Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Swimwear

[Illia Marchenko]

>
> Swimwear policy of the facility.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Swimwear
Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.
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Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

On Tue, 4 Oct 2022 at 22:51, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <
tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:

>
> Can we mark it as deprecated and recommend not using it?
>

Yep, I'd be happy with that.

On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 04:59, Jass Kurn  wrote:

>
> I've just noticed there is a bubbler tag being promoted? Which appears to
> be an American English term for a British English drinking fountain.
>

Possibly it is?, but as an Australian English speaker, we grew up with
water bubblers in schools & occasionally around streets in town.

Thanks

Graeme
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Re: [Tagging] Is this a drinking fountain?

[Marc_marc]

sorry for the mix english-french :) here is the msg again

Le 04.10.22 à 14:52, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging a écrit :
> I would prefer even more using a different key for both: maybe
> flow=gentle_upward_jet
> flow=downward
> would be better?

as a not-native, gentle_upward_jet is again a mix several  :
gentle (it's more a flow rate) and a flow direction.

flow=up/down or flow:dorection ?
easy, similar to what we use for other keys (incline)



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Re: [Tagging] Is this a drinking fountain?

[Marc_marc]

Le 04.10.22 à 14:52, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging a écrit :

I would prefer even more using a different key for both: maybe
flow=gentle_upward_jet
flow=downward
would be better?


as a not-native, gentle_upward_jet is again a mix several  :
gentle (qui est plutot un flow rate) et a flow direction.

flow=up/down or flow:dorection ?
easy, similar to what we use for other keys (incline)



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Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

I have introduced the bubbler tag because internet search suggested it was
a suitable term, and it works well in the sense that you can imagine what
it is about just by looking at the tag "fountain=bubbler".
In general, I suggest you take out your phone and make a picture of the
drinking fountains and link them from OSM :)

Cheers,
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Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

Am Di., 4. Okt. 2022 um 17:14 Uhr schrieb Davidoskky via Tagging <
tagging@openstreetmap.org>:

>
> *Bubbler with tap *
>
>- amenity=fountain
>- fountain=bubbler
>- drinking_water=yes
>- man_made=water_tap
>
>

they are not usually mapped as "amenity=fountain", typical tagging is:
amenity=drinking_water
additionally you can add these to make clear it is a bubbler:
fountain=bubbler
and man_made=water_tap (if you like)


>
>
> *Drinking fountain with downward jet without tap*
>
>- amenity=fountain
>- fountain=drinking
>- drinking_water=yes
>
>
again, amenity=drinking_water, fountain=drinking

the drinking_water property is not needed for amenity=drinking_water, and
will not be tagged usually.
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Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

[Minh Nguyen]

Vào lúc 11:54 2022-10-04, Jass Kurn đã viết:
I've just noticed there is a bubbler tag being promoted? Which appears 
to be an American English term for a British English drinking fountain. 
Why promote another term, and use an American English term. What was 
wrong with calling a drinking fountain a drinking fountain?


To clarify, "bubbler" is a distinctively regional term in Boston, Rhode 
Island, and Wisconsin. Elsewhere, it's either "drinking fountain" or 
"water fountain". [1]


Personally, I could live with a "bubbler" tag, because it sounds 
hilarious to me (a Midwesterner living in the West), much like calling a 
roundabout a "rotary". [2]


[1] http://dialect.redlog.net/staticmaps/q_103.html
[2] http://dialect.redlog.net/staticmaps/q_84.html

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m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us




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Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

[Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging]

Oct 4, 2022, 20:54 by jassk...@gmail.com:

> I can not agree with deleting this tag while the rest of the tagging for 
> drinking water is such a mess. It feels as if you're concentrating on an ant 
> in the corner of the room while ignoring the dancing elephant in the middle 
> of the room. 
>
I agree that it is an ant, but this tag solves exactly no problems and just 
confuses people

So I want to start from obviously good idea and proceed later to less blatantly 
obvious

This tag is not only useless, it is actively misleading and confusing about 
terminology
(and confused at least me)

Getting rid of it will also make easier to discuss other changes.
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

[Asa Hundert]

Hallo Georg,

I guess your demands are met by the proposal in current state. I'd
say, now only people that would oppose introduction of "highway=steps"
, because we can map hw=path+steps=yes can oppose "highway=scramble",
not the least, due to your nagging :) What do you think?

Convenience link
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/highway=scramble

Hungerburg

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Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

[Davidoskky via Tagging]

in my experience, small steps are more likely to succeed and are a 
good thing, especially when they go in a consistent long-term direction



I agree with Marc, man_made=drinking_fountain appears to be completely 
useless and redundant.


I see no reason against deprecating it.

If other things to improve the fountains situation can be done that 
would be great, but at least this is a start.



Do feel it should eventually be deleted, but as part of sorting out 
issues with using "fountain" and "drinking fountain" sharing part of 
the same tag. 


I don't see why drinking fountains shouldn't be a value of fountain=* if 
the key fountain exists it makes no sense to put fountains under man_made.


Drinking fountains are a particular typology of fountains.



What was wrong with calling a drinking fountain a drinking fountain?
Nothing wrong, a bubbler is a particular type of drinking fountain, one 
in which the jet of water is upwards.


You can use fountain=drinking for all the others.


We are not talking about a big number of elements, thus changes should 
not be too problematic, I have generally seen most drinking fountains 
tagged as amenity=drinking_water which is a rather unspecific tag that 
could easily be substituted by drinking_water=yes.


 * drinking_water=yes
   : 112,290
 * amenity=drinking_water
   :
   266,403 elements
 * man_made=drinking_fountain
   :
   650 elements
 * fountain=bubbler
   : 314
   elements
 * fountain=drinking
   : 265
   elements

As you can see, amenity=drinking_water is currently the most common way 
to tag this.
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Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

[Marc_marc]

Le 04.10.22 à 20:54, Jass Kurn a écrit :
I can not agree with deleting this tag while the rest of the tagging for 
drinking water is such a mess


it depend if this one is a good idea, despite the dancing elephant :)
or if it's not a good idea

in my experience, small steps are more likely to succeed and are a good 
thing, especially when they go in a consistent long-term direction




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Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

[Jass Kurn]

I can not agree with deleting this tag while the rest of the tagging for
drinking water is such a mess. It feels as if you're concentrating on an
ant in the corner of the room while ignoring the dancing elephant in the
middle of the room.

Do feel it should eventually be deleted, but as part of sorting out issues
with using "fountain" and "drinking fountain" sharing part of the same tag.
They're different entities, in the way "park" and "car park" are different.

I've just noticed there is a bubbler tag being promoted? Which appears to
be an American English term for a British English drinking fountain. Why
promote another term, and use an American English term. What was wrong with
calling a drinking fountain a drinking fountain?
As I'm writing this, I'm also looking at the wiki and realising it's even
more complex than I thought when I first started. I'll go off and read some
more, but I'm beginning to think the only solution would be depreciating
the whole subject area (not possible) and starting again.

Jass



On Tue, 4 Oct 2022 at 13:51, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <
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> I am not entirely how to solve various issues surrounding drinking water
> terminology
> (help highly welcomed!) but it is now really clear to me that
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Ddrinking_fountain
> is not helpful at all and it should be marked as deprecated
>
> - many drinking fountains are eligible for man_made=water_tap
> - it duplicates https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:fountain%3Dbubbler
> - as stated this tag is equivalent to
>   https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:fountain%3Dbubbler
>   but there are also water fountain which are not emitting
>   upward jet of water in the air
>
> So we have tag which for many (all?) features collides with better
> established tag AND it is duplicated AND it is poorly named AND it is
> rarely used
> AND it introduces confusion.
>
> Can we mark it as deprecated and recommend not using it?
> With replacement of man_made=water_tap where applicable - which is
> likely for all cases or almost all cases.
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Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

[Davidoskky via Tagging]

With replacement of man_made=water_tap where applicable  > which is 
likely for all cases or almost all cases.


and for other amenity=fountain + drinking_water=yes ?


I agree, man_made=drinking_fountain has no reason to exist.


*Bubbler with tap
*

 * amenity=fountain
 * fountain=bubbler
 * drinking_water=yes
 * man_made=water_tap

*Drinking fountain with downward jet without tap*

 * amenity=fountain
 * fountain=drinking
 * drinking_water=yes

Moreover, I feel that drinking_water=yes is redundant in this case; it 
could be advised that fountain=drinking and fountain=bubbler include 
drinking_water=yes thus making it optional in this case.
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Re: [Tagging] Is this a drinking fountain?

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

> On 4 Oct 2022, at 14:56, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging 
>  wrote:
> 
> I would prefer even more using a different key for both: maybe
> flow=gentle_upward_jet
> flow=downward
> would be better?


if it cannot be deducted from the type (or you want to be redundant), a 
specific property for this makes sense. Not sure if it is flow, because I’ve 
seen it used for continuous flow vs push button or other tap.

I would not create a type for “downward flow fountain” under the “fountain” 
key, rather something like outlet:direction or similar with up/down values 

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Re: [Tagging] Is this a drinking fountain?

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

> On 4 Oct 2022, at 14:46, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging 
>  wrote:
> 
> See for example image shown at
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:fountain%3Ddrinking


this one is an exception, it’s inside a school (access=private)

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Re: [Tagging] Is this a drinking fountain?

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

> On 4 Oct 2022, at 14:46, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging 
>  wrote:
> 
> Also, ones in Rome that I have seen mostly had downward flow.


the typical, mostly deployed types in Rome (nasone and roman_wolf) are both 
providing a method to change to upward flow (there’s a hole on top of the tube 
and when you tap the outlet the water jets out there)

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Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

[Marc_marc]

Le 04.10.22 à 14:48, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging a écrit :

Can we mark it as deprecated and recommend not using it?


yes


With replacement of man_made=water_tap where applicable  > which is likely for 
all cases or almost all cases.


and for other amenity=fountain + drinking_water=yes ?



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Re: [Tagging] Is this a drinking fountain?

[Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging]

Oct 4, 2022, 11:54 by marc_m...@mailo.com:

> upward or downward flow
>
what about

fountain=bubbler for gentle upward jet
fountain=downward_flow for things like 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Water_flowing_from_drinking_water_tap.jpg

(
I would prefer even more using a different key for both: maybe
flow=gentle_upward_jet
flow=downward
would be better?
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[Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

[Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging]

I am not entirely how to solve various issues surrounding drinking water 
terminology
(help highly welcomed!) but it is now really clear to me that
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Ddrinking_fountain
is not helpful at all and it should be marked as deprecated

- many drinking fountains are eligible for man_made=water_tap
- it duplicates https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:fountain%3Dbubbler
- as stated this tag is equivalent to 
  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:fountain%3Dbubbler
  but there are also water fountain which are not emitting
  upward jet of water in the air

So we have tag which for many (all?) features collides with better
established tag AND it is duplicated AND it is poorly named AND it is rarely 
used
AND it introduces confusion.

Can we mark it as deprecated and recommend not using it?
With replacement of man_made=water_tap where applicable - which is 
likely for all cases or almost all cases.
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Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

[Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging]

Oct 4, 2022, 00:19 by graemefi...@gmail.com:

>
> On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 19:01, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <> 
> tagging@openstreetmap.org> > wrote:
>
>>
>> or reply to this posting with link of freely licensed image, preferably 
>> already
>> uploaded to Wikimedia Commons
>>
>
> How about this one, although it is more of a fountain than a tap.
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Non_Potable_Water-01%2B_(489656009).jpg
>
This one seems to be flowing continuously, without user control.

So likely does not qualify as a water tap?

(at least I hope so)

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Re: [Tagging] Is this a drinking fountain?

[Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging]

Oct 4, 2022, 11:21 by dieterdre...@gmail.com:

> Am Di., 4. Okt. 2022 um 11:08 Uhr schrieb Davidoskky via Tagging <> 
> tagging@openstreetmap.org> >:
>
>> > I wouldn't call this a "drinking fountain," since I understand that term 
>> > to mean the water flows upwards
>>  >   COULD drink from it, if I were to cup my hands and bring them to my 
>> lips, even as that is inefficient, if I were really thirsty, I could do it.
>>  In my country, and most countries I visited, fountains providing 
>>  drinking water with the specific purpose of letting people drink have a 
>>  downward flow.
>>  
>>
>
>
> I can confirm this from my experience, I have been mapping thousands of 
> drinking fountains in the past 14 years, and only 3 or 4 of those found 
> outside had an upward flow. This refers to Italy (lots of drinking fountains) 
> and Germany (drinking fountains are quite rare), and also (limited 
> experience) to France.
>
> You don't have to drink from your hands, you can bow and drink with your 
> mouth if you don't have a glass or bottle.
>
Also, ones in Rome that I have seen mostly had downward flow.

In Poland both variants are popular.

See for example image shown at
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:fountain%3Ddrinking
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Re: [Tagging] Is this a drinking fountain?

[Marc_marc]

Hello,

Le 04.10.22 à 10:08, stevea a écrit :

I wouldn't call this a "drinking fountain," since I understand that term to 
mean the water flows upwards


as for the forest saga [1], I think it is illusory to hope that all 
contributors and users of the data will be able to see the same 
subtleties in the choice of the main tag

in my opinion, the only solution is to have one tag per feature
decorative or not (probably the choice of the main tag)
potable or not
upward or downward flow
allows to fill a gourd, a bottle or not

[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Forest#Which_tag_should_be_used?

Regards,
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Re: [Tagging] Is this a drinking fountain?

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

Am Di., 4. Okt. 2022 um 11:08 Uhr schrieb Davidoskky via Tagging <
tagging@openstreetmap.org>:

> > I wouldn't call this a "drinking fountain," since I understand that term
> to mean the water flows upwards
> >   COULD drink from it, if I were to cup my hands and bring them to my
> lips, even as that is inefficient, if I were really thirsty, I could do it.
> In my country, and most countries I visited, fountains providing
> drinking water with the specific purpose of letting people drink have a
> downward flow.
>
>

I can confirm this from my experience, I have been mapping thousands of
drinking fountains in the past 14 years, and only 3 or 4 of those found
outside had an upward flow. This refers to Italy (lots of drinking
fountains) and Germany (drinking fountains are quite rare), and also
(limited experience) to France.

You don't have to drink from your hands, you can bow and drink with your
mouth if you don't have a glass or bottle.

Cheers,
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Re: [Tagging] Is this a drinking fountain?

[Davidoskky via Tagging]

I wouldn't call this a "drinking fountain," since I understand that term to 
mean the water flows upwards
  COULD drink from it, if I were to cup my hands and bring them to my lips, 
even as that is inefficient, if I were really thirsty, I could do it.
In my country, and most countries I visited, fountains providing 
drinking water with the specific purpose of letting people drink have a 
downward flow.


Fountains with an upward flow are generally found within buildings and 
rarely in the streets in my experience.


I am an avid user of fountains to drink in the streets and I definitely 
do use (and prefer) the ones with a downward flow.



I do agree these two typologies of fountains are different and maybe it 
would make sense to differentiate them in the tagging (as it is being 
done now: drinking vs bubbler).


I still feel that fountains with a downward flow that are placed there 
specifically to provide drinking water to people should be called 
drinking fountains or something similar.


I do not include in this definition fountains which provide drinking 
water, but whose supposed main scope is providing water for washing 
clothes, irrigation or such things.



For example, take a look at this fountain, the whole purpose is to drink 
from it. It does provide the option of having an upward stream, but by 
default the water is flowing down.


https://duomo24.it/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/17356812296_2f709a02f1_b-640x871.jpg


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[stevea]

Yeah, this "lion spitting" non-potable water is what I might describe as a 
"decorative fountain fixture," not a "water tap" (no valve or flow control) and 
isn't drinkable (not a "drinking fountain," but it IS a "fountain") because the 
sign warns the water isn't safe to drink.

With much of Earth suffering from drought (or floods!) with wacky climate 
changes (I've lived long enough to see real changes in less than one lifetime — 
redwood forests are literally dying all around me!), I'm actually glad to see 
it when luxuries / extravagancies like fountains are using reclaimed / 
non-potable water:  it's the least they can do.

I was initially surprised at how confusing water tap, fountain, bubbler and all 
of this has been, but as we've teased it apart, there really are a great many 
subtle issues going on here.  And if English isn't your first language, wow, 
even tougher.  (I struggle to speak four other languages; being multi-lingual 
isn't easy for everybody).  If we keep answering enough specific questions from 
a wide variety of people about a wide variety of slightly different aspects of 
"water taps," I think we can eventually get somewhere.  We're doing OK.

On Oct 3, 2022, at 3:19 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick  wrote:
> How about this one, although it is more of a fountain than a tap.
> 
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Non_Potable_Water-01%2B_(489656009).jpg

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Re: [Tagging] Is this a drinking fountain?

[stevea]

On Oct 4, 2022, at 12:51 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4/10/22 08:31, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>> Am Mo., 3. Okt. 2022 um 10:07 Uhr schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>:
>> I don't think this is a drinking fountain, another mapper does.. what is 
>> your opinion? 
>> 
>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/09/Water_flowing_from_drinking_water_tap.jpg/375px-Water_flowing_from_drinking_water_tap.jpg

I wouldn't call this a "drinking fountain," since I understand that term to 
mean the water flows upwards (usually in a short arced jet of water maybe 1 cm 
wide) to my lips, rather than pointing (and therefore flowing) downward, like 
this does.  I WOULD call this a "water tap" or a "spigot," or a "faucet."  But 
"pointing downwards" means "not a drinking fountain."  I COULD drink from it, 
if I were to cup my hands and bring them to my lips, even as that is 
inefficient, if I were really thirsty, I could do it.  If I had a hydration 
bottle, easiest (in this circumstance, presented with this water tap) would be 
to simply fill up my bottle and drink from it.

Could I drink from it DIRECTLY?  Sure, if I were to squat and contort myself so 
my head is upside down and I placed my lips under the flow, but it would be 
quite awkward.  So, "not a drinking fountain."

>> IMHO it is. There is even a picture showing a glass of water, one of the 
>> typical symbols for potable water.
>> 
> 
> To me the word 'drinking fountain' means a water source I can drink from 
> directly. without the use of a cup, glass, hands etc .. This may be cultural? 

I agree with this:  "drink from it directly" and "without a cup, glass, hands, 
bottle...", now you are describing a "drinking fountain."  I think you've got 
it right.
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Re: [Tagging] Is this a drinking fountain?

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

Am Di., 4. Okt. 2022 um 10:00 Uhr schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>:

> To me the word 'drinking fountain' means a water source I can drink from
> directly. without the use of a cup, glass, hands etc .. This may be
> cultural?
>
>
>

you can drink directly from the fountain in the picture. It's not the most
comfortable situation, but it is surely doable.
This fountain is clearly set up for one purpose: let people get water to
drink, so in my book, this is a drinking fountain.

Cheers,
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Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

[Warin]

On 3/10/22 23:26, Volker Schmidt wrote:
A practical comment from an end user: it is helpful to know if a 
drinking-water point can be used to fill water bottles. Bubblers are 
tricky in that regard.

True, but it can be done.


BTW: a shower in many parts of the world may not "waste" drinking 
water, for example by using rain water.


In some parts of the world rain water is prized. The showers at William 
Creek Hotel, South Australia use bore water, rich in salt. Your towel 
will need a wash after drying yourself, the experienced skip the showers 
there unless your very dirty.




On Mon, 3 Oct 2022, 13:47 Warin, <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:

An interesting collective of comments on 'bubbler' from Australia


https://www.macquariedictionary.com.au/resources/aus/word/map/search/word/bubbler/The%20Riverina/


On 1/10/22 11:03, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>
> sent from a phone
>
>> On 1 Oct 2022, at 02:38, stevea  wrote:
>>
>> There's water_tap, there's fountain (water fountains, same as
drinking fountains / bubblers, not the same as big fountains in
the park or Las Vegas), there's bubblers, are we (largely?) on the
same page about these?!  Good discussion so far!
>
> there is also a whole tagging scheme for all of this.
>
> amenity=drinking_water
> fountain=drinking/bubbler/…
> drinking_water=yes/no/…
> man_made=water_tap
> amenity=watering_place
> amenity=fountain
> …
>
> the tags can be combined to get to a useful description.
>
> FWIW, the water tap tag is often used for water that is not
potable (because otherwise the standard is amenity=drinking_water


amenity=drinking_water does not signify a tap, nor a bubbler nor a
stream, nor a spring nor a pond .. it could be any of those and
more ..
a 'well' for instance.

All amenity=drinking_water implies is 'drinking_water=yes', and
hopefully the legal status too.


Only ~16% of man_made=water_tap carry the tag 'drinking_water=no'. I
don't think that supports the comment 'often used for water that
is not
potable'.

See
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/man_made%3Dwater_tap#combinations

for more.


A bubbler would normally be drinking water and have a tap. A
shower too
would normally be drinking water and have one or more taps. I don't
think that the tag 'man_made=water_tap' should be applied to these
things.


A web comparison of 'bubbler' vs 'drinking  fountain'

https://www.dictionary.com/compare-words/bubbler-vs-water%20fountain?root=bubbler



I do like the distinction that a bubbler 'spouts water' where as a
drinking fountain 'supplies water'. It is the "upward" 'spout' that
makes human drinking easier.




Tagging combinations can get overly verbose?


man_made=water_tap
drinking_water=yes
material=brass

should not need added tags to further describe the water  .. such as

amenity=drinking_water ... I think this is just tagging for the
render, possibly necessary for some.

And then adding

fountain=drinking ... adds no new information?






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Re: [Tagging] Is this a drinking fountain?

[Warin]

On 4/10/22 08:31, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:

Am Mo., 3. Okt. 2022 um 10:07 Uhr schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>:

I don't think this is a drinking fountain, another mapper does..
what is your opinion?


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/09/Water_flowing_from_drinking_water_tap.jpg/375px-Water_flowing_from_drinking_water_tap.jpg




IMHO it is. There is even a picture showing a glass of water, one of 
the typical symbols for potable water.




To me the word 'drinking fountain' means a water source I can drink from 
directly. without the use of a cup, glass, hands etc .. This may be 
cultural?



Note not a question of potable water/drinking water, a question of what 
is a 'drinking fountain'.
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