[Tagging] Planned rendering changes of protected areas

2017-12-02 Thread Daniel Koć
I wrote the summary of the thread I started on Talk list regarding protected areas and nature reserves: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/kocio/diary/42861 It's sometimes hard to tell which list is proper, because both tagging and rendering are discussed, so I guess such summary might be

Re: [Tagging] building=maisonette(s)

2017-12-02 Thread André Pirard
On 2017-12-02 23:21, Warin wrote: > On 03-Dec-17 09:09 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >> On 3 December 2017 at 04:58, marc marc > > wrote: >> >> >> In french, a "maisonette" is a small detached house or a tiny >> house or a >>

Re: [Tagging] Additional sub tags for survey mark

2017-12-02 Thread Greg Troxel
Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> writes: > Triangulation (or 'trig point') that are visible over quite some > distance (say over 2 km), used to triangulate a position without > having to go to the mark. Usually a pole standing on top of a > rise/hill. > > Benchmarks that are visible on the surface

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating of leisure=common and leisure=village_green

2017-12-02 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 03.12.2017 o 00:15, Adam Snape pisze:  Yes, OSM is a global database, but that is not to say that country-specific feaures ought not to be explicitly tagged. OSm is - I think - a great means of recording such diversity. I don't particularly see a problem with tags being used to mean

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating of leisure=common and leisure=village_green

2017-12-02 Thread Warin
On 03-Dec-17 09:55 AM, Daniel Koć wrote: W dniu 02.12.2017 o 23:12, Warin pisze: To me, "urban_green" is not a land use. I don't see "urban_green" as a good value. What use is it put to? Park, recreation, something else? The use of "green" implies a land cover .. not a good thing in a land

Re: [Tagging] building=maisonette(s)

2017-12-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 2. Dec 2017, at 23:21, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > 3) self contained flat over 2 floors that’s the meaning in German as well cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating of leisure=common and leisure=village_green

2017-12-02 Thread Adam Snape
The use of these tags within the UK seems to be relatively unproblematic because they are UK terms that people in the UK understand and recognise as distinct from things like parks, gardens and recreation grounds. These tags have taken on new meanings in other countries which some view as

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating of leisure=common and leisure=village_green

2017-12-02 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 02.12.2017 o 23:12, Warin pisze: To me, "urban_green" is not a land use. I don't see "urban_green" as a good value. What use is it put to? Park, recreation, something else? The use of "green" implies a land cover .. not a good thing in a land use key. I guess it's used in a city

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating of leisure=common and leisure=village_green

2017-12-02 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 02.12.2017 o 22:05, Pierre Béland pisze: OSM-Carto is to often thought for Western Europe and only the developpers that contribute to the github project make decisions. I would not base the Tagging decisions on what the various styles are rendering. It's a systematic bias we try to

Re: [Tagging] building=maisonette(s)

2017-12-02 Thread Warin
On 03-Dec-17 09:09 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On 3 December 2017 at 04:58, marc marc > wrote: In french, a "maisonette" is a small detached house or a tiny house or a shed. Did this word also exist in english

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating of leisure=common and leisure=village_green

2017-12-02 Thread Warin
On 03-Dec-17 08:12 AM, Daniel Koć wrote: W dniu 02.12.2017 o 21:40, Warin pisze: Mixed vegetation or vegetation of any type is a landcover, not a landuse. The use of landcover and landuse tags would help mappers and consumers separate these features correctly. So what do you think about:

Re: [Tagging] building=maisonette(s)

2017-12-02 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On 3 December 2017 at 04:58, marc marc wrote: > > In french, a "maisonette" is a small detached house or a tiny house or a > shed. > Did this word also exist in english > Have heard the term in Australia but not for many years. These days, it's apparently been

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating of leisure=common and leisure=village_green

2017-12-02 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 02.12.2017 o 21:40, Warin pisze: Mixed vegetation or vegetation of any type is a landcover, not a landuse. The use of landcover and landuse tags would help mappers and consumers separate these features correctly. So what do you think about: Function tag (which might represent a lot

[Tagging] Deprecating of leisure=common and leisure=village_green

2017-12-02 Thread Pierre Béland
There were a few answers providing more infos about the reality of african countries. But too many comments not well documented.  OSM-Carto is to often thought for Western Europe and only the developpers that contribute to the github project make decisions. I would not base the Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating of leisure=common and leisure=village_green

2017-12-02 Thread Warin
On 02-Dec-17 11:59 PM, Daniel Koć wrote: W dniu 02.12.2017 o 12:19, Jo pisze: a far better tag would have been: landuse=GreenAndHardToClassify_HelicoptersMightLandHere I guess landuse/landcover=urban_green would be much closer to reality for mixed vegetation - in fact, mixed_vegetation

Re: [Tagging] building=maisonette(s)

2017-12-02 Thread André Pirard
On 2017-12-02 19:58, marc marc wrote: Hello, https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/building=maisonette https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/building=maisonettes Nearly all in England. In french, a "maisonette" is a small detached house or a tiny house or a shed.

[Tagging] building=maisonette(s)

2017-12-02 Thread marc marc
Hello, https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/building=maisonette https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/building=maisonettes Nearly all in England. In french, a "maisonette" is a small detached house or a tiny house or a shed. Did this word also exist in english or thoses tags are a bad use of

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating of leisure=common and leisure=village_green

2017-12-02 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 02.12.2017 o 12:19, Jo pisze: a far better tag would have been: landuse=GreenAndHardToClassify_HelicoptersMightLandHere I guess landuse/landcover=urban_green would be much closer to reality for mixed vegetation - in fact, mixed_vegetation sounds sane too. Helicopters can land on many

[Tagging] Proposed Features - RFC - Penstock waterways

2017-12-02 Thread François Lacombe
Hi all, This proposal is set for RFC https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hydropower_water_supplies It introduces waterway=penstock, pipeline=surge_tank and formalize a bit the usage of waterway=drain to map hydropower water supplies. waterway=penstock would be useful to map

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating of leisure=common and leisure=village_green

2017-12-02 Thread Jo
a far better tag would have been: landuse=GreenAndHardToClassify_HelicoptersMightLandHere 2017-12-02 11:59 GMT+01:00 Daniel Koć : > W dniu 02.12.2017 o 10:39, Marc Zoutendijk pisze: > > Let’s keep it simple and stick with one tag (village_green), keep the way > is is rendered and

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating of leisure=common and leisure=village_green

2017-12-02 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 02.12.2017 o 10:39, Marc Zoutendijk pisze: Let’s keep it simple and stick with one tag (village_green), keep the way is is rendered and explain the different uses in the wiki. It sounds rather strange for me and this is not really simple. Please also note that I’m the one that added

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating of leisure=common and leisure=village_green

2017-12-02 Thread Marc Zoutendijk
Hello all, > From: Marc Gemis > > > There was a long discussion on the Dutch forum awhile back [1] > I tried to convince them not to use landuse=village_green for hedges, > plants, flowers etc. in town centers. I believe the consensus was they >