Re: [Tagging] Xxzme edit of wiki proposed features page voting

2015-09-18 Thread Clifford Snow
What page exactly? On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > With no discussion on the relevant talk page .. > > This page has been labelled for deletion. > > As I use this page to check for any new proposals up for voting it forms > an essential part of my voting

Re: [Tagging] Elevation and height on vertical features

2016-01-08 Thread Clifford Snow
That could be someone converting from feet to meters. On Jan 8, 2016 10:32 AM, "Tom Pfeifer" wrote: > Colin Smale wrote on 2016/01/08 17:47: > >> How did all the elevation data get into OSM in the first place? >> > > GPS is notoriously bad at determining

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalk Tagging for Routing

2015-11-24 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Philip Barnes wrote: > They are not matching reality, can cause long detours and poor routing > unless the mapper provides a lot of connections to the road. Remember > normal pedestrians can cross wherever they want. > That is true, but

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalk Tagging for Routing

2015-11-24 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Tobias Knerr wrote: > Sure, but the sidewalk attribute is essential for other, much more basic > use cases that separate ways fail to serve. > Can you elaborate on why separate ways fail to serve? > > > I don't think relations are the

Re: [Tagging] Proposed Feature Adoption

2015-11-27 Thread Clifford Snow
Can you save us all a lot of time and provide the link to the proposal? Thanks, clifford On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Dominic Coletti wrote: > Hi all, > > I have proposed a new tag for tagging adoption agencies: > office=adoption_agency. It is currently in "Draft"

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalk Tagging for Routing

2015-11-24 Thread Clifford Snow
Thanks everyone for the input. As much as I like the concept of using the sidewalk attribute to the road, it doesn't seem like it is all that useful for adding kerb slope. It wasn't pointed out, but one additional problem with using the sidewalk attribute is that a new mapper will likely not look

[Tagging] Sidewalk Tagging for Routing

2015-11-23 Thread Clifford Snow
I'm working with a local non-profit to tag sidewalks for wheelchair [1] accessibility. Tagging sidewalks is usually done by either drawing in a new way and often parallel to roads or tagging the highway with sidewalk=left/right/both/none. Either of these produce acceptable results for normal

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalk Tagging for Routing

2015-11-23 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Bryan Housel wrote: > I don’t really buy the “mapping sidewalks as part of the road makes > routing easier" argument, but I don’t work on routing software so maybe > there really is something complicated about routing that I am unaware of.

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalk Tagging for Routing

2015-11-24 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 5:24 AM, John Willis wrote: > Jaywalking will get you a bored policeman giving you a ticket in Tokyo. > > They pride themselves in people who follow the rules and wait for > crosswalks and such. > Seattle is one of the few cities in the US that actively

Re: [Tagging] landuse=farmland and highway=track

2016-01-11 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > Sometimes as I labor over doing these areas correctly I wonder if someday > it will all be made obsolete. I don't know when or if it will happen but I > have to think that some point in the future OSM will employ

Re: [Tagging] Art galleries/museums

2016-01-25 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > The wiki defines the tag tourism=gallery as 'an area or typically a > building that displays a variety of visual art exhibitions' [1]. This > is an officially approved tag [2]. In addition, the wiki page on >

Re: [Tagging] Tagging problem for a river running in a culvert below a track / wiki votes enforcement

2016-01-26 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 11:14 AM, David Marchal wrote: > Indeed; here comes the picture: http://1drv.ms/1ZQJCxT Hendrikklaas told > me by a private message "Simple tagging is tunnel=culvert-bridge and add > layer=-1 to avoid crossing conflicts. Or leave it just >

Re: [Tagging] Tagging problem for a river running in a culvert below a track / wiki votes enforcement

2016-01-26 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > layer=-1 to me says this is below natural ground level. And here that is > not the case - the road is above natural ground level and that should be > tagged layer=1 .. to be absolutely technically correct. > > But many use

Re: [Tagging] building=yes for multiple building

2016-03-19 Thread Clifford Snow
I used to work in the telecom field. We often did lateral additions to the building. Many times different entrances would have different addresses. Because the buildings were different heights it is difficult to determine where one building ended and another started. For example the CenturyLink

Re: [Tagging] Tagging natural or historic regions

2016-03-27 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I agree that a rough polygon seems better than a node because it allows to > estimate the size (a new relation datatype would even be better, like a > collection of (existing/already mapped) things inside

Re: [Tagging] Tagging natural or historic regions

2016-03-27 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > well, this didn't prevent 12% of mappers to add neighborhoods as areas > anyway: http://taginfo.osm.org/tags/place=neighbourhood > The discussion was around neighborhoods that did not have a clear boundary,

Re: [Tagging] Tagging natural or historic regions

2016-03-27 Thread Clifford Snow
Fuzzy boundaries do have their place. Currently we use sharp boundaries for landuse, but often the boundary is really fuzzy. A wooded area would be a good example of a where a fuzzy boundary might be employed. But the fuzziness of a wooded area may only be a few meters. The fuzziness of

Re: [Tagging] Mapping pergolas/arbors

2016-05-17 Thread Clifford Snow
It makes sense to include type=pergola with the tags to help find them. Sent from my Android phone. On May 17, 2016 10:41 AM, "Martin Koppenhoefer" <dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > Il giorno 17 mag 2016, alle ore 16:40, Clifford Sn

Re: [Tagging] Roads with no speed limits

2016-08-28 Thread Clifford Snow
Hans, Is there a state law that applies? Clifford On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Hans De Kryger wrote: > Here in Phoenix Arizona more than half the freeway off ramps have no > listed speed limit. Does (maxspeed=none) work? I've worked hard here in the > valley

Re: [Tagging] Forestry/logging

2017-04-09 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 8:50 PM, Vao Matua wrote: > This is an interesting discussion. As a tree farmer and professional > forester I am offended by the suggestion that a harvested area is different > landuse from areas that are in other stages of forest growth. > I

Re: [Tagging] Forestry/logging

2017-04-09 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I would also like to know when a harvest is planed, so I can avoid the > area when that is taking place (traffic, noise and dust). > > Where an area has been clear felled, replanted and is now thick.. they > usually do a

Re: [Tagging] Why is this building not rendered?

2017-04-15 Thread Clifford Snow
I agree with Warin's recommended tagging, but W. Harry Davis Academy [1] renders and it's tagged the same way. I'd open a ticket or ask on IRC. [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/44.98127/-93.29903 On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 10:40 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Way: Peter Hobart

Re: [Tagging] Tagging cannabis growing facilities

2017-03-12 Thread Clifford Snow
Dave, I'd be concerned about tagging cannabis grow operation after the new attorney general's comments. I live in Washington state. Cannabis shops are well known, but not the grow operation. I assume because they are regulated by the state that the Feds could find them. But I'd rather not make it

Re: [Tagging] Names containing abbreviations that are the official name

2017-07-25 Thread Clifford Snow
Saint Paul - but that certainly is an exception. I was using a garmin gps device to navigate about 4 years ago. As I entered Mount Vernon, WA the voice called it Mountain Vernon. Albert Pundt suggestion to use offical_name or name_official would help. But keeping with OSM ground truth, we could

Re: [Tagging] Simplify building:part areas

2017-08-17 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Javier Sánchez Portero < javiers...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I am thinking in ways to reduce the complexity that introduces the mapping > of parts of buildings. For example: > > * If one part is inscribed within a larger one, can I use simple ways > overlapped and

Re: [Tagging] toilets:wheelchair or wheelchair_toilet (Both iD presets)

2017-05-14 Thread Clifford Snow
It looks like iD is pulling in data from taginfo when manually adding a tag. When searching for wheelchair, iD only offers a point object, which is correct. We don't tag wheelchairs, we tag objects that have wheelchair attributes. Clifford On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Dave F

Re: [Tagging] Evacuation Routes

2017-05-09 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Eric Christensen wrote: > The current tagging system is likely not being rendered by any > software out there and seems to be a one-off. To me this *should* be > a type of route which would show direction and, perhaps, the type of >

Re: [Tagging] toilets:wheelchair or wheelchair_toilet (Both iD presets)

2017-05-15 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:01 AM, Dave F wrote: > As Wheelmap only displays a subset of all establishments people adding > data are using iD. Would it big a big problem if 'toilets:wheelchair' & > wheelchair:description were added to the defaults. I agree - adding

Re: [Tagging] Unofficial name change of "Lake Calhoun" in Minneapolis, Minnesota

2017-06-08 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 7:04 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > However, I don't think you should use the name_1 tag. There has been > endless discussion on this list about the uses of tags having numerical > suffixes either with underscores or colons, and I believe that

Re: [Tagging] Unofficial name change of "Lake Calhoun" in Minneapolis, Minnesota

2017-06-08 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 4:50 PM, Tom Hardy wrote: > Huh. That one flew right by me. Noted. Now I have to learn to pronounce > it. Me too. Next time I'm in Minneapolis I don't want to see like a tourist and pronounce it incorrectly. FYI - We "renamed" our county because

Re: [Tagging] Unofficial name change of "Lake Calhoun" in Minneapolis, Minnesota

2017-06-08 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Tom Hardy wrote: > Lake Calhoun is the subject > of > local discussion due to racist associations of the word "Calhoun". I know > a > name change has been promoted, but I have no further details. >

Re: [Tagging] Mapping Attenuation Ponds / Sustainable Drainage schemes

2017-05-07 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Steve Brook wrote: > Many new UK housing estates are required to be built with Attenuation > Ponds / Sustainable Drainage schemes as part of their development. These > are to control rain water runoff during storms and consist of a pond >

Re: [Tagging] Setting a preferred routing

2017-09-17 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 4:10 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > Hi, > I came across an interesting routing problem the other day. A section of > the Richardson Highway in Alaska was relocated in 2015 by the Alaska DOT in > anticipation of erosion or flooding by the nearby Delta

Re: [Tagging] Setting a preferred routing

2017-09-17 Thread Clifford Snow
The old hwy looks like it is being torn apart in a few area looking at the Digital Globe standard imagery. Track may be more appropriate. On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 7:27 PM, Hans De Kryger wrote: > DigitalGlobe Standard Imagery has the new road. Also we have a more up to

Re: [Tagging] RFC: Defaults are paramount, abandoning Proposed_features/ is a HUGE mistake

2017-09-01 Thread Clifford Snow
I have been following this discussion on default maxspeed tagging. Searching the wiki hasn't been helpful. There is an inactive proposal [1], a wiki page on country default speeds [1] but nothing definitive on how to map. The default scheme seems to be a reasonable approach for jurisdictions that

Re: [Tagging] Park vs national park

2017-11-12 Thread Clifford Snow
I suspect its just a misunderstanding of how to tag national parks. I would leave a changeset note pointing them to the wiki on how to tag national parks. On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Daniel Koć wrote: > It looks like some people tag national parks and similar natural >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Telecom local netwoks

2018-06-09 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 5:57 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Francois > > I'm a little bit confused over some of your definitions? > > You say man_made=telephone_exchange is to be replaced with > telecom=central_office, but then also say that a telecom=central_office "is > a small dedicated

Re: [Tagging] A new Tag for "helicopter services"?

2018-06-18 Thread Clifford Snow
office=air_charter should fit. The ones around here offer both fixed wing and helicopter services. With office=air_charter you could also add air_charter=helicopter Clifford On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 6:06 AM gorgonz wrote: > I'm looking for a tag, that describes an office, that offers

Re: [Tagging] tagging religion-based access

2018-06-29 Thread Clifford Snow
Another alternative, without having to introduce a new value, would be access=designated. On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 11:44 AM Stephen Doerr wrote: > How about: > > amenity=place_of_worship > religion=muslim > access=adherents > > ? > > > On 29 June 2018, at 19:36, Mateusz Konieczny > wrote: > > >

Re: [Tagging] iD presets

2018-06-19 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:52 PM Christoph Hormann wrote: > On Tuesday 19 June 2018, Bryan Housel wrote: > <> > > > It’s fine for people to keep tagging these but I probably wouldn't > > add a preset for this in iD. > > While i think i kind of understand your motivation here, that you think >

Re: [Tagging] Canoe route

2018-06-30 Thread Clifford Snow
I'd like to suggest not creating a very specific tag like route=canoe, instead use something more general that would apply to more water crafts like kayaks, small boats, canoes, and rafts. route=marine_trail would be more fitting. Related tag could include motorized=(yes/no). Kayaking around my

Re: [Tagging] building = house vs detached.

2018-07-22 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 9:51 PM Jmapb wrote: > > I know that in the USA, it's very common to see detached houses tagged > as building=house, and there have been lots of mappers and imports of > house footprints using this tag. Possibly related to the fact that the > term "detached" is not used

Re: [Tagging] no_u_turn restrictions for every entry/exit into a roundabout when the way is split because of physical separation?

2018-04-04 Thread Clifford Snow
I don't see any changeset comments in either of the two you referenced. I would suggest adding a changeset comment to get their attention. You can also look on their github page to see what they are working on. https://github.com/Microsoft/Open-Maps/issues Best, Clifford On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at

Re: [Tagging] Flower fields as tourism attraction

2018-04-09 Thread Clifford Snow
In John Wills original post he talked about tulip farms. These are tourist attractions around me, but really it's about farming. Around me they plant tulips to harvest the bulbs with a side business of tourism. Farming is different than gardens. Both are valid. Clifford -- @osm_seattle

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shop=cannabis

2018-03-16 Thread Clifford Snow
Russ - Looks good. We have Cannabis shops opening left and right in Washington State. I've only mapped the one I visit but need to get out and "map" the rest. Tough job. Clifford On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 3:27 PM, wrote: > Greetings tagging list, > > > > I got a little

Re: [Tagging] Parking Fees

2018-03-23 Thread Clifford Snow
I just parked in the Triangle Parking for the UW Medical Center in Seattle, WA. The first 30 minutes are free. They also have a flat rate after 5pm of $5.00 although it's not listed on their website. https://www.uwmedicine.org/uw-medical-center/campus/directions There are a number of parking

Re: [Tagging] Canoe route

2018-06-28 Thread Clifford Snow
Dave, When you add a ferry route, route=ferry to a way it renders. You might want to tag the water route as route=canoe then create a relation that covers the entire route including the water portion and the portaging sections in the overall route? That the strategy used to map highway routes

Re: [Tagging] nautical channels

2018-06-28 Thread Clifford Snow
Have you checked out OpenSeaMap.org and their related wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenSeaMap? It might get you started. Clifford On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 11:19 AM Volker Schmidt wrote: > > How to map a nautical channel [1] ? > > > [1]

[Tagging] amenity=clinic or healthcare=clinic

2018-10-17 Thread Clifford Snow
When reviewing a new users first edits, I noticed they use bot amenity=clinic and healthcare=clinic. I was surprised to see both are document on the wiki - amenity=clinic [1] and healthcare=clinic [2] They seem redundant. Should both exist or should amenity=clinic be deprecated? (I like the

[Tagging] Wastewater Plants

2018-10-26 Thread Clifford Snow
I'd like to expand tagging of wastewater treatment plants by adding in clarifiers and digesters to the man_made=wastewater_plant wiki page. This came about as I was editing an area with a wastewater treatment facility. I didn't know what the various parts of the facility were called. A friend

Re: [Tagging] Wastewater Plants

2018-10-26 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 2:36 PM François Lacombe wrote: > Hi > > That's a good idea, other components of wastewater treatement plants > should be mapped the same way > Nevertheless, man_made isn't appropriate for that. > > wastewater=* or at least water=* should be used for such values,

Re: [Tagging] Wastewater Plants

2018-10-27 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 7:46 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Would you also change the main man_made=wastewater_plant listing? > > Maybe wastewater=plant / facility? > > If we man_made=wastewater_plant didn't exist, then I would propose a new key of wastewater=* similar to the power=*. At this

Re: [Tagging] Wastewater Plants

2018-10-27 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 6:05 AM Paul Allen wrote: > > It has the disadvantage that it doesn't make sense. At least not to me, > as a native speaker of > British English (which is the normal language for defining OSM tags) and > as somebody who > doesn't work in sanitation. Maybe a British

Re: [Tagging] landuse for government offices ?

2018-09-20 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 1:39 AM Colin Smale wrote: > Maybe it's just me, but I really can't understand why landuse for > government functions needs its own tagging. The buildings are often > indistinguishable from commercial properties - what is different is that > the occupier is some statutory

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boundary=aboriginal_lands

2018-11-26 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 12:58 PM Kevin Kenny wrote: > On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 7:40 PM Alan McConchie > wrote: > >> Should we use the single tag boundary=aboriginal_lands for these areas? >> Or should we deprecate that tag (in other words, reject the proposal) and >> instead use

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

2019-01-10 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 3:49 PM Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > Ditches are also used to drain excess water. > > In the USA we have irrigation ditches in dry areas and drainage ditches in > wet areas. > > Joseph - I live in rainy western Washington. We have drainage ditches that are used for both.

Re: [Tagging] Mapping language borders, tagging offical languages?

2018-09-15 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 9:24 PM Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > If it's necessary, I'm willing to make a proposal to change aboriginal / > native lands to an administrative boundary, without an admin_level > Would that solve the problem? > > Please don't suggest changing aboriginal lands tag. I'm

Re: [Tagging] Telephone exchange

2018-09-16 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 3:50 AM Simon Poole wrote: > > Wasn't there just a longish discussion about this, and that its origin > goes back to marketing language used by Bell?- As a former Bell System employee I can tell you we used the term central office to describe buildings that contained a

Re: [Tagging] landuse for government offices ?

2018-09-17 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 10:34 AM OSMDoudou < 19b350d2-b1b3-4edb-ad96-288ea1238...@gmx.com> wrote: > Hello, > > The "landuse=commercial" page [1] says "area may consists of offices, > administration", whereas the "landuse" page [2] says "Government services > and businesses should not use this

Re: [Tagging] landuse for government offices ?

2018-09-18 Thread Clifford Snow
I would accept civic_admin as well. Markus - do you want to revive the proposal? I'd like to see this become a approved tag. On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 1:15 PM OSMDoudou < 19b350d2-b1b3-4edb-ad96-288ea1238...@gmx.com> wrote: > I'll go for civic_admin. Sounds specific enough. Thx. > > >

Re: [Tagging] Mapping of indigenous sacred / ceremonial sites

2019-04-02 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 2:29 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > There has been a recent discussion on the Australia list regarding mapping > of sites that may be considered sacred by the indigenous peoples of that > area > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2019-April/012538.html , > &

Re: [Tagging] Mapping curb (kerb) lines as the home of curb, parking, etc information

2019-03-04 Thread Clifford Snow
I recall seeing a lightning talk at the 2016 State of the Map US in Seattle about mapping curb lines. Lou Huang gave a talk "Representing streets in OSM with Curblines" [1] which proposed mapping streets from curb to curb as polygons if I recall correctly. (Unfortunately I couldn't find a video of

Re: [Tagging] Mapping curb (kerb) lines as the home of curb, parking, etc information

2019-03-04 Thread Clifford Snow
For anyone interested in listening to Lou Huang's talk, I found it on Youtube. It starts at about 42:00 and ends at 48:00 [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOGsy9BFJ5Y On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 4:02 PM Nick Bolten wrote: > > Can we please first define a solution (e.g. a relation) for connecting

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal Approved - boundary=aboriginal_lands

2019-03-17 Thread Clifford Snow
> In the intervening years, tagging native reservations with >> boundary=protected_area + protect_class=24 has also gained popularity. This >> tag combination seems to be popular in South America, Australia, and also >> in parts of the United States. I can't find any evidence for

Re: [Tagging] man_made=storage_tank for open containers?

2019-02-08 Thread Clifford Snow
I did create new thread about including other features in wastewater treatment facilities. Unfortunately I have been side track on other issues, not necessarily OSM issue, but life in general. I do plan to continue exploring how to tag the various features in wastewater treatment facilities in

Re: [Tagging] Medicine Disposal

2019-02-16 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 2:37 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Here waste boxes for syringes tend to be lables 'sharps' .. I think that > is an Americanizm. Any UK experience? > > I like how this has expanded to include disposal of syringes. The original post was about disposing of

[Tagging] Medicine Disposal

2019-02-14 Thread Clifford Snow
How should sites that offer drop box disposal for unneeded medicine be tagged? Typical locations would include pharmacys, clinics, hospitals, and law enforcement buildings. I've thought about using the tag amenity=waste + waste=medicine Any better suggestions? Thanks in advance, Clifford --

Re: [Tagging] Medicine Disposal

2019-02-15 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 10:59 AM Markus wrote: > On Fri, 15 Feb 2019, 01:50 Clifford Snow >> >> I've thought about using the tag amenity=waste + waste=medicine >> > > According to our wiki it's waste=drugs (only 21 uses, but still more than >

Re: [Tagging] Medicine Disposal

2019-02-14 Thread Clifford Snow
Yes, a typo on my part. Sent from my Android phone. On Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 5:23 PM Martin Koppenhoefer > > > > sent from a phone > > On 15. Feb 2019, at 01:49, Clifford Snow > wrote: > > > > I've thought about using the tag amenity=waste + waste=medici

Re: [Tagging] How to tag sidewalk slides

2019-05-16 Thread Clifford Snow
I've run into a bunch of similar issues, where they just use asphalt to make an incline to the street level. I've been tagging them as kerb=lowered. It probably isn't exactly correct, but it does tell a wheelchair users that they can reach the street level. (Assuming the incline isn't too steep of

Re: [Tagging] Filter bubbles in OSM

2019-05-24 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 1:01 PM Paul Allen wrote: > > Have you tried running to the teacher? That's a third option you could > try. Tell the teacher that > poopy-head Paul called you a poopy-head and calling people a poopy-head is > bad and that's > why Paul is a poopy-head. > > Now you can

Re: [Tagging] Non-orthogonal crossing=* tag proposals: crossing=marked/unmarked vs crossing:markings=yes/no

2019-05-24 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 6:27 PM Nick Bolten wrote: > Well, now I'm having trouble finding any real regulations saying so, so > take that with a grain of salt. I think someone from Austin, TX told me > that once... > > I believe the primary stated purpose of bars on a crosswalk is increased >

Re: [Tagging] Tagging a site with "Luxury Lodges"

2019-05-23 Thread Clifford Snow
I the US we call them manufactured homes. They are trucked to the site, often split lengthwise into two pieces. Once on site, they place them on a foundation then remove the wheels from underneath. Most are relatively inexpensive to purchase. The real money make is the owner of the land that rents

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - crossing=marked

2019-05-08 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 2:48 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Now we may (yet again!) be getting caught up in the > one-word-different-meanings-worldwide saga, but, in Australia at least, > "zebra" crossings (parallel alternating black & white stripes crossing the > road) are controlled - they

Re: [Tagging] Handicap Parking Access Aisles

2019-05-01 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 9:13 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > highway=footway wheelchair=yes ... would be in keeping with present > tagging of wheelchairs in OSM. ??? > wheelchair=yes doesn't capture the specific nature of the access_aisle. Most any footway could be wheelchair=yes,

Re: [Tagging] Handicap Parking Access Aisles

2019-05-01 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 11:47 AM Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > 1 May 2019, 20:11 by cliff...@snowandsnow.us: > > > On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 9:13 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > highway=footway wheelchair=yes ... would be in keeping with present > tagging of wheelchairs in OSM. ??? > >

[Tagging] Handicap Parking Access Aisles

2019-04-29 Thread Clifford Snow
I'd like to add a new tag to highway=footway, footway=access_aisle. An access aisle [1] is the space allowed in parking lots for vans. (Vans that are equipped with a wheelchair ramp.) According to Wikipedia [2] and the Americans with Disabilities Act Handbook, access aisles "shall be part of an

Re: [Tagging] Handicap Parking Access Aisles

2019-05-02 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 7:54 AM Tony Shield wrote: > Hi > > It does appear that 'access aisle' is US and from watching the video and > your picture it is an integral part of a parking_bay or parking_lane for > disabled access. It follows that a parking bay or parking lane tagged for > disabled

Re: [Tagging] Keys to which new values can be added without a proposal: craft=, shop=, building=, office=, sport=?

2019-08-15 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 9:07 AM Andy Townsend wrote: > On 15/08/2019 14:26, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > How about "craft=artist" then? The tag "craft=atelier" was described > > as for any type of artist: "workshop of a ...professional artist in > > the fine or decorative arts" > > "craft=artist"

Re: [Tagging] Artists studios, WAS Re: Keys to which new values can be added without a proposal: craft=, shop=, building=, office=, sport=?

2019-08-15 Thread Clifford Snow
different values, let alone different keys. > > > Some artists can copy, some cannot copy. It is a skill. Many who copy can > also originate. > > > -Joseph > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 9:37 AM Martin Koppenhoefer < > dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >

Re: [Tagging] craft=sculpter <> craft=sculptor

2019-08-30 Thread Clifford Snow
It looks like just a misspelling of sculptor. OR and ER are commonly used to describe a person or thing doing something. As far I can see, British English would spell it as sculptor. Best, Clifford On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 5:17 AM marc marc wrote: > Hello, > > does both have the same meaning ?

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of State Parks in the US

2019-08-06 Thread Clifford Snow
I've been following this thread but haven't chimed in yet. I wanted to talk to someone that works in State Parks. I contact Neil Lasley with Washington State Parks and asked him his impression of the discussion and how the state view parks. Here is what he had to say. Good to hear from you! I

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Pedestrian lane

2019-11-02 Thread Clifford Snow
Markus, I like your proposal but think it needs to clarify the difference between a pedestrian lane and a shoulder [1]. In the US, most (many?) states allow pedestrians to walk on shoulders if there is no sidewalk/footway, with the exception of motorways. How would a mapper know if this is a

Re: [Tagging] Open Voting on Access Aisle

2019-11-16 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 9:38 AM Alessandro Sarretta < alessandro.sarre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I've tried to use your tagging system in an area close where I live. You > can find here the way (https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/746061718) and > here a picture from Google Streetview ( >

[Tagging] Open Voting on Access Aisle

2019-11-15 Thread Clifford Snow
Since there has been no new discussion and I've modified the proposal to accommodate concerns on the original Draft, I'm opening the proposal up for voting. Please go to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/access_aisle to vote on the proposal. Thanks in advance, Clifford --

Re: [Tagging] Footway Link (was Feature Proposal - RFC - Pedestrian lane)

2019-11-16 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 2:24 AM Markus wrote: > I use highway=footway + footway=link connect steps and sidewalks to a > road, in order to retain the real length and geometry of the steps or > sidewalks and to indicate that these aren't steps or a sidewalk > anymore, but part of the carriageway

Re: [Tagging] Open Voting on Access Aisle

2019-11-16 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 11:22 PM Alessandro Sarretta < alessandro.sarre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > There are a couple of things that are not totally clear to me: > >- in general, might these tags apply also to areas, rather than only >ways? > > We already have highway=pedestrian. Are you

Re: [Tagging] the nature of large-scale paid edits (was Re: Service road)

2019-11-07 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 1:59 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > On the subject of mapping driveways - do people only map up to the front > fence (especially in suburban areas), or all the way to the garage / house > ie everything visible on aerial imagery? > > I map to the garage to or in the case of

Re: [Tagging] the nature of large-scale paid edits (was Re: Service road)

2019-11-07 Thread Clifford Snow
Every time I've contacted one of the Amazon's team, they have responded and taken responsibility to update their edits. We should first try to contact them before going through DWG. This thread shows the number of opinions on how to map service roads. BTW my driveway is a shared driveway. I've

Re: [Tagging] Business names in capital letters

2019-12-14 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 11:20 AM Markus wrote: > On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 at 01:44, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > > > > When that is how the business name is shown, what is our policy for it? > > I thought we had a policy for it, but i can't fine one. It's probably > rather an observation that names

[Tagging] Access Aisle Proposal

2019-12-05 Thread Clifford Snow
I have closed the voting for the Access Aisle Proposal. [1] Final results of the voting are: It was *approved* with 14 votes for, 2 votes against and 1 abstention with an 82% approval. I will start integrating the proposal into the wiki as documented in Proposal Process.[2] The iD developers

Re: [Tagging] How to tag pedestrian lanes?

2019-10-20 Thread Clifford Snow
I'm not familiar with the laws of the country the picture [1] listed in the first post on this thread, but the diagonal yellow lines look to me like a don't park here rather than a sidewalk. Even the one pedestrian in the picture isn't walking the diagonal yellow lines. Can someone confirm that

[Tagging] Proposal: Access Aisle

2019-10-24 Thread Clifford Snow
I'd like to propose a tagging scheme to tag parking lot access aisle. Access aisles are marked areas often used between handicap parking spaces but also used to indicate pedestrian access between parking spaces. The proposal can be found on the wiki [1] [1]

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: Access Aisle

2019-10-28 Thread Clifford Snow
Thanks for all the comments. SomeoneElse wrote on the proposal talk page: The page currently uses both "handicap" and "disabled"; I'd suggest using "disabled" throughout (see e.g. https://www.gov.uk/apply-blue-badge ) as that's the terminology used in UK versions of English. I'm not exactly sure

Re: [Tagging] Tagging estuaries: estuary=yes or river=estuary?

2019-10-28 Thread Clifford Snow
A friend, who works in this area of research, pointed me to an easy to read article [1] on estuaries. According to the article there are five types of estuaries based on their geology, coastal plain, bar-built, deltas, tectonic and fjords. (Note I'm skipping the classification based on water

Re: [Tagging] Tagging estuaries: estuary=yes or river=estuary?

2019-10-26 Thread Clifford Snow
g is being used currently. But > I wasn't able to find anything. > > Thanks for your help. > > On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 9:29 AM Clifford Snow > wrote: > >> Looking at the US NHD estuary is broadly defined. For example, The Skagit >> River flows through my county into the Pu

Re: [Tagging] Tagging estuaries: estuary=yes or river=estuary?

2019-10-25 Thread Clifford Snow
Looking at the US NHD estuary is broadly defined. For example, The Skagit River flows through my county into the Puget Sound in Washington State. I would expect the delta area, where it empties into the sound to be defined as an estuary. And it is. But apparently so is the whole of Puget Sound.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - footway=link

2019-11-18 Thread Clifford Snow
First off I like this proposal and agree that it be applied more broadly. However there is a difference between a motorway=link (and similar) and a footway=link. A motorway=link is a physical feature unlike a footway=link. A footway=link is more of an attempt to bridge vector representation of a

[Tagging] eelgrass

2019-12-18 Thread Clifford Snow
How should eelgrass[1] be tagged? I see that wetland=reedbed [2] has been used in tidal areas mainly in Europe but also in the US but they are two different plants. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zostera [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reed_bed -- @osm_washington www.snowandsnow.us

Re: [Tagging] eelgrass

2019-12-18 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 1:00 PM Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > Do you have an example of a location which you wish to tag? > Here is what the researchers have documented

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