[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Utility poles

2020-09-07 Thread François Lacombe
Hi everyone, Following this sunny summer, sometimes cycling along country roads, here comes the need to reinforce the tagging of utility poles holding telecom lines. OSM already has power=pole and past proposals have shown it's not necessary to change it. Poles don't always support power lines

Re: [Tagging] Documenting historic=anchor to the historic wiki page

2020-09-07 Thread Paul Allen
On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 at 23:06, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > On 7. Sep 2020, at 23:51, Paul Allen wrote: > > > > One has a plaque saying it is the birthplace of some important figure. > > The plaque is a historic memorial, the house it is attached to is just a > > house (as is the house next

Re: [Tagging] Documenting historic=anchor to the historic wiki page

2020-09-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 7. Sep 2020, at 23:51, Paul Allen wrote: > > One has a plaque saying it is the birthplace of some important figure. > The plaque is a historic memorial, the house it is attached to is just a > house (as is the house next door). we’ll be mapping the plaque anyway (and

Re: [Tagging] Documenting historic=anchor to the historic wiki page

2020-09-07 Thread Paul Allen
On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 at 22:41, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > On 7. Sep 2020, at 23:29, Paul Allen wrote: > > > > It's a memorial or it's not. If it's not a memorial, and there just > because it looks > > nice (somebody else brought up that possibility, not me) it's artwork. > > I don’t find a

Re: [Tagging] Documenting historic=anchor to the historic wiki page

2020-09-07 Thread Paul Allen
On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 at 22:37, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > On 7. Sep 2020, at 23:23, Paul Allen wrote: > > > > To say that something is historic means that it is important or > significant > > in history. > > importance and significance are quite relative and I have the impression > you are

Re: [Tagging] Documenting historic=anchor to the historic wiki page

2020-09-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 7. Sep 2020, at 23:29, Paul Allen wrote: > > It's a memorial or it's not. If it's not a memorial, and there just because > it looks > nice (somebody else brought up that possibility, not me) it's artwork. I don’t find a definition of art, work of art, where

Re: [Tagging] Documenting historic=anchor to the historic wiki page

2020-09-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 7. Sep 2020, at 23:23, Paul Allen wrote: > > To say that something is historic means that it is important or significant > in history. importance and significance are quite relative and I have the impression you are imagining the bar much higher than what we usually

Re: [Tagging] Documenting historic=anchor to the historic wiki page

2020-09-07 Thread Paul Allen
On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 at 22:20, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > On 7. Sep 2020, at 22:15, Paul Allen wrote: > > > > Possibly tourism=artwork > > I’d much rather go for historic=anchor Why historic=anchor rather than memorial? I can understand historic=cannon as it's a standalone item. Anchors

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of individual terraced houses?

2020-09-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 7. Sep 2020, at 22:54, Oliver Simmons wrote: > > (playing devils advocate here) > but then why do `building=bungalow` and `building=semidetached_house` exist? > > Bungalows can be seen from `building:levels=1`. > https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/building=bungalow

Re: [Tagging] Documenting historic=anchor to the historic wiki page

2020-09-07 Thread Paul Allen
On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 at 21:54, Janko Mihelić wrote: > pon, 7. ruj 2020. u 22:15 Paul Allen napisao je: > >> In that case it would not be historic, just a random anchor put there >> because >> it looks pretty. Possibly tourism=artwork, but I'm not sure what would >> be a suitable artwork_type.

Re: [Tagging] Documenting historic=anchor to the historic wiki page

2020-09-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 7. Sep 2020, at 22:15, Paul Allen wrote: > > Possibly tourism=artwork I’d much rather go for historic=anchor than for tourism=artwork these are rarely public art Cheers Martin ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Documenting historic=anchor to the historic wiki page

2020-09-07 Thread Janko Mihelić
pon, 7. ruj 2020. u 22:15 Paul Allen napisao je: > In that case it would not be historic, just a random anchor put there > because > it looks pretty. Possibly tourism=artwork, but I'm not sure what would > be a suitable artwork_type. It's not really an installation or a > sculpture. > It's

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of individual terraced houses?

2020-09-07 Thread Oliver Simmons
I understand that, but if a program is given a single way, it has no understanding of surrounding geometry (e.g. alot renderers look at things one by one) (playing devils advocate here) but then why do `building=bungalow` and `building=semidetached_house` exist? Bungalows can be seen from

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of individual terraced houses?

2020-09-07 Thread Andrew Hain
Use building=house, you can deduce that they are terraced from the geometry. -- Andrew From: Oliver Simmons Sent: 07 September 2020 15:30 To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: [Tagging] Tagging of individual terraced houses? For terraced

Re: [Tagging] Documenting historic=anchor to the historic wiki page

2020-09-07 Thread Paul Allen
On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 at 21:05, Janko Mihelić wrote: > pon, 7. ruj 2020. u 21:28 Paul Allen napisao je: > >> Sounds like a memorial to me. So maybe historic=memorial + >> memorial=anchor. >> > > Anchors are often not a memorial, just an anchor put somewhere because it > looks nice. > In that case

Re: [Tagging] Documenting historic=anchor to the historic wiki page

2020-09-07 Thread Janko Mihelić
pon, 7. ruj 2020. u 21:28 Paul Allen napisao je: > Sounds like a memorial to me. So maybe historic=memorial + > memorial=anchor. > Anchors are often not a memorial, just an anchor put somewhere because it looks nice. You can search for images of "anchors on display" [1]. I guess this would be a

Re: [Tagging] Documenting historic=anchor to the historic wiki page

2020-09-07 Thread Paul Allen
On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 at 20:01, Janko Mihelić wrote: > Historic=anchor would be an anchor from a historic ship displayed as a > public memorial. An example: > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Arizona_anchor_bolin_plaza.JPG > Sounds like a memorial to me. So maybe historic=memorial +

[Tagging] Documenting historic=anchor to the historic wiki page

2020-09-07 Thread Janko Mihelić
Historic=anchor would be an anchor from a historic ship displayed as a public memorial. An example: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Arizona_anchor_bolin_plaza.JPG There aren't many of these tags right now, 38 in total. I found info on about 10 of those, and they all fitted the description

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of individual terraced houses?

2020-09-07 Thread Oliver Simmons
> I am confused. Do you want to map the whole thing as a single building=terrace, or each part separately as it’s own building=* area?I’m taking about mapping each part separately as a `building=*`. > Where would you use the tag terraced=yes or terraced=apartments?On each individual building in

[Tagging] sloped kerbs

2020-09-07 Thread Volker Schmidt
How do you tag sloped kerbs/curbs like these. (I am referring to the zebra-striped sloped concrete borders of the traffic islands) barrier=kerb and kerb=sloped ? The kerb wiki page shows

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of individual terraced houses?

2020-09-07 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
I am confused. Do you want to map the whole thing as a single building=terrace, or each part separately as it’s own building=* area? Where would you use the tag terraced=yes or terraced=apartments? On a building:part=* or on individually drawn building=house areas? -Joseph On Mon, Sep 7, 2020

Re: [Tagging] tagging drinking water of uncleaer official (signed) status

2020-09-07 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging
     >Monday, September 7, 2020 4:23 AM -05:00 from Tobias Zwick >: >  >The discussion went astray a bit, partly because I think it was not clear why >Mateusz proposed to use the drinking_water:legal=yes/no/unknown at all, if >there is already the tag drinking_water=yes/no. >Let me

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of individual terraced houses?

2020-09-07 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Sep 7, 2020, 16:30 by oliversi...@gmail.com: > Or should a proposal be made (I have no idea how these work)? > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process See also https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Any_tags_you_like (but discussing them like you started here is generally a good idea)

[Tagging] Tagging of individual terraced houses?

2020-09-07 Thread Oliver Simmons
For terraced houses `building=terrace` is used for the whole block, but there is no tag for each individual building when they are separate, the reason for this is because the terraced building could be any of the `building=*` values, a shop, a house e.t.c, it could even be a weird small church;

Re: [Tagging] tagging drinking water of uncleaer official (signed) status

2020-09-07 Thread European Water Project
In France, almost all water fountains not supplied from the residential water network are marked as "non potable" - indiscriminately of whether or not the water is drinking quality. No proper legislation exists which allows local authorities to intermittently test fountain water quality and be

Re: [Tagging] .Re: tagging drinking water of unclear official (signed)

2020-09-07 Thread Kevin Kenny
It's not US English, it's just a misspelling yielding a wrong word. The correct word is 'potable' on this side of the pond as well. On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 8:14 AM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 7. Sep 2020, at 13:52, Peter Neale wrote: > > > > I'm not arguing

Re: [Tagging] .Re: tagging drinking water of unclear official (signed)

2020-09-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 7. Sep 2020, at 13:52, Peter Neale wrote: > > I'm not arguing against "drinking water", just against "portable water" > (water that can be carried) sorry for posting in reply to you, it was meant more generally as responding to the warming up of a discussion about

Re: [Tagging] .Re: tagging drinking water of unclear official (signed)

2020-09-07 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
I'm not arguing against "drinking water", just against "portable water" (water that can be carried) Peter Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 at 11:42, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 7. Sep 2020, at 07:55, Peter Neale via Tagging wrote: I dont know

Re: [Tagging] .Re: tagging drinking water of unclear official (signed)

2020-09-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 7. Sep 2020, at 07:55, Peter Neale via Tagging > wrote: > > I dont know about the USA, but in British English, "portable" means that it > can be carried. > > If you can drink it, it is "potable". we‘ve had this discussion 10 years ago and the decision was for

Re: [Tagging] tagging drinking water of uncleaer official (signed) status

2020-09-07 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
I also thought about case where  water is commonly used as a drinking water (for example camp site in mountains), but there is no official testing or official permission or any official oversight. 7 wrz 2020, 11:22 od o...@westnordost.de: > > The discussion went astray a bit, partly because I

Re: [Tagging] tagging drinking water of uncleaer official (signed) status

2020-09-07 Thread Tobias Zwick
The discussion went astray a bit, partly because I think it was not clear why Mateusz proposed to use the drinking_water:legal=yes/no/unknown at all, if there is already the tag drinking_water=yes/no. Let me illustrate with some examples. So, these two cases are clear: * 1. There is a sign