Re: [Tagging] units and notations for maxstay

2019-02-19 Thread Andrew Errington
Already handled by ISO8601: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601#Durations I think any discussion of dates and times should start by asking if we could apply ISO8601 to the problem at hand. For example the other thread about start date variants. Andrew On Wed, Feb 20, 2019, 12:48 Warin <61

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: [tagging] Canoe route / nautical channels

2019-02-19 Thread Dave Swarthout
Sure, it works for me. I've only mapped one canoe route so far and, based on this thread, have already added the waterway=fairway tag to all the previously untagged ways in the route. On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 4:12 AM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 at 01:30, Fernando Trebien >

Re: [Tagging] units and notations for maxstay

2019-02-19 Thread Warin
On 20/02/19 10:32, Paul Allen wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 at 23:16, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com > wrote: On 19/02/19 22:03, Paul Allen wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 at 03:48, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com > wrote: Not

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

2019-02-19 Thread Warin
On 19/02/19 21:21, Tony Shield wrote: I'm not in favour of combining ditch and drain. My mind sees a ditch as a dug-out stream which may flow into a stream or flow into a drain, the drain being a much larger flow. I see drains as  having water flow several metres wide but a ditch as less than

Re: [Tagging] units and notations for maxstay

2019-02-19 Thread Paul Allen
On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 at 23:16, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 19/02/19 22:03, Paul Allen wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 at 03:48, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Nothing I could see on the wiki for this. So some guidance would be good. >> >> Units. >> > > I added a maxstay a fe

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

2019-02-19 Thread Warin
On 19/02/19 20:40, Eugene Podshivalov wrote: Canals and ditches are artificial channels carrying naturual water this suggests there is 'unnatural' water... , so are the channels of a straightened river or stream. imho there is not difference between them. No difference to the water (natural or

Re: [Tagging] units and notations for maxstay

2019-02-19 Thread Warin
On 19/02/19 22:03, Paul Allen wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 at 03:48, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com > wrote: Nothing I could see on the wiki for this. So some guidance would be good. Units. I added a maxstay a few weeks ago and I found info about units a

Re: [Tagging] units and notations for maxstay

2019-02-19 Thread Warin
On 19/02/19 22:11, marc marc wrote: Le 19.02.19 à 04:47, Warin a écrit : For infinite maximum stay time; 24/7? unlimilted - ? no_limit? the first not-numérical value is "no" https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/maxstay=no that look like good (no maxstay = unlimited) I dislike 0 : not allowed

Re: [Tagging] Rivers intermittently navigable

2019-02-19 Thread Warin
On 20/02/19 06:14, Fernando Trebien wrote: On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 11:59 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 at 12:32, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Only navigability is intermittent. I think Graeme is suggesting boat=intermittent motorboat=intermittent These values ar

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: [tagging] Canoe route / nautical channels

2019-02-19 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 at 01:30, Fernando Trebien wrote: > > I've applied the two fairway tags to a major fairway on a lake [1][2], > please let me know if you think anything should be mapped differently. > At first glance, it seems to work, thanks Fernando. Dave / Kenny - would it also work for y

Re: [Tagging] Rivers intermittently navigable

2019-02-19 Thread Fernando Trebien
On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 11:59 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 at 12:32, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Only navigability is intermittent. >> >> I think Graeme is suggesting >> >> boat=intermittent >> >> motorboat=intermittent >> >> These values are not documented

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: [tagging] Canoe route / nautical channels

2019-02-19 Thread Fernando Trebien
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 7:45 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > So waterway=fairway applies anywhere, but if it's a "major" (marked) channel, > then it also gets seamark:type=fairway. I've applied the two fairway tags to a major fairway on a lake [1][2], please let me know if you think anything shou

Re: [Tagging] units and notations for depth

2019-02-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 5:19 AM Tony Shield wrote: > Quite right. For OSM purposes I suggest depth in metres, if water is > tidal=yes also tidal_range in metres. > > I can't think of any reason to try to replicate nautical charts and tide > tables. And when planning navigation I do not consider n

Re: [Tagging] units and notations for depth

2019-02-19 Thread Tony Shield
Quite right. For OSM purposes I suggest depth in metres, if water is tidal=yes also tidal_range in metres. I can't think of any reason to try to replicate nautical charts and tide tables. And when planning navigation I do not consider not using formal navigation charts and tables specific to t

Re: [Tagging] units and notations for maxstay

2019-02-19 Thread marc marc
Le 19.02.19 à 04:47, Warin a écrit : > For infinite maximum stay time; > 24/7? > unlimilted - ? > no_limit? the first not-numérical value is "no" https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/maxstay=no that look like good (no maxstay = unlimited) I dislike 0 : not allowed to stay at all or unlimited ?)

Re: [Tagging] units and notations for maxstay

2019-02-19 Thread Paul Allen
On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 at 03:48, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Nothing I could see on the wiki for this. So some guidance would be good. > > Units. > I added a maxstay a few weeks ago and I found info about units at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxstay Units are not explicitly d

Re: [Tagging] units and notations for depth

2019-02-19 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-02-19 11:11, Tony Shield wrote: > Depth of water in tidal areas can vary enormously. People using depth for > navigation and general use would expect to use depth at MLWS (Mean Low Water > Springs) and add increments based on tide tables, I suggest that OSM does the > same. Use the tida

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

2019-02-19 Thread Tony Shield
I'm not in favour of combining ditch and drain. My mind sees a ditch as a dug-out stream which may flow into a stream or flow into a drain, the drain being a much larger flow. I see drains as having water flow several metres wide but a ditch as less than a metre of surface flow. TonyS On 11/0

Re: [Tagging] units and notations for depth

2019-02-19 Thread Tony Shield
Depth of water in tidal areas can vary enormously. People using depth for navigation and general use would expect to use depth at MLWS (Mean Low Water Springs) and add increments based on tide tables, I suggest that OSM does the same. Use the tidal tag and perhaps a tidal-range tag, in metres,

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

2019-02-19 Thread Eugene Podshivalov
Canals and ditches are artificial channels carrying naturual water, so are the channels of a straightened river or stream. imho there is not difference between them. If we had such sections tagged as artificial waterways it would be possible to calculate statistics on man's impact on natural waterw

Re: [Tagging] Sharps / syringe disposal

2019-02-19 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
I’m a physician. Sharps boxes are designed for safe disposal of all sharp medical waste, whether a scalpel, needle or broken glass. I asked a British doctor, and she confirms that “sharps” is also the correct term in England. Syringes are not sharp. It’s the needle (which may be attached to a syr

Re: [Tagging] units and notations for depth

2019-02-19 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-02-19 04:03, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Not opposition, but for tidal areas, isn't this going to have the same > problems of whether you mark the "coastline" at the high- or low-tide line? Coastline is MHW, that is settled isn't it? Water heights are more problematic though, because t