 18. Oct 2017, at 01:26, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Would these also be classified as "street cabinets"? IMHO not, as they’re underground, not on the street. layer=-1 ___

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Street_furniture

2017-10-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 18. Oct 2017, at 01:26, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Would these also be classified as "street cabinets"? IMHO not, as they’re underground, not on the street. cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap

[Tagging] street furniture, was Re: (no subject)

2017-10-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 17. Oct 2017, at 23:36, hvdb wrote: > > The Tiergarten park in Berlin has a collection of antique streetlamps from > around the world, both gas and electric. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_furniture it’s in osm as a museum: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/25

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Street_furniture

2017-10-17 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
> El 17/10/2017 23:44, "François Lacombe" > escribió: > > Hi, > > Let's not forget street cabinets :) > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dstreet_cabinet > > As Warin said, all those things (including cabinets) may not always be > along streets. > "street" term may be understood as

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Fire Hydrant Extensions)

2017-10-17 Thread Viking
I've tried to summarize post-vote conclusions here: Fire Hydrant Extensions (part 2) [1] Now, we can use it as it is and apply these changes to hydrant wiki page, or change it, or vote it again. Then we can go on and discuss/vote Fire Hydrant Extensions (part 3) [2]. Finally, if we want, we can c

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Street_furniture

2017-10-17 Thread José G Moya Y .
Hi! I'm just a novice, but after two months following this list I understand that: a) Tags are grouped by function. Some street forniture is just for people to enjoy them, some needs to be located by GPS navigators (traffic lights, barriers such as bollards) or emergency services (fire hydrants).

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Street_furniture

2017-10-17 Thread François Lacombe
Hi, Let's not forget street cabinets :) https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dstreet_cabinet As Warin said, all those things (including cabinets) may not always be along streets. "street" term may be understood as "outdoor". Would you create a key to move all the list from ma_made/m

[Tagging] (no subject)

2017-10-17 Thread hvdb
The Tiergarten park in Berlin has a collection of antique streetlamps from around the world, both gas and electric. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_furniture http://www.secretcitytravel.com/berlin-ma

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Street_furniture

2017-10-17 Thread Warin
Some of these things are not all, necessarily, along side streets - e.g. a bench in a park. On 18-Oct-17 07:31 AM, hvdb wrote: my proposal = to make things simplier ; if there would be a key = street_furniture , all those 'things' mentioned (benches / fire hydrants / plant_contain

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Street_furniture

2017-10-17 Thread hvdb
my proposal = to make things simplier ; if there would be a key = street_furniture , all those 'things' mentioned (benches / fire hydrants / plant_containers / street_poles / streetlamps / bollards / traffic_signs / traffic_lights / etc. etc.) could then arranged in 1 key . And if 'necessary', one

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Street_furniture

2017-10-17 Thread Yves
All your examples of street furnitures are already mapped in OSM. What is your proposal, exactly? Yves Le 17 octobre 2017 20:27:25 GMT+02:00, hvdb a écrit : >*Street furniture* is a collective term (used in the United Kingdom >[1] >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Street_furniture

2017-10-17 Thread Paul Desgranges
Hello, uite some street furnitures are listed in support key, to indicate what supports a certain feature (whatever the feature is : clock, advertising, .. ) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:support

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Street_furniture

2017-10-17 Thread hvdb
*Street furniture* is a collective term (used in the United Kingdom [1] , Australia[2] and Canada

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Rivers Classification

2017-10-17 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Tuesday 17 October 2017, Kevin Kenny wrote: > > I concede that 'relative road importance' strains that definition. > But I fail to see where any conceivable renderer would be able to get > the information if we don't tag it. [...] The problem you are probably referring to here is that OSM-Carto

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Rivers Classification

2017-10-17 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Oct 17, 2017 4:53 AM, "Christoph Hormann" wrote: On Tuesday 17 October 2017, Kevin Kenny wrote: > It's impossible to base a rendering decision on something that isn't > represented by any tag. That is not true, you can produce a lot of information through analysis of the data and by connectin

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Rivers Classification

2017-10-17 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Tuesday 17 October 2017, Kevin Kenny wrote: > It's impossible to base a rendering decision on something that isn't > represented by any tag. That is not true, you can produce a lot of information through analysis of the data and by connecting it to data outside of OSM (which is usually outsid

Re: [Tagging] airstrip vs runway

2017-10-17 Thread Andrew Davidson
On 17/10/17 15:55, Warin wrote: It seams in New Zealand that these were originally tagged as aerodromes but they were changed to airstrip to stop the rendering of so many aerodromes at low zoom levels. If you were looking for textbook examples of tagging for the renderer this would be an id