Re: [Tagging] Open Voting on Access Aisle

2019-11-15 Thread Alessandro Sarretta
Thank you Clifford, I find you proposal quite useful and relevant. There are a couple of things that are not totally clear to me: * in general, might these tags apply also to areas, rather than only ways? * I am a bit confused by /accessible_van/. Does it refer to vans instead of cars? In

[Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - U-turn

2019-11-15 Thread Michael Tsang
Dear all, I have proposed a new feature - U-turn - to mark whether U-turning is legally allowed on the highway by introducing a new key u_turn = yes / no to be applied on highway=* . This is used for routing purpose, such that when U-turn is allowed, the router can instruct the driver to

Re: [Tagging] disguised communication towers

2019-11-15 Thread Greg Troxel
Greg Troxel writes: > So for your strategy, I would say > > 1) convince mappers that this is important. (Perhaps argue that it's > more important than the vertical_smoothness tag for peopel who ride > bicycles vertically on the tower -- and yes that's a bad joke.) > > 2) wait for a

Re: [Tagging] disguised communication towers

2019-11-15 Thread Greg Troxel
Eric Theise writes: > From my morning reading it seems that entities tagged with > > tower:type=communication > tower:construction=concealed > > and either man_made=mast or man_made=tower should cough up cellphone towers > masquerading as cacti, palms, pines, flagpoles, and such. But apart

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - mimics

2019-11-15 Thread Eric Theise
Hi Graeme, Thanks for your input. The guidelines suggest keeping tag names as short as possible and underscored compound words add complexity. If this fell under the camouflage principle of "crypsis" I'd definitely use something like "blends_with" but I think "mimics" is well-understood and

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - mimics

2019-11-15 Thread Eric Theise
I've updated the proposal to incorporate Paul Allen's suggestion that the practice of using tower:construction=concealed be deprecated when a mast or tower is tagged with mimics=*. On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 2:39 PM Eric Theise wrote: > Hi Paul, > > Thanks for the quick feedback. > > On Fri, Nov

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - mimics

2019-11-15 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 16 Nov 2019 at 08:40, Eric Theise wrote: > > The first keys I came up with included "_as" – "disguised_as", > "camouflaged_as" – which was worse. Mimesis is an agreed-upon name for one > principle of camouflage so I believe "mimics" to be a rather good key. > I quite like "disguised_as"

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - mimics

2019-11-15 Thread Eric Theise
Hi Paul, Thanks for the quick feedback. On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 2:20 PM Paul Allen wrote: > On Fri, 15 Nov 2019 at 20:54, Eric Theise wrote: > >> >> I propose to introduce the key mimics to remedy this. >> > > I'm not sure "mimics" is a good key, but I can't think of a better one. >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - mimics

2019-11-15 Thread Paul Allen
On Fri, 15 Nov 2019 at 20:54, Eric Theise wrote: > > I propose to introduce the key mimics to remedy this. > I'm not sure "mimics" is a good key, but I can't think of a better one. However... > Here is an example where what the tower mimics is included in the note > field. > { > "type":

Re: [Tagging] Additional detail of Levee mapping via embankments

2019-11-15 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
I've seen the same with the Australia list. Here, "reply" go to the list; while on AU, "reply" only goes to that person, while "Reply All" goes to them & the list? Thanks Graeme On Fri, 15 Nov 2019 at 13:19, John Willis via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > The “reply-to” email

Re: [Tagging] disguised communication towers

2019-11-15 Thread Eric Theise
I've emailed the list with a Request For Comments on a key for communication masts and towers: mimics. Thanks, Eric On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 1:57 PM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > On 14. Nov 2019, at 22:04, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I don not understand

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - mimics

2019-11-15 Thread Eric Theise
Since 1992 cellphone masts and towers have been disguised as trees, cacti, and other features of the natural and built world. The suggested practice for tagging this infrastructure is to use man_made=tower or man_made=mast with tower:type=communication in combination with

[Tagging] Open Voting on Access Aisle

2019-11-15 Thread Clifford Snow
Since there has been no new discussion and I've modified the proposal to accommodate concerns on the original Draft, I'm opening the proposal up for voting. Please go to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/access_aisle to vote on the proposal. Thanks in advance, Clifford --