Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

2020-07-23 Thread Matthew Woehlke
On 23/07/2020 15.34, Jmapb wrote: As I see it, having bicycle=no imply permission to push a dismounted bicycle violates the principle of least surprise because it's inconsistent with other *=no access tags. I wouldn't presume I could push my car along a motor_vehicle=no way, While I would

Re: [Tagging] Tagging motorcycle parking

2020-07-23 Thread Matthew Woehlke
On 22/07/2020 20.49, Warin wrote: You asked for 'better' without defining what better means to you. To me it is 'better' to know where these things are (requires more work by the mapper) rather than that they are somewhere inside some area (requires less work by the mapper). Disabled parking

Re: [Tagging] Two side-of-road parking questions

2020-07-23 Thread Matthew Woehlke
On 23/07/2020 15.20, Paul Allen wrote: On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 at 19:43, Matthew Woehlke wrote: I'm trying to tag a whole bunch of side-of-road parking, and I have two questions. First, what is the correct way to tag marked parking spaces? There is parking:lane:*=marked which would seem to apply

Re: [Tagging] Tagging motorcycle parking

2020-07-22 Thread Matthew Woehlke
On 22/07/2020 16.32, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Mi., 22. Juli 2020 um 21:11 Uhr schrieb Matthew Woehlke: Right now the only option seems to be to model the lot as two separate entities, one which excludes the motorcycle spaces, and one which is *only* the motorcycle spaces which could

Re: [Tagging] surface=rock

2020-11-23 Thread Matthew Woehlke
On 21/11/2020 15.07, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: My understanding about this is that there is a difference between British English usage and American usage - especially in the western USA. The English seem to have an idea that "rock" is for mostly solid, immobile "bedrock", while a "stone" is a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - crossing=priority

2020-12-21 Thread Matthew Woehlke
On 20/12/2020 08.54, ipswichmapper--- via Tagging wrote: - What should be considered a crossing? If it is unmarked, is it a crossing at all? (Should all intersections be tagged as "unmarked crossings"? Are places with traffic islands (no kerbs) where people frequently cross considered as

Re: [Tagging] Proposal to change key:man_made to key:human_made

2020-10-20 Thread Matthew Woehlke
On 19/10/2020 18.46, Robert Delmenico wrote: 'Not really, and "man_made" does not mean that it was made by males.' Yes it does. Why would society also use women-made? Because someone with a PC stick up their decided to declare that "man made" meant "made by men" rather than "made by males"

Re: [Tagging] Parking fee only after some time period

2020-10-22 Thread Matthew Woehlke
On 20/10/2020 16.34, Branko Kokanovic wrote: There are lot of parking lots on amenities (shopping malls...), where parking is free for customers, but only if you park for less than some specified time amount (let's say 2-3h), imposed by that amenity. After that period, you have to pay[1]. It is

Re: [Tagging] OSM changes the world | Re: Feature Proposal - RFC - Artificial

2020-10-21 Thread Matthew Woehlke
On 21/10/2020 09.34, Tobias Zwick wrote: You seem to defend that OSM should be used as a tool to change language, for politically motivated reasons in this case. Indeed; we should not forget that the ultimate motivation here is *very much* political. (Note: as I stated elsewhere, that may not

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Artificial

2020-10-21 Thread Matthew Woehlke
On 21/10/2020 00.57, Robert Delmenico wrote: 'her generic man' has been fixed - it was a typo. now reads: "confirmed that when people read or hear the generic version of 'man', people form mental pictures of males" Citation needed, especially as you imply one but don't (AFAICT?) supply a

Re: [Tagging] Proposal to change key:man_made to key:human_made

2020-10-21 Thread Matthew Woehlke
On 20/10/2020 15.22, Justin Tracey wrote: On 2020-10-20 12:13 p.m., Matthew Woehlke wrote: On 19/10/2020 16.01, Justin Tracey wrote: It's the same reason we want discourse on lists like this one to be friendly and amicable: it should be obvious to anyone outside looking in that contributing

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