Re: [Tagging] Barrier=berm

On Thu, 28 Nov 2019 at 20:47, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > >- First of all when I see a both-sided sloped linear elevation I do >not know I see a berm.because it is a rarely used term > > Can you see a pile of dirt? If so, it's a berm. If it's a bricks, blocks, rocks, concrete, wooden,

Re: [Tagging] Barrier=berm

On Thu, 28 Nov 2019 at 17:58, Jan Michel wrote: > the purpose of the berm - e.g. berm = noise_barrier usage=* may fit the need ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Barrier=berm

On Thu, 28 Nov 2019 at 17:58, Jan Michel wrote: > > - We should have a defined way to tag the purpose of the berm - e.g. > berm = noise_barrier > Yes, that would be good. I'm actually just thinking that it may be better to move it to man_made= rather than barrier=, as you may get the situation

Re: [Tagging] Barrier=berm

Am Do., 28. Nov. 2019 um 15:04 Uhr schrieb Andy Townsend : > Please do explain how at rendering I can change what's in the data at > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/53.22594/-0.48389 to something more > like https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/359607456 so that at anything less > than z16 you

Re: [Tagging] Barrier=berm

On 28/11/2019 13:03, Paul Allen wrote: On Thu, 28 Nov 2019 at 12:45, Andy Townsend > wrote: Tagging 2 things to represent 1 physical feature just makes it extra-hard for anyone consuming the data. Yet we have a very similar problem with "two things, two

Re: [Tagging] Barrier=berm

I have used in past a way with only one tag: embankment=yes to map small earth walls with nothing on top. I admit that I have not checked the rendering, but this seems to me a simple solution. On Thu, 28 Nov 2019, 14:05 Paul Allen, wrote: > On Thu, 28 Nov 2019 at 12:45, Andy Townsend wrote: >

Re: [Tagging] Barrier=berm

On Thu, 28 Nov 2019 at 12:45, Andy Townsend wrote: Tagging 2 things to represent 1 physical feature just makes it extra-hard > for anyone consuming the data. > Yet we have a very similar problem with "two things, two objects." We make a tennis court surrounded by a fence two objects for good

Re: [Tagging] Barrier=berm

Am Do., 28. Nov. 2019 um 13:45 Uhr schrieb Andy Townsend : > Tagging 2 things to represent 1 physical feature just makes it extra-hard > for anyone consuming the data. They'd have to say "OK, I've got a > man_made=embankment here; now, before I decide what to do with it, I have > to see if there

Re: [Tagging] Barrier=berm

On 28/11/2019 11:42, Paul Allen wrote: On Thu, 28 Nov 2019 at 10:56, Andy Townsend > wrote: OSM Carto, as far as I'm aware * Doesn't have a concept of 2-sided embankments or a rendering for them Does it need such a concept?  I haven't tried it when

Re: [Tagging] Barrier=berm

On Thu, 28 Nov 2019 at 10:56, Andy Townsend wrote: > OSM Carto, as far as I'm aware > >- Doesn't have a concept of 2-sided embankments or a rendering for them > > Does it need such a concept? I haven't tried it when the embankment resembles an arete, but for an embankment with a plateau all

Re: [Tagging] Barrier=berm

On 28/11/2019 09:59, Paul Allen wrote: On Thu, 28 Nov 2019 at 00:23, Graeme Fitzpatrick mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com>> wrote: Question of my own - is there any particular reason that a berm couldn't just be rendered the same as a wall? That question prompts another question. Why

Re: [Tagging] Barrier=berm

I see a number of problems with the proposal - First of all when I see a both-sided sloped linear elevation I do not know I see a berm.because it is a rarely used term - Second it is ill-defined from the shape point of view: it can define a step in an earth wall and it can mean an

Re: [Tagging] Barrier=berm

On Thu, 28 Nov 2019 at 00:23, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Question of my own - is there any particular reason that a berm couldn't > just be rendered the same as a wall? > That question prompts another question. Why render it as a wall? Since a berm is a type of embankment, why not render

Re: [Tagging] Barrier=berm

How about use=* /* Answers the question: what's the use of this thing? Well, the use=* Fr gr Peter Elderson Op do 28 nov. 2019 om 09:53 schreef Martin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com>: > Am Do., 28. Nov. 2019 um 01:23 Uhr schrieb Graeme Fitzpatrick < > graemefi...@gmail.com>: > >>

Re: [Tagging] Barrier=berm

Jan Michel wrote on 11/28/19 8:56 AM: > Hi Graeme, > > On 26.11.19 03:50, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: >> Following the recent discussions of protective walls, I've created a page for >> barrier=berm https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dberm > > I think it's a good idea to have a

Re: [Tagging] Barrier=berm

Am Do., 28. Nov. 2019 um 01:23 Uhr schrieb Graeme Fitzpatrick < graemefi...@gmail.com>: > A berm, in modern usage, does indeed refer to any number of broadly > similar concepts, in that it is (usually) a simple pile of dirt, either > bare, or covered with grass. > > So how about changing the