Re: [Tagging] What is a VTC car in OSM ?

[Warin]

I think Uber is available to the public. So they should be PSV (assuming 
they are Uber etc).
There are bus parking spaces where bus driver takes a break. Possibly 
these too are for drivers to take a break?
It does need discussion with those that put them there as to what they 
mean.


One parking thing that is becoming more common - share cars. These 
parking spots are for 'share cars' that people can use (once they 
usually become a member and pay an annual fee).
They make good sense in places where they is limited parking and people 
find they usually walk or use public transport, if they own a car they 
cannot park  it anywhere near their home.
I know they exist frequently in Sydney .. about every block in certain 
areas.  They are not public, but private to members shared cars. 
Possibly tag access=private, private=share_car?
One firm is https://www.goget.com.au/  Humm they say 1,487 of them in 
Sydney, much less in other places.



 On 21/08/18 08:11, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
I think partially at least it would depend on the usage - are these 
spaces only available to use when you are using your car as a "taxi", 
so being parked to pick up passengers, or can you park your VTC there 
while you go & do the shopping! :-)


If only for use by a "taxi", then I'd be inclined to just leave them 
as a PSV space, possibly with a description to say that the space is 
for VTC.


Thanks

Graeme


On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 at 07:06, yo paseopor > wrote:


These days I am editing Barcelona's harbour. One of the things I
saw there is some places for VTC car (like taxi but private: Uber,
Cabify). I will not talk about the Spanish discussion about if
they have to exist or not, but in Barcelona's harbour we have
these kind of places of parking (4 or 5 spots). I think they are
not PSV vehicles (Should it exist PRSV (Private Service
Vehicles?). I try to find they in the wiki but I don't find it (I
don't consider they are taxis.
What do you think?

Thanks
Salut i taxi i VTC
yopaseopor
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Re: [Tagging] What is a VTC car in OSM ?

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

I think partially at least it would depend on the usage - are these spaces
only available to use when you are using your car as a "taxi", so being
parked to pick up passengers, or can you park your VTC there while you go &
do the shopping! :-)

If only for use by a "taxi", then I'd be inclined to just leave them as a
PSV space, possibly with a description to say that the space is for VTC.

Thanks

Graeme


On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 at 07:06, yo paseopor  wrote:

> These days I am editing Barcelona's harbour. One of the things I saw there
> is some places for VTC car (like taxi but private: Uber, Cabify). I will
> not talk about the Spanish discussion about if they have to exist or not,
> but in Barcelona's harbour we have these kind of places of parking (4 or 5
> spots). I think they are not PSV vehicles (Should it exist PRSV (Private
> Service Vehicles?). I try to find they in the wiki but I don't find it (I
> don't consider they are taxis.
> What do you think?
>
> Thanks
> Salut i taxi i VTC
> yopaseopor
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Re: [Tagging] residents only after hours

[Jmapb]

On 8/18/2018 5:02 PM, SelfishSeahorse wrote:

The reason is i forgot to remove the day numbers when copy-pasting. 
:-) You can omit them (but you don't have to).:


access=destination
access:conditional=yes @ (Oct-Apr 07:00-20:00; May-Sep 07:00-22:30)


Thanks -- since there's no impediment or signed regulation against 
bicycle etc. traffic, I'm going with this one. J
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Re: [Tagging] How to tag small canals?

[SelfishSeahorse]

Hi

I've written an issue request on openstreetmap-carto regarding the too
thick canal rendering:
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/3354

Regards
Markus
On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 at 18:20, Christoph Hormann  wrote:
>
> On Thursday 16 August 2018, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> > >
> > > All of this together has its origin in the fact that in the UK and
> > > other early OSM countries large artificial waterways are almost
> > > always for navigation and small artificial waterways are almost
> > > always for transporting away undesirable water.
> >
> > +1
> > That’s my analysis as well. What do you think, shouldn’t we fix the
> > wiki to make it more universally applicable to all kinds of
> > waterways?
>
> As usual i don't think you can change the definition of tags that are
> already used hundreds of thousands of times except by extending their
> scope which would make the tags more vague than they already are.
>
> What would make sense is to explicitly mention that waterway=canal does
> not have a lower size.
>
> Inventing a separate tagging scheme for irrigation systems might be an
> option too but irrigation is performed in very different ways in
> different parts of the world so it might not be too easy to create an
> universal tagging system for that.
>
> > The canal definition was changed in March 2018, before it said to use
> > canal only for „the largest waterways created for irrigation
> > purposes“
>
> Yes, that was the obvious attempt to expand the narrow scheme to other
> parts of the world in a superficial way oriented at the standard style
> rendering but not at the actual semantics.
>
> Going this route would essentially mean turning all of ditch/drain/canal
> into one big uniform catch-all.  Removing the above is the attempt to
> salvage some of the semantic value in the data.  Not sure how
> successful that is without support from the standard style though.
>
> Unfortunately waterway=canal has only 13k combinations with width=* and
> only 1.8k combinations with usage=* at the moment.  Extending that
> would be the best way to move forward IMO.
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Re: [Tagging] areas of risk

[Erkin Alp Güney]

Moreover, it is impossible in current API.


20-08-2018 10:45 tarihinde Mateusz Konieczny yazdı:
> 18. Sierpień 2018 20:44 od djakk.dj...@gmail.com
> :
>
> For such a subjective thing, it should be mapped by each
> openstreetmap member : djakk maps this area as dangerous, baloo as
> not dangerous, etc  and the renderer makes an average.
>
>
>
> This is a horrible idea and it should not be used. OSM is not a place
> for such inherently subjective opinions.
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Re: [Tagging] areas of risk

[seirra blake]

yeah, if it did get mapped it should probably at least be something specific 
otherwise the user has no idea what to watch out for, and it may unreasonably 
deter people from the area, i think it might be the same reason reviews aren't 
recorded?outside of that i don't think osm performs live actions or even can, 
does it? (would probably have some cool use cases though) whereas (as an 
example! there's probably a better neutral tag name to use) something like 
activity=graffiti would tell the user it's there, but also gives them enough 
information to make an unbiased decision (whilst some may think of it as a sign 
of danger, probably an equal number of people aren't even affected by its 
existence in an area) for example near lincoln, new mexico there's a rock that 
is a popular graffiti spot (before anyone looks for it to at least map as art, 
that was years ago that i was there, it might not still exist)
On Aug 20 2018, at 8:45 am, Mateusz Konieczny  wrote:
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> 18. Sierpień 2018 20:44 od djakk.dj...@gmail.com 
> (https://link.getmailspring.com/link/1534751304.local-117f7c54-95d6-v1.4.2-f587b...@getmailspring.com/0?redirect=mailto%3Adjakk.djakk%40gmail.com=dGFnZ2luZ0BvcGVuc3RyZWV0bWFwLm9yZw%3D%3D):
> > For such a subjective thing, it should be mapped by each openstreetmap 
> > member : djakk maps this area as dangerous, baloo as not dangerous, etc and 
> > the renderer makes an average.
>
>
>
>
> This is a horrible idea and it should not be used. OSM is not a place
> for such inherently subjective opinions.
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Re: [Tagging] areas of risk

[Mateusz Konieczny]

18. Sierpień 2018 20:44 od djakk.dj...@gmail.com :


> For such a subjective thing, it should be mapped by each openstreetmap member 
> : djakk maps this area as dangerous, baloo as not dangerous, etc  and the 
> renderer makes an average.






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