Re: [Tagging] shop=cannabis including medical cannabis

@Jmapb I agree with all of your points. Reiterating a bit: Using the cannabis:*.* tag to designate a place where one can buy cannabis, be it a pharmacy or a shop=cannabis, or be it for recreational or medical use, will go a long way toward making this scenario both understandable and logical. I

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of non-approved values for diplomatic=?

On 15/06/19 08:57, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Some people disapprove of editing a database object without checking if it still exists, because an edit implies that you have confirmed that the information about the feature is still correct. I usually check on a web page, most of them have a

Re: [Tagging] lanes = 0

+1 with Joseph OSM is world wide. What is suitable in one place may not work in another. The use of the tags should follow local customs, the presence of lanes should be judged by local customs, in Australia they are legally required to be marked for multi lane roads, a road with a lane in

Re: [Tagging] man-made missing-manhole mistery

The page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:manhole implies that manhole=drain is for manholes that provide access to an underground "surface water drain for removing rainwater", so they should not be the opening or grate for water. However, I don't know if this is how the tag is actually

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of non-approved values for diplomatic=?

Some people disapprove of editing a database object without checking if it still exists, because an edit implies that you have confirmed that the information about the feature is still correct. Back to the original question: should diplomatic=honorary_consulate and the related tags be marked as

Re: [Tagging] lanes = 0

This requirement is fine for Europe, but the presence of lane markings is not reliable in all of the world. In developing countries, such as here in Indonesia, the presence of painted lane markings is inconsistent. Often cheap pain is used instead of more durable thermoplastic, so the markings

Re: [Tagging] man-made missing-manhole mistery

On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 at 06:11, Volker Schmidt wrote: > I stumbled upon this: > According to the manhole > wikipage "manhole=drain" has as a prerequisite "man_made=manhole" > BUT, according to taginfo, there are > 10337 instances of "

Re: [Tagging] shop=cannabis including medical cannabis

On 6/14/2019 5:33 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: Martin wrote: >It would imply adding shop=cannabis to pharmacies? In some countries the sale of medicine is restricted to pharmacies. Not necessarily. IMO, we could also use the cannabis:medical=yes/only tag to pharmacies offering it. Yes, my

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of non-approved values for diplomatic=?

Le 14.06.19 à 21:26, Lionel Giard a écrit : > we need an human review I wonder what the added value to make a human review for changing diplomatic=honorary_consulate into diplomatic=consulate + consulate=honorary_consulate of course, some may be wrong, but this has nothing to do with the tag

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of non-approved values for diplomatic=?

On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 at 05:30, Lionel Giard wrote: > So it will change with time and become more and more prevalent, but it > takes time. We could always makes some sort of challenge by country to > check the embassy/consulate/... to speed things up. > Wouldn't / shouldn't the name show what it

Re: [Tagging] lanes = 0

First, the consensus in OSM is, that only the tag key lanes=* is used, when there is are visual markings for lanes. Then the question is, are there lanes? Yes or no. How many? lane_marking= no, we agreed (OSM), when no visual lanes there are no lanes, lane_marking, it is referring to lanes,

Re: [Tagging] shop=cannabis including medical cannabis

Martin wrote: >It would imply adding shop=cannabis to pharmacies? In some countries the sale of medicine is restricted to pharmacies. Not necessarily. IMO, we could also use the cannabis:medical=yes/only tag to pharmacies offering it. On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 12:58 PM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:

Re: [Tagging] shop=cannabis including medical cannabis

sent from a phone > On 14. Jun 2019, at 18:26, Jmapb wrote: > > An accepted answer to a recent question on help.openstreetmap.org ( > https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/69593/how-to-tag-a-medical-cannabis-dispensary > ) suggested expanding the definition of shop=cannabis to include >

[Tagging] Ho to tag the position of objects on highways

If I have an object on a highway, like a manhole on a road, or a traffic sign pole or lamp post on a footway, how do I map this object, when it is not on the centreline of the road or footway (and without mapping the highway as an area). Here

[Tagging] man-made missing-manhole mistery

I stumbled upon this: According to the manhole wikipage "manhole=drain" has as a prerequisite "man_made=manhole" BUT, according to taginfo, there are 10337 instances of " manhole=drain", but only 1809 instances of "man_made=manhole" Is it time to

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of non-approved values for diplomatic=?

The editor presets are already changed (so any modification or new creation of embassy, consulate or liaison use the new tagging scheme). The number of diplomatic=* tag compared to the number of office=* tag is due to the fact that the "diplomatic"=* tag was already existing but used slightly

Re: [Tagging] shop=cannabis including medical cannabis

On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 19:13, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > Furthermore, in the U.S. normal pharmacies do not, AFAIK, sell cannabis. > Yet. I'd expect that in some jurisdictions pharmacies will eventually sell medicinal cannabis, if only on prescription. I'd expect that eventually, in some

Re: [Tagging] shop=cannabis including medical cannabis

On 6/14/2019 2:12 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: I strongly agree that the Wiki should be updated to include the tags already in use for medical and recreational use of marijuana. I'm don't understand why the Wiki authors made it so restrictive in the first place. Furthermore, in the U.S.

Re: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of the tagging list

On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 6:05 AM John Willis via Tagging wrote: > On Jun 4, 2019, at 2:40 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > Or you will use. > Thanks for handling man_made bridge. I use it a lot. > > The only comment to this idea of “make tags for you to use” is that if you > invent a tagging

Re: [Tagging] shop=cannabis including medical cannabis

Not in most parts of the world where medical cannabis is sold. In most places, medical cannabis is in a legal grey area, and no reputable pharmacy would risk its license by dispensing something that is still on the books as an illegal drug. -- Mark On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 19:15:14 +0200 Tobias

Re: [Tagging] shop=cannabis including medical cannabis

I strongly agree that the Wiki should be updated to include the tags already in use for medical and recreational use of marijuana. I'm don't understand why the Wiki authors made it so restrictive in the first place. I also agree that these dispensaries are merely special purpose shops and not

Re: [Tagging] shop=cannabis including medical cannabis

On 6/14/2019 1:15 PM, Tobias Zwick wrote: Wouldn't medical cannabis be sold in pharmacies? The world is vast and diverse, so I imagine the answer is yes. But in the places I map most (USA), medical cannabis is sold in single-purpose shops called dispensaries, which do not stock any other

Re: [Tagging] shop=cannabis including medical cannabis

Wouldn't medical cannabis be sold in pharmacies? On 14/06/2019 18:26, Jmapb wrote: > An accepted answer to a recent question on help.openstreetmap.org ( > https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/69593/how-to-tag-a-medical-cannabis-dispensary > ) suggested expanding the definition of

Re: [Tagging] shop=cannabis including medical cannabis

Le 14.06.19 à 18:26, Jmapb a écrit : > the subtags cannabis:medical and cannabis:recreational are proposed or usage=medical|recreational ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] shop=cannabis including medical cannabis

An accepted answer to a recent question on help.openstreetmap.org ( https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/69593/how-to-tag-a-medical-cannabis-dispensary ) suggested expanding the definition of shop=cannabis to include dispensaries for medical cannabis. This makes sense to me, and the original

[Tagging] extend unsigned key to describe "no info on the ground" for a key

Hello, Le 13.06.19 à 15:15, Tobias Zwick a écrit : > it semantically refers to the <...> key it is a problem common to many keys but there is no overall coherence. extend unsigned used for name with unsigned= is easy to make a link betweeen the key and "no info on the ground". it avoids: -

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of non-approved values for diplomatic=?

Le 14.06.19 à 15:10, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > we should be very reluctant to mark tags as deprecated (i.e. it > should happen after their usage significantly dropped in French we say "c'est le chat qui se mord la queue" tag use changes little as long as presets do not change. presets

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Tag:tourism=camp_pitch

Le 14.06.19 à 16:34, Joseph Eisenberg a écrit : > The proposal for the feature tag tourism=camp_pitch is now open for voting. > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:tourism%3Dcamp_pitch I hope that the size of the proposal and its ambiguity will not harm it (it is presented

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Tag:tourism=camp_pitch

The proposal for the feature tag tourism=camp_pitch is now open for voting. This is a follow-up to the rejected proposal for camp_site=camp_pitch The proposed tag tourism=camp_pitch provides a way to tag individual pitches within a campsite (a.k.a. "campground" in American English) or caravan

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 117, Issue 36

Am Do., 13. Juni 2019 um 10:43 Uhr schrieb Leif Rasmussen <354...@gmail.com >: > The main thing that is hard here is deciding at which width 1 lane becomes > 2. In the United States, unmarked roads are usually wide enough for 2 cars > to easily pass each other, so are practically speaking 2

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of non-approved values for diplomatic=?

Am Fr., 14. Juni 2019 um 13:40 Uhr schrieb Joseph Eisenberg < joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>: > Right. > > By "deprecated" this is what I mean: should the wiki pages be changed > to make it clear that diplomatic=honorary_consulate is no longer > preferred, and could be changed to

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of non-approved values for diplomatic=?

Right. By "deprecated" this is what I mean: should the wiki pages be changed to make it clear that diplomatic=honorary_consulate is no longer preferred, and could be changed to diplomatic=consulate + consulate=honorary_consulate ? On 6/14/19, Lionel Giard wrote: > I think that the only

Re: [Tagging] lanes = 0

Ok so to recap. All fairly weak reasons (except 2) here, but let's find the best tag: 1. Allroads did not favour nolanes=yes because it is a double negative 2. lanes=no is not so good because there are people who estimate the lanes value if no markings are present (see ael's message). Adding

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of non-approved values for diplomatic=?

I think that the only deprecated tag in the accepted proposal is "amenity=embassy" (which is indicated on the wiki page too). The wrong diplomatic value are just what old tagging scheme lead to. It doesn't need to be deprecated to me as it never existed officially (i think) - and it will probably

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of non-approved values for diplomatic=?

On 14/06/19 20:06, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: I was checking the pages related to the office=diplomatic proposal, which approved the tags diplomatic=embassy, diplomatic=consulate and diplomatic=liaison - I just made pages for these 3 tags and added =liaison to the key:diplomatic page. Based on the

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of non-approved values for diplomatic=?

Hi, in general, I try to avoid marking anything as deprecated. I think the term only gives people wrong ideas. If anything, try to find wording that says "today, most mappers prefer the X tag", but don't say "this tag is deprecated" except in very clear circumstances, where an overwhelming

[Tagging] Deprecation of non-approved values for diplomatic=?

I was checking the pages related to the office=diplomatic proposal, which approved the tags diplomatic=embassy, diplomatic=consulate and diplomatic=liaison - I just made pages for these 3 tags and added =liaison to the key:diplomatic page. Based on the proposal, I suspect that the other values

Re: [Tagging] Landuse=farmyard vs residential

On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 03:04, John Willis via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > > > On Jun 13, 2019, at 4:22 PM, Paul Allen wrote: > > > > Conversion of farm buildings to residential buildings is not only > possible, it's frequent in > > some parts of the world. > > Very true, but