Re: [Tagging] Culverts and Fords

2018-03-02 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mar 2, 2018 08:42, "Vao Matua" wrote: Thank you Ralph, I understand your perspective, but have to disagree a bit (I'm not looking for a battle, however). A ford is a stack of layers that are directly adjacent vertically, with the road slightly below the stream/river. In

Re: [Tagging] Culverts and Fords

2018-03-02 Thread Vao Matua
Rendering will always be an imperfect representation of the real world. I still feel that there is an inconsistency with the way these two circumstances are handled, but understand that this is one of the non-open parts of Open Street Map. I'm done trying to swim upstream on this. On Fri, Mar 2,

Re: [Tagging] Culverts and Fords

2018-03-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-03-02 16:17 GMT+01:00 Volker Schmidt : > In case of a culvert the objects are not on the same layer. The highway is > above the waterway (which may be intermittent or a wadi). > I aree it is nitpicking, but it depends on the geometry: I'd see the osm highway=* object as

Re: [Tagging] Culverts and Fords

2018-03-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-03-02 15:41 GMT+01:00 Vao Matua : > > A culvert is a part of of road construction, a culvert would not exist > without the road, but the culvert is utilized by the stream. Personally I > have physically installed culverts in road profiles where there is no > watercourse.

Re: [Tagging] Culverts and Fords

2018-03-02 Thread Volker Schmidt
The layers tag in OSM is only to enable the renderer to display/draw crossing OSM elements correctly. The element with the higher layer value is drown over the ones with lower layer values. In the case of the ford the waterway and the highway are on the same layer and share a node, which

Re: [Tagging] Culverts and Fords

2018-03-02 Thread Vao Matua
Thank you Ralph, I understand your perspective, but have to disagree a bit (I'm not looking for a battle, however). A ford is a stack of layers that are directly adjacent vertically, with the road slightly below the stream/river. In the dry season a ford is only a road and only becomes a ford

[Tagging] Culverts and Fords

2018-03-02 Thread Ralph Aytoun
The real easy way to understand culverts and fords for OpenStreetMap is about the layers they are on and this dictates the nodes they use. For a ford the stream/river is at the same level as the road (effectively layer=0) and therefore they are able to share a node. Because a culvert