Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

On 2018-11-04 01:20, Paul Allen wrote: > On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 12:10 AM Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > >> Question though (more for someone in Europe) - is a "Member of the European >> Parliament" elected, or just appointed by their home country? Are they a >> "politician" as such? > >

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

On 04/11/18 11:20, Paul Allen wrote: On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 12:10 AM Graeme Fitzpatrick mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com>> wrote: Question though (more for someone in Europe) - is a "Member of the European Parliament" elected, or just appointed by their home country? Are they a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - emergency=fire_alarm_box

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 1:06 PM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I think you have to make it clear if it should be limited to public alarms > on the street, or any alarm box could get the tag including those in > buildings, and if it is the former the tag should get a different name, > while the tag

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=governmental

sent from a phone On 4. Nov 2018, at 22:56, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: >> the tag is about land used by government. > > "Owned" or "used"? used___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] How to tag named group of named water areas?

sent from a phone > On 4. Nov 2018, at 11:35, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > 4. Nov 2018 06:36 by daveswarth...@gmail.com: > I realize it can be done this way but it's a ton of work (quote: not very > easy) compared to making one simple edit to tag the entire collection of ways. > > > I

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=governmental

4. Nov 2018 22:52 by 61sundow...@gmail.com : > excludes:Land owned by the government, but not used for governing (e.g. > national forests or parks) > > Sorry .. but ownership is some thing mappers may find hard to determine. > The point of this exclusion is

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=governmental

On Sun, 4 Nov 2018 at 23:44, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 4. Nov 2018, at 14:21, SelfishSeahorse > wrote: > > > > 'Land owned by the government, > > > I would not insist on the ownership at all in the definition, the tag is > about land used by government. >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=governmental

On 05/11/18 00:21, SelfishSeahorse wrote: Hi Mateusz, Thank you for your feedback! "for marking government premises" sounds like replacement of office=* tag I've changed the definition (back) to 'land used by government bodies / for governing'. Current definitions "This excludes: (...)

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - emergency=fire_alarm_box

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 5:40 AM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > it is exactly the same thing . I would also include those in private > buildings, there’s no difference. > I can see how one would think they are the same. To a first respondent, they have few important differences that may not be

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

I think I'm going to borrow your text and make it the last version of the proposal, then put it to a vote.  Today marks two weeks, so we can call a vote if everybody's ready.  I go back on the road Tuesday afternoon for a few days so will be off the grid, good time to get started. On 11/4/2018

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

Exactly right.  Government has a legal monopoly on coercion, ranging from the death penalty to collection of taxes and enforcement of the barking dog ordinance in Fairfax County, Virginia.  Contractors do a lot of government work (in the United States, contractors outnumber direct-hire government

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

The activity of a prison is on behalf of a government, pursuant to a statutory duty of the government to administer justice. That its operation is outsourced to a private company doesn't change that fact. You can't just start your own prison - it is a state monopoly. Public transport may be a

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

sent from a phone > On 4. Nov 2018, at 10:19, Allan Mustard wrote: > > If it is a budget-dependent company/corporation, such as the Commodity Credit > Corporation of the U.S. government, which generates no revenue of its own and > relies wholly on appropriations from the U.S. Congress, yes,

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

Thanks for the clear explanation, Allan! Although if it really has zero staff, I do wonder who employs the people who "push the buttons" - authorising and approving payments etc. Do they work for the Dept of Agriculture? Are they technically "contractors" to the CCC? On 2018-11-04 13:43, Allan

Re: [Tagging] How to tag named group of named water areas?

Let me try to clarify what I'm saying again. Gerd writes: If we follow Daves idea one might create a relation combining a few things that have the same tag, e.g. all building=residential in a town, name it something like "residential buildings" and finally remove the tags from those buildings. I

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=governmental

4. Nov 2018 14:43 by dieterdre...@gmail.com : > > > sent from a phone > >> On 4. Nov 2018, at 14:21, SelfishSeahorse <>> selfishseaho...@gmail.com >> >> > wrote: >> >> 'Land owned by the government, but not used for governing' >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=governmental

sent from a phone > On 4. Nov 2018, at 14:21, SelfishSeahorse wrote: > > 'Land owned by the government, but not used for governing' doesn’t this make it hard to verify? I would not insist on the ownership at all in the definition, the tag is about land used by government. Cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - emergency=fire_alarm_box

sent from a phone > On 4. Nov 2018, at 01:32, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Do we also use this tag to tag the "In case of fire, break glass" alarms eg > https://goo.gl/images/4qVSgc, that are found throughout public access > buildings eg hospitals, high rise offices, hotels, universities

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=governmental

Hi Mateusz, Thank you for your feedback! > "for marking government premises" sounds like replacement of office=* tag I've changed the definition (back) to 'land used by government bodies / for governing'. > Current definitions "This excludes: (...) Land ''owned'' by the government" > means

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

The Commodity Credit Corporation is the U.S. equivalent of a British "crown corporation".  It has no staff of its own, a board of directors that consists of the senior political appointees of the U.S. Department of Agriculture, and authority to disburse funds to farmers eligible for various

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

On 2018-11-01 20:12, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 11:14 AM Allan Mustard > wrote: * shift to office=diplomatic and use the existing diplomatic=* additional (secondary) tag to specify whether embassy, consulate, or other, then use

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

The answer will depend on whether we are talking about landuse, building, office or amenity. Waste disposal is (in Europe) usually a statutory task, performed by a commercial company on behalf of some government. If it is open to the public, then the "amenity" provided is waste disposal /

Re: [Tagging] How to tag named group of named water areas?

4. Nov 2018 06:36 by daveswarth...@gmail.com : > I realize it can be done this way but it's a ton of work (quote: not very > easy) compared to making one simple edit to tag the entire collection of > ways. I would not call clicking three or four times "ton of

Re: [Tagging] How to tag named group of named water areas?

4. Nov 2018 10:14 by gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com : > So, if one starts to remove tags from members because the relation repeats > the tag he has to make sure that this is a well established method. Not sure > if this is the case for pipelines? >

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

Where do you draw the line? If a 'government company' has 50% of its income from a government allocation and the rest from elsewhere (e.g. contracts with private companies/individuals) is it 'government' or not?  On 04/11/18 20:19, Allan Mustard wrote: If it is a profitable company that

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=governmental

Current definitions "This excludes: (...) Land ''owned'' by the government" means thatparliament complex owned by government is not landuse=government. "Excludes" should be replaced by something like "This is not sufficient to classify as thislanduse by itself" (but in way that is

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=governmental

link: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/landuse%3Dgovernmental I think that proposal is not making clear that it should be used for areas of land wherethis land use dominates. "for marking

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=governmental

Hello! I've made following additions to the proposal: * Addition of the new tag governmental=legislature/executive/judiciary for specifying the governmental branch. * Reuse of the existing tag admin_level=* for indicating the administrative level (country, state, municipal etc.). Are

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tramtrack on highway=

sent from a phone > On 4. Nov 2018, at 09:12, Nikulainen, Jukka K > wrote: > > As Mateusz mentioned it might be better to use a more general tag for > tramtracks on a highway than just an access-key for bicyclists. > > On the other hand, the real danger of the indents in the tracks is

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

sent from a phone > On 4. Nov 2018, at 05:54, Allan Mustard wrote: > > Paul, as Deep Throat told Bob Woodward, "Follow the money." Who pays the > rent on the office and who pays the salary of the occupant? If the filthy > lucre comes out of the government budget, and the office is used by

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tramtrack on highway=

On 04/11/18 19:12, Nikulainen, Jukka K wrote: Hi all! Thank you for all for good points and special thanks to Mateusz for the pictures and further proposals! Sorry for the delay in my replies. As Mateusz mentioned it might be better to use a more general tag for tramtracks on a highway than

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

If it is a profitable company that adds to the government's coffers, such as the Budvar brewery in the Czech Republic, which is government owned, I'd say no.  It should be tagged as a brewery.  Same logic would apply to Rosoboronexport, which is Russia's second-largest revenue earner as an arms

Re: [Tagging] How to tag named group of named water areas?

If we follow Daves idea one might create a relation combining a few things that have the same tag, e.g. all building=residential in a town, name it something like "residential buildings" and finally remove the tags from those buildings. I hope nobody thinks this would be a good idea. Reg. the TAP

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tramtrack on highway=

Hi all! Thank you for all for good points and special thanks to Mateusz for the pictures and further proposals! Sorry for the delay in my replies. As Mateusz mentioned it might be better to use a more general tag for tramtracks on a highway than just an access-key for bicyclists. On the other