Re: [Tagging] Out of the bars and onto the map: An lgbtq:*=* tagging scheme?

2018-10-24 Thread Yves
I agree with Frederick here, lgbtq=yes looks like the access tags. This discussion also reminds me the motorcycle-friendly thread not so long ago. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/motorcycle_friendly Yves Le 23 octobre 2018 20:27:04 GMT+02:00, Rory McCann a écrit : >Hi all,

Re: [Tagging] mast / tower / communication_tower (again)

2018-10-24 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 at 09:41, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > 1. Multipurpose tower still seems a little ambiguous to me. Observation > tower is closer for most of them, because they are big enough to have > elevators and public observation decks, right? > Multipurpose certainly isn't ideal, but was

Re: [Tagging] Out of the bars and onto the map: An lgbtq:*=* tagging scheme?

2018-10-24 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 at 09:56, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > This is not my area of expertise. Or mine! :-) > So I believe this would be verifiable information. It would also be safe > to tag women=no for bars or clubs even in countries where LGBT activity is > illegal or persecuted.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

2018-10-24 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 at 11:41, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Err no. > > The 'government' is not 'foreign' but of federal/state/local jurisdiction > to that place. > > landuse=diplomatic??? > Yes, but that patch of ground is owned by the "Australian" govt - it's just that it's located in

Re: [Tagging] Out of the bars and onto the map: An lgbtq:*=* tagging scheme?

2018-10-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 6:56 PM Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > This is not my area of expertise. But I’ve noticed that a number of bars > that are designed for gay men in the USA have a sign on the door with a > crossed out “W”. It looks like a no smoking sign but with a capital W > instead of a

Re: [Tagging] Out of the bars and onto the map: An lgbtq:*=* tagging scheme?

2018-10-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 4:12 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > I've seen & wondered about the "gay" classification on places before. > > When going on holidays & checking accommodation / travel guides for > options, you often see a number of hotels / motels which are listed as "gay > friendly".

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

2018-10-24 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
If amenity=school, amenity=university and amenity=hospital count as a landuse, then amenity=embassy / consulate can be treated like the landuse of the area. I don’t think a separate landuse tag is needed if the embassy is drawn as a closed way (“area”) -Joseph On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 10:41 AM

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

2018-10-24 Thread Warin
Err no. The 'government' is not 'foreign' but of federal/state/local jurisdiction to that place. landuse=diplomatic??? On 25/10/18 12:25, Allan Mustard wrote: I like Graeme's idea.  Round peg in round hole.  How would people feel about modifying the current Consulate proposal to

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

2018-10-24 Thread Allan Mustard
I like Graeme's idea.  Round peg in round hole.  How would people feel about modifying the current Consulate proposal to encompass this?  Or should I leave the proposal for amenity=consulate as it is? On 10/25/2018 3:13 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Just had a thought :-) > > Would this work

Re: [Tagging] Out of the bars and onto the map: An lgbtq:*=* tagging scheme?

2018-10-24 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
This is not my area of expertise. But I’ve noticed that a number of bars that are designed for gay men in the USA have a sign on the door with a crossed out “W”. It looks like a no smoking sign but with a capital W instead of a cigarette. This means “no women allowed.” My wife tells me this is

Re: [Tagging] mast / tower / communication_tower (again)

2018-10-24 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
1. Multipurpose tower still seems a little ambiguous to me. Observation tower is closer for most of them, because they are big enough to have elevators and public observation decks, right? Since there are already tags for tower:type=observation and tower:type=communications, perhaps there is no

Re: [Tagging] mast / tower / communication_tower (again)

2018-10-24 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 at 08:19, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > FYI, currently the height and tower:type of man_made=tower is used to set > the zoom level where it appears on the Openstreetmap-carto style sheet > (“standard” style). > Thanks Joseph - I obviously misread it (or don't remember the exact

Re: [Tagging] mast / tower / communication_tower (again)

2018-10-24 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
FYI, currently the height and tower:type of man_made=tower is used to set the zoom level where it appears on the Openstreetmap-carto style sheet (“standard” style). But man_made=communications_tower is assumed to be big and tall, so it renders like a >100m tall tower with no type, or

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

2018-10-24 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 at 07:37, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 25/10/18 07:51, Kevin Kenny wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 4:19 PM Allan Mustard wrote: >> >>> Please do continue to comment and to offer suggestions, and to pose >>> questions. >>> >> This is pretty much based on gut

Re: [Tagging] mast / tower / communication_tower (again)

2018-10-24 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 at 04:03, SelfishSeahorse wrote: > > Regarding the unclear man_made=communications_tower tag, nobody wrote > that she or he is opposed to deprecating it. Do we still need a > deprecation proposal? (Note that it wasn't introduced by a proposal.) > Just catching back up to OSM

Re: [Tagging] Hot springs and Geysers

2018-10-24 Thread Richard
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 08:42:40AM +0900, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > There are now over 500 hot springs mapped with natural=hot_spring. The tag > was proposed way back in 2008 but the proposal was never approved. Wiki: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dhot_spring > Original

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

2018-10-24 Thread Warin
On 25/10/18 07:51, Kevin Kenny wrote: On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 4:19 PM Allan Mustard mailto:al...@mustard.net>> wrote: Please do continue to comment and to offer suggestions, and to pose questions.  This is pretty much based on gut feelings and may be partially or

Re: [Tagging] Out of the bars and onto the map: An lgbtq:*=* tagging scheme?

2018-10-24 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
I've seen & wondered about the "gay" classification on places before. When going on holidays & checking accommodation / travel guides for options, you often see a number of hotels / motels which are listed as "gay friendly". Does this mean only gays stay there / a majority of guests are straight

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

2018-10-24 Thread Paul Allen
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:40 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 25/10/18 02:52, Paul Allen wrote: > > An alternative ... just use the diplomatic key alone. > I could live with that. I think. I have a vague feeling of unease about it, for some reason I can't put my finger on. Maybe

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

2018-10-24 Thread Kevin Kenny
> > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 4:19 PM Allan Mustard wrote: > >> Please do continue to comment and to offer suggestions, and to pose >> questions. >> > This is pretty much based on gut feelings and may be partially or > completely wrong... > > I don't think "amenity" is a suitable tag for a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

2018-10-24 Thread Warin
On 25/10/18 02:52, Paul Allen wrote: On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 4:19 PM Allan Mustard > wrote: Please do continue to comment and to offer suggestions, and to pose questions.  This is pretty much based on gut feelings and may be partially or completely wrong...

Re: [Tagging] Hot springs and geysers

2018-10-24 Thread EthnicFood IsGreat
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 10:15:56 +1000 From: Graeme Fitzpatrick To: OSM Tag Subject: Re: [Tagging] Hot springs and Geysers On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 09:44, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: There are now over 500 hot springs mapped with natural=hot_spring. The tag was proposed way back in 2008 but the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

2018-10-24 Thread Steve Doerr
On 24/10/2018 16:17, Allan Mustard wrote: service:apostiles=yes· The Oxford English Dictionary recognizes two spellings, apostil and apostille, with the latter only being used in Oxford's more up-to-date dictionaries. Therefore, I would recommend service=apostilles -- Steve ---

Re: [Tagging] Out of the bars and onto the map: An lgbtq:*=* tagging scheme?

2018-10-24 Thread Rory McCann
On 23/10/2018 23:53, Andy Mabbett wrote >> "shop=books lgbtq=yes" is a LGBTQ book shop > Wouldn't that be "shop=books books=lgbtq"? Good point. On 24/10/2018 00:55, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: there may be lgbtq things, but there are also places which are explicitly gay bars, i.e. for

Re: [Tagging] mast / tower / communication_tower (again)

2018-10-24 Thread SelfishSeahorse
On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 16:07, Greg Troxel wrote: > > The guy wires or not is made into the main thing here, but it's really a > detail. Obviously, from a certain height, tall cylindrical structures like masts need guy-wires for stabilisation. Otherwise, they need a larger diameter or a conical

Re: [Tagging] Out of the bars and onto the map: An lgbtq:*=* tagging scheme?

2018-10-24 Thread Jmapb
On 10/24/2018 4:27 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote: *When* to add a lgbtq=yes tag can be hard to know. In some places a gay bar can be easily identified by a prominent rainbow flag. Some cultures are less accepting, so bars might not be so blatant (I've seen this in the EU). Using the common OSM

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

2018-10-24 Thread Paul Allen
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 5:27 PM Allan Mustard wrote: I have no idea why amenity=embassy first came into existence. > The usual reasons. Somebody needed to tag an embassy, couldn't find a documented way of doing it so used the first tag that came to mind. There is another proposal to create

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

2018-10-24 Thread Allan Mustard
Well, at the moment the question as articulated in the wiki is whether to split the existing amenity=embassy (which encompasses both embassies and consulates) into amenity=embassy and amenity=consulate.  If in the view of the OSM community amenity=consulate is inappropriate, then logically so is

Re: [Tagging] Another multipolygon question

2018-10-24 Thread Adam Franco
My pleasure, Dave! I'm glad to have helped even a little. :-) Here's another short (2:25) video showing how I use the Relation Editor window to sort and find disconnected segments: https://youtu.be/87nRQHuatOE Cheers! Adam On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:35 AM Dave Swarthout wrote: > They say a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

2018-10-24 Thread Paul Allen
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 4:19 PM Allan Mustard wrote: > Please do continue to comment and to offer suggestions, and to pose > questions. > This is pretty much based on gut feelings and may be partially or completely wrong... I don't think "amenity" is a suitable tag for a consulate. Amenities

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

2018-10-24 Thread Allan Mustard
I have updated both the proposal page and the discussion page (with e-mailed comments) of Proposed features/Consulate https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Consulate Please do continue to comment and to offer suggestions, and to pose questions.  I am incorporating suggestions

Re: [Tagging] Another multipolygon question

2018-10-24 Thread EthnicFood IsGreat
From: Kevin Kenny To: David Swarthout , "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" , bkil , Mateusz Konieczny Subject: Re: [Tagging] Another multipolygon question On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 7:34 AM bkil wrote: It seems many would find a short video tutorial depicting these

Re: [Tagging] Another multipolygon question

2018-10-24 Thread Dave Swarthout
They say a picture is worth a thousand words and IMO that video says bushels about mapping relations. I was always a bit scared when fooling with them because as it turns out, their reputation is worse than the reality. The Reltoolbox is similar to the normal relation editor as Kevin points out

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Research station

2018-10-24 Thread Warin
I think there are more research stations that are not so remote, not manned 24/7 nor have residences on site. Some links to a diverse range of possible 'research stations' https://www.csiro.au/en/Research/OandA/Areas/Assessing-our-climate/Greenhouse-gas-data

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

2018-10-24 Thread Warin
Very happy to have left it alone! I'll wait for awhile before I tag it. At present it looks like it might get diplomatic=mission On 24/10/18 20:08, Allan Mustard wrote: Nuncios are specifically named in the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations, as are envoys, ministers, and chargés

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

2018-10-24 Thread Warin
On 24/10/18 20:50, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Mi., 24. Okt. 2018 um 03:48 Uhr schrieb Allan Mustard mailto:al...@mustard.net>>: One of the commenters has suggested an additional tag indicating what services a consulate or embassy provides, and that is one option.  Not all

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Research station

2018-10-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Mi., 24. Okt. 2018 um 10:20 Uhr schrieb Bren Barnes : > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Research_station > > A *research station* is an amenity that is built for the purpose of > conducting scientific research. Research stations are often located in > remote areas of the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

2018-10-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Mi., 24. Okt. 2018 um 03:48 Uhr schrieb Allan Mustard : > One of the commenters has suggested an additional tag indicating what > services a consulate or embassy provides, and that is one option. Not all > consulates or consular sections of embassies offer all visa types, for > example. The

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Research station

2018-10-24 Thread Jonathon Rossi
Here in Queensland Australia, our Department of Agriculture and Fisheries run many research stations obviously doing primary industries based research. Some universities do perform research there, but they are government

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

2018-10-24 Thread Allan Mustard
Nuncios are specifically named in the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations, as are envoys, ministers, and chargés d’affaires: *Article 14* 1.Heads of mission are divided into three classes, namely: (a) That of ambassadors or nuncios accredited to Heads of State, and other heads of mission of

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Research station

2018-10-24 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Wednesday 24 October 2018, Bren Barnes wrote: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Research_statio >n It is not quite clear what criteria qualify a place as a research station based on your proposal. You might in particular want to consider the distinction from things

Re: [Tagging] Out of the bars and onto the map: An lgbtq:*=* tagging scheme?

2018-10-24 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Tuesday 23 October 2018, Rory McCann wrote: > [...] > > *When* to add a lgbtq=yes tag can be hard to know. In some places a > gay bar can be easily identified by a prominent rainbow flag. Some > cultures are less accepting, so bars might not be so blatant (I've > seen this in the EU). Using the

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Research station

2018-10-24 Thread Bren Barnes
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Research_station A *research station* is an amenity that is built for the purpose of conducting scientific research. Research stations are often located in remote areas of the world, such as in the polar regions or oceans. Due to their remote

Re: [Tagging] Out of the bars and onto the map: An lgbtq:*=* tagging scheme?

2018-10-24 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 23.10.2018 20:27, Rory McCann wrote: > So to start off, I'm suggest a simple "lgbtq=yes" tag to > mean "this thing is a LGBTQ thing". Bit difficult perhaps since usually "blah=yes" means that blah is available or blah is permitted, not that the place is mostly/exclusively for blah.