Re: [Tagging] Tourist bus stop

what about bus stops used both by normal busses and tourism busses? I would expect highway=bus_stop as more important feature 10 Sep 2019, 21:07 by franci...@gmail.com: > Dear list, > > please find the proposal for the tag in subject: >

Re: [Tagging] Open Defecation Areas

11 Sep 2019, 01:54 by pla16...@gmail.com: > On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 at 23:41, Graeme Fitzpatrick <> graemefi...@gmail.com > > > wrote: > >> >> Would it need a multipolygon? My impression of the ODA is an open patch of >> ground in / beside a residential area. If

Re: [Tagging] Tourist bus stop

Il mer 11 set 2019, 04:39 Leif Rasmussen <354...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > My main concern is that some bus stops could be both for tourist buses and > for public buses. Using ptv2 instead, with public_transport=platform + > coach=designated or tourist_bus=designated would be easier. > Leif

Re: [Tagging] Tourist bus stop

Il mer 11 set 2019, 02:35 Joseph Eisenberg ha scritto: > Thank you for making a proposal, Francesco. > > “A tourist bus stop is a stop reserved to tourist buses.” > > The main issue is describing the term “tourist bus” clearly. > > The related wiki page Key:tourist_bus says: > > “The key

Re: [Tagging] Tourist bus stop

My main concern is that some bus stops could be both for tourist buses and for public buses. Using ptv2 instead, with public_transport=platform + coach=designated or tourist_bus=designated would be easier. Leif Rasmussen On Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 8:35 PM Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > Thank you for

Re: [Tagging] Tourist bus stop

Thank you for making a proposal, Francesco. “A tourist bus stop is a stop reserved to tourist buses.” The main issue is describing the term “tourist bus” clearly. The related wiki page Key:tourist_bus says: “The key tourist_bus=* is used to tag legal access restrictions on roads for buses that

Re: [Tagging] Open Defecation Areas

Overlapping “landuse=“ is fine when it represents reality correctly. For example, many city centres are both residential and commercial or commercial and retail, when the buildings are mixed use. Similarly, if you are micro mapping private residential lawns with landuse=grass, or residential

Re: [Tagging] Open Defecation Areas

On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 at 23:41, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Would it need a multipolygon? My impression of the ODA is an open patch of > ground in / beside a residential area. If that is the case, wouldn't it be > much simpler to just mark a new area in as landuse=o_d_a? (accept it > wouldn't be

Re: [Tagging] Open Defecation Areas

On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 at 04:09, Paul Allen wrote: > > > On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 at 18:48, Bob Kerr via Tagging < > tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > I did consider using the toilet tag, unfortunately there is no toilet and >> it would give the area a feeling of respectability. If it is piled high

Re: [Tagging] Draft proposal for Key:aerodrome

According to https://skyvector.com/airport/1S1/Eckhart-International-Airport - Eckhart "Airport" is only open to private chartered flights, and it has a grass (turf) runway, unattended, closed in winter. It's certainly not what an ordinary person would consider an "airport". It doesn't have an

Re: [Tagging] Walking & Cycling Node Network tagging: undoing the hijacking of rcn and rwn

Sorry for the delay, I meant to post this earlier. My bad! We have discussed the arguments again in the Dutch OSM forum. The Belgium OSM forum did not respond, except for vmarc who took active part in the Dutch forum discussion. The German OSM forum had some positive response but no specific

Re: [Tagging] Draft proposal for Key:aerodrome

Which is likely to cause confusion, because in the United States, an "international airport" is one that's got customs facilities. John F. Kennedy International (New York City's largest airport) and Eckhart International (a small grass strip near the Idaho-Canada border) are both considered

Re: [Tagging] Open Defecation Areas

On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 at 18:48, Bob Kerr via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: I did consider using the toilet tag, unfortunately there is no toilet and > it would give the area a feeling of respectability. If it is piled high > with plastic bags, assorted rubbish and human piss and shit

[Tagging] Tourist bus stop

Dear list, please find the proposal for the tag in subject: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:highway%3Dtourist_bus_stop the idea was born during a discussion on Talk-it and it is my

Re: [Tagging] Walking & Cycling Node Network tagging: undoing the hijacking of rcn and rwn

I see that network:type=node_network has been added to the wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:network%3Drwn=next=1897551 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:route%3Dbicycle=next=1866174 Was there consensus on this in the end? I didn't follow the whole

Re: [Tagging] Open Defecation Areas

Hi, I agree with you, that is why I need everyone’s input before making the proposal I did consider using the toilet tag, unfortunately there is no toilet and it would give the area a feeling of respectability. If it is piled high with plastic bags, assorted rubbish and human piss and shit

Re: [Tagging] "part:wikidata=*" tag proposal for multiple elements connected to the same wikidata id

10 Sep 2019, 12:06 by p...@trigpoint.me.uk: > On Monday, 9 September 2019, marc marc wrote: > >> Le 09.09.19 à 16:18, Mateusz Konieczny a écrit : >> > >> > >> > >> > 9 Sep 2019, 15:14 by pella.s...@gmail.com: >> > >> > Imho:the real problem, why we have multiple objects for >> >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Campsite properties

I fixed the image linkit didn't like the space between '=' and 'File:' On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 1:19 PM Sven Geggus wrote: > Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > > That's an interesting idea. I don't know much about this concept > > myself, so it would be better if this were kept separate. Is it

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Campsite properties

> Is it allowed to add images from Wikipedia to OSM-Wiki? Yes, and all you have to do is write image= File:Dauercamper_Asel_Sued_Edersee_20101024.JPG in the Description box, for example. I've updated the new page with the image and some more details, like that it needs to be added to a camp_site,

Re: [Tagging] Draft proposal for Key:aerodrome

"you don't know if GA is supported or not." I'm not sure how to find this out. I mean, it's obvious enough when you go to a small aerodrome and see lots of little private planes which are not branded as a part of an airline that it's general_aviation, but if you go to a big international airport

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Campsite properties

Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > That's an interesting idea. I don't know much about this concept > myself, so it would be better if this were kept separate. Is it like > renting a summer cabin, or more like having a permanent spot in a > mobile home park (eg for fixed caravans)? No this is all about

Re: [Tagging] Open Defecation Areas

You are wanting to tag something that is identifiable on-the-ground. It could be of great social value. What's not to like? The question is more about the detail rather than whether it should happen. Has there been any discussion about https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dtoilets

Re: [Tagging] "part:wikidata=*" tag proposal for multiple elements connected to the same wikidata id

pon, 9. ruj 2019. u 16:24 Mateusz Konieczny napisao je: > Monaco includes for example territorial > waters while it is not a part of the city. > City states may include also other areas > that is not a part of the city. > Then in OSM city and city-state are different things. In Wikidata we only

Re: [Tagging] Draft proposal for Key:aerodrome

On 10/09/2019 11:28, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: That seems like a bad idea because aerodrome:type is one of the ways that mappers distinguish between military and non-military airfields. military=airfield + landuse=military is the standard way to do this. I wasn't making any comment about what

Re: [Tagging] Draft proposal for Key:aerodrome

To keep things in one place, I have copied my comment on the wiki discussion page together with Josephs response here. Once concepts have been conflated, once accuracy is lost, it is impossible to recreate it. > "An international airport currently is aeroway [1]=aerodrome [2] + name [3]=* > +

Re: [Tagging] Draft proposal for Key:aerodrome

> That seems like a bad idea because aerodrome:type is one of the ways > that mappers distinguish between military and non-military airfields. military=airfield + landuse=military is the standard way to do this. ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Draft proposal for Key:aerodrome

Christoph's comment is similar to what Simon Poole said on Talk:Proposed_features/Key:aerodrome So the alternative would be to use several new property keys instead of a single key, eg: international_flights=yes/no (presence of international passenger flights) commercial_flights=yes/no (presence

Re: [Tagging] Draft proposal for Key:aerodrome

On 10/09/2019 08:35, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: It would deprecate aeroway=airstrip and aerodrome:type=* That seems like a bad idea because aerodrome:type is one of the ways that mappers distinguish between military and non-military airfields. That, combined with whether the object has an iata

Re: [Tagging] Draft proposal for Key:aerodrome

The tag aerodrome=international was meant for airports that have regularly scheduled commercial passenger flights to another country. On 9/10/19, Chris Hill wrote: > On 10 September 2019 08:35:42 BST, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: >>I've started a new proposal for Key:aerodrome. >> >>See

Re: [Tagging] Draft proposal for Key:aerodrome

On 10 September 2019 08:35:42 BST, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: >I've started a new proposal for Key:aerodrome. > >See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Key:aerodrome > >This proposal uses aerodrome=* for classification of an >aeroway=aerodrome as an international airport, other

Re: [Tagging] Draft proposal for Key:aerodrome

On Tuesday 10 September 2019, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > I've started a new proposal for Key:aerodrome. > > See > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Key:aerodrome The problem with this kind of tag is that while it can be in principle a verifiable tag - provided that the

Re: [Tagging] Open Defecation Areas

Hi, Apologies if I started this conversation on the HOT list instead of here. I have been away for a while and my protocol is rusty. I believe that Watsan will stand for Water/Sanitation. It was probably an experiment by someone new. I also stated that 850 million people open defecate, but

Re: [Tagging] Draft proposal for Key:aerodrome

> re we going to discuss this on the mailing list, or in the wiki discussion > page, or both, or what? "Both" is probably the realistic option. We can't require anyone to login to wiki.openstreetmap.org to comment on this idea, though I do think the discussion there would be easier to follow.

Re: [Tagging] "part:wikidata=*" tag proposal for multiple elements connected to the same wikidata id

On Monday, 9 September 2019, marc marc wrote: > Le 09.09.19 à 16:18, Mateusz Konieczny a écrit : > > > > > > > > 9 Sep 2019, 15:14 by pella.s...@gmail.com: > > > > Imho:the real problem, why we have multiple objects for > > "name:*" tags? ( admin_centre, label, relation, ... ) >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - appointment

The key 'opening_hours' has a free from text entry facility. I have used this where a museum is open by appointment only thus 'opening_hours="By appointment, phone "' (the ### is the phone number that I don't recall of the top of my head. I think this is more versatile than yet another

Re: [Tagging] Draft proposal for Key:aerodrome

Point of order, also with half an eye on the "tagging governance" discussion Are we going to discuss this on the mailing list, or in the wiki discussion page, or both, or what? I suggest focussing on a single platform, and placing a notification on the other platform directing readers to the

Re: [Tagging] Draft proposal for Key:aerodrome

On 10/09/19 17:35, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: I've started a new proposal for Key:aerodrome. See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Key:aerodrome This proposal uses aerodrome=* for classification of an aeroway=aerodrome as an international airport, other commercial airport,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Campsite properties

Have not stayed at a campsite that charges for showers for sometime now but many require a token, rather than coins. Phil (trigpoint) On Tuesday, 10 September 2019, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > >shower:fee=yes > > I believe "yes/no" is better for fee, since the value may change frequently. > >

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Governance

Hi Roland, I guess this is for your upcoming SotM session "New processes to agree on tagging suggestions and their interaction with the editing software available on openstreetmap.org" https://2019.stateofthemap.org/sessions/PPTHFQ/ If I were tackling this as a consultancy project I might map

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - appointment

sent from a phone > On 8. Sep 2019, at 22:11, Simon Poole wrote: > > Isn't this semantically in the end not the same as "unknown" (as in any > application would have to equate this to "you have to inquire if it is > open")? it may be the same for apps, it isn’t for mappers, “unknown” is an

[Tagging] Draft proposal for Key:aerodrome

I've started a new proposal for Key:aerodrome. See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Key:aerodrome This proposal uses aerodrome=* for classification of an aeroway=aerodrome as an international airport, other commercial airport, general aviation aerodrome, private aerodrome,