Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Small electric vehicles - keys updated

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

> On 22. Dec 2019, at 15:34, Jan Michel  wrote:
> 
> * moped:electric - slow electric motorcycles (EU: up to 25 km/h typically)
> * mofa:electric -medium fast electric motorcycles  (EU: up to 45 km/h 
> typically)


you have these reversed, mofa is the slow version and moped the faster

Cheers Martin 
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[Tagging] Feature proposal - Approved - Telecom distribution points

[François Lacombe]

Hi all,

Voting period on telecom distribution points tagging proposal is over with
21 pros and 4 against. Approval rate is 84%
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Telecom_distribution_points

It's nice to see this value joining exchange, connection_point and
service_device as reviewed on telecom key.
Next steps, for me, will consist in making documentation and definitions
clearer for connection_point vs distribution_point as late discussion shown
needs on this point.
This will encourage mappers to seek and tag those small boxes, obviously in
public space only.

Thank you to anyone who spent time to get involved in discussions and vote

Merry Christmas everybody and see you next year @tagging :)

François
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Re: [Tagging] Tag for "tax free shopping"

[marc marc]

Hello,

boith tags look fine, except the unneeded use of a namespace
duty_free= (already exist 6 time)
tax_refund=

Regards,
Marc

Le 23.12.19 à 21:25, Hauke Stieler a écrit :
> Hi all,
> 
> so I think of creating/establishing two new tags:
> 
> shop:duty_free=
> -> Shops in airports where nobody has to pay taxes at all (those usual
> duty-free shops)
> 
> shop:tax_refund=
> -> Shops in cities where you pay taxes like in every other shop but(!)
> you can get a receipt to get a tax refund later at the airport before
> leaving the country. Usually citizens of that country/region won't be
> able to get a refund.
> 
> Should I really setup a proposal for them? Never wrote a proposal before
> and it seems a bit much for two simple tags. What is the usual workflow
> for this?
> 
> Regards
> Hauke
> 
> On 20.12.19 14:59, Hauke Stieler wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I recently found several stores (pharmacy, clothing store, jewelery and
>> others) which offer "tax free shopping". For those of you who don't know
>> it, this works as follows:
>>
>> You buy something and next to your normal receipt, you'll also get an
>> additional receipt with some tax information on it. When you travel back
>> home and come along the airport, you can hand this tax-receipt in and
>> get the taxes back.
>>
>> Not all shops are offering this service and I couldn't find any suitable
>> tag. Does such tag exist or is this something new?
>>
>> I think of something like "tax_refund=" or "tax_free=" (for shops at the
>> airport where you don't pay any taxes).
>>
>> Greetings
>> Hauke (aka hauke-stieler)
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Small electric vehicles - keys updated

[Jan Michel]

Hi Joseph,

On 23.12.19 01:00, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
small_electric_vehicle for segways and electric kick scooters seems 
confusing to me: I would imagine this including electric golf carts 
(already tagged golf_cart=yes/designated/no) and perhaps other things.

The term is borrowed from European law. If there are better alternatives
we haven't found them yet.

It’s also a bit odd that electric pedal-assist bicycles with limited top 
speed are to be tagged electric_bicycle= but faster e-bikes would be 
tagged “speed_pedelec=“ - shouldn’t it be “high_speed_electric_bicycle=“ 
or similar?
As Volker already said, both "electric bicycle" and "speed pedelec" are 
quite well-know terms in several languages in Europe.

I very much favor this over a newly made up key.




Joseph

On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 11:34 PM Jan Michel 
> wrote:


Taking the various comments and suggestions into account,
I revised some of the tags proposed and also included electric mopeds
in the proposal.


https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/ElectricBicyclesAndScooters



The current set of tags is:

* electric_bicycle - bicycles with motor assistance
* speed_pedelec - fast electric bicycles, similar to mopeds
* kick_scooter - the 'childrens style' scooter
* small_electric_vehicle - electric scooters (similar to kick
scooters),
Segway etc. These refer to a class of vehicles in European (French,
German) law
* moped:electric - slow electric motorcycles (EU: up to 25 km/h
typically)
* mofa:electric -medium fast electric motorcycles  (EU: up to 45 km/h
typically)

I hope that this set of tags is able to cope with most existing and
planned regulations and is free of ambiguities.
Please let me know your opinion and further suggestions!

Jan


On 10.11.19 18:05, Jan Michel wrote:
 > Hi,
 > up to now we don't have documented tags for small electric
vehicles like
 > bicycles and scooters. On the other hand, special access rules and
 > amenities become more and more common.
 >
 > These new keys are not only necessary for access tags, but also
intended
 > for use with any other kind of amenity like parking, shops, service,
 > charging...
 >
 > I wrote a proposal [1] to define common keywords for these vehicles.
 > Please let me know your opinion and further suggestions!
 >
 >
 > Jan
 >
 >
 > [1]
 >

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/ElectricBicyclesAndScooters

 >
 >
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