Re: [Tagging] Camps

2015-05-05 Thread Jerry Clough - OSM
 It seems to me that the obvious generalisation, which would cover camps  organised for profit and by non-profits would be leisure=vacation_camp. This simply generalises summer, and avoids the very specific British connotations associated with  holiday_camp. This does not precisely cover things

Re: [Tagging] Tag:natural=tree and taxon names

2015-05-01 Thread Jerry Clough - OSM
It really just happened. species, genus and taxon as tags came into existence at similar times. It may well be that my use of taxon was inspired by your own initiative on Flickr. Currently the position is very simple: - species and genus are preferred tags for taxon:species and

Re: [Tagging] oneway=no spams

2014-12-28 Thread Ole Nielsen / osm
I notice a quicky increasing number of oneway=no tags on roads, probably due to editors offering some flashy list box for the oneway key. I wonder what's next. bridge=no, tunnel=no...? I find these information-less tags annoying, because you have to browse a long list of bogus tags on each

Re: [Tagging] Pre-RFC: shop=mall versus shop=shopping_centre

2014-10-21 Thread Jerry Clough - OSM
A few points: * OSM standard is British English. Shopping Centre is standard British English for an enclosed pedestrian space with lots of shops. Historically these have been covered, but this is changing to a simulated street environment (in UK Liverpool One the Arc at Bury St Edmunds

Re: [Tagging] Truckage company

2014-10-21 Thread Jerry Clough - OSM
As Dudley said, Haulage contractor is standard British-English for firms (and individuals) who own and operate Heavy Goods Vehicles (over 3.5 t IIRC) to transport a whole range of loads. As others have said logistics is about the whole chain of processes rather than specifically individual

Re: [Tagging] Cycle lane tagging

2014-08-02 Thread Ole Nielsen / osm
Questions regarding correct cycle lane tagging. Regarding a situation like http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle M3a: a) How do I tag the width of the cycle lane? b) How do I tag an arrangement like M3a where the lane is signposted as non-segregated foot and cycle use? Do I need to

Re: [Tagging] Change in rendering in Mapnik of Nature Reserves.

2014-07-24 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 24 July 2014 00:10, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Thanks for pointing that out to me. As I said, I personally had no problem with 'NR' but I'd be OK with it's removal is there was some king of infill. ATM there is none it looks virtually invisible. I'm not sure if this is in the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - bicycle=use_cycleway

2013-11-14 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 14 November 2013 09:13, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: I don't see why you can't tag the roads you're talking about with bicycle=no (or maybe something like bicycle=restricted for the cases where more significant use is allowed) and then add a second tag along the lines

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - bicycle=use_cycleway

2013-11-13 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 12 November 2013 18:16, Pee Wee piewi...@gmail.com wrote: Together with user Masimaster I've made a proposal for a new tag to improve bicycle routing. I think (and hope) the wiki is clear enough but I’ll say a few words about this new tag. The tag is introduced to separate 2 kinds of roads

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - bicycle=use_cycleway

2013-11-13 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 13 November 2013 23:06, Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote: In the Netherlands, segways, rollerblades, and skateboards are allowed on bike paths. In Austria, segways and rollerblades are allowed on bike paths, but skateboards are not. In Germany, segways are allowed on bike

Re: [Tagging] Usefulness of bicycle=dismount on ways

2013-10-15 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 14 October 2013 16:35, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/10/14 Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@gmail.com bicycle=no on the entry/exit node should suffice for routing +1, for routing that should be sufficient, but not for mapping ;-) If they are explicitly

Re: [Tagging] Substation proposal approved - and a suggestion for a post-vote change

2013-10-13 Thread Ole Nielsen / osm
2013/10/12 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com 2013/10/12 Ole Nielsen / osm on-...@xs4all.nl I propose to change the meaning of substation=distribution to be used only on substations at the last level of voltage transforming, thus the small street-level transformer kiosks etc

[Tagging] Substation proposal approved - and a suggestion for a post-vote change

2013-10-12 Thread Ole Nielsen / osm
The substation refinement proposal has been approved by a large majority of voters. The new feature page can be found here http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dsubstation Afterwards I regret a bit that I didn't reserve a dedicated value in the substation=* tag for the small street level

Re: [Tagging] Usefulness of bicycle=dismount on ways

2013-10-11 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 10 October 2013 15:28, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com wrote: +1 for a separate tag and deprecating bicycle=dismount To make the case for this clearer, consider the following. There are four combinations of access for bicycles and cyclists, depending on whether you are allowed to cycle and/or

Re: [Tagging] Usefulness of bicycle=dismount on ways

2013-10-09 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 7 October 2013 17:09, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com wrote: I wonder if it is useful to tag bicycle=dismount on ways. At least in Germany there is no official traffic sign despite of the existence of some. I don't think the issue here is really whether there is a need within instances of

Re: [Tagging] Power tower and pole usefulness

2013-09-22 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
. I would guess that most people would call them pylons. They also don't really fit with the current OSM usage of man_made=tower, so if we have to use something under man_made, I'd go for man_made=pylon. I wouldn't tag every antenna as tower neither, but of course there are communication towers

Re: [Tagging] tower vs mast vs antenna

2013-02-07 Thread osm
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Re: [Tagging] Is the difference between power station and sub station clear?

2013-01-25 Thread Ole Nielsen / osm
and a height of a few m, where medium voltage is transformed to low voltage. In German: Trafohäuschen (or Trafostation) That is a misunderstanding that was unfortunately introduced in the early days of OSM. The creator of the 'station' tag, Bahnpirat, has admitted it was a mistake, see http

Re: [Tagging] Exclusive access rights

2012-10-31 Thread OSM
Am 30.10.2012 21:09, schrieb Johan C: I believe there is a solution, which is consistent to current tagging styles and which complies to the Keep It Simple Smart principle. In the situation of a motorway with three lanes, of which the rightmost lane is forbidden for motorvehicles (and PSV

Re: [Tagging] Everybody is hiding?

2012-08-09 Thread Ole Nielsen / osm
Hi tagging list, the Extended Conditions proposal has been shot down by a majority, and therefore there is still no official way of tagging quite a lot of things. (As a side note, the Extended Conditions proposal is still the de facto standard.) Therefore, I expected that those people who

Re: [Tagging] Dispute prevention: meaning of lanes tag

2012-04-29 Thread Georg Feddern OSM
Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com hat am 29. April 2012 um 17:39 geschrieben: 2012/4/29 Kytömaa Lauri lauri.kyto...@aalto.fi: http://i46.tinypic.com/2cfqivn.png Which value would people use for the lanes=*? I think I wouldn't tag any lanes explicitly here. Looks like a

Re: [Tagging] Warning traffic signs - Invitation to discussion

2012-03-16 Thread OSM user
. - 15 марта 2012 г. 1:28 пользователь Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org написал: On Mar 14, 2012 2:58 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:32 PM, OSM user o...@fizik.spb.ru wrote: You can look

[Tagging] Preventing traffic signs - Invitation to discussion

2012-03-14 Thread OSM user
Hello! I want to use some designations for preventing traffic signs: traffic_sign=dangerous_turn_right, traffic_sign=dangerous_turn_left, traffic_sign=dangerous_turns_right and traffic_sign=dangerous_turns_left, traffic_sign=slippery_road, traffic_sign=rough_road,

Re: [Tagging] Preventing traffic signs - Invitation to discussion

2012-03-14 Thread OSM user
I propose additional tag traffic_sign:extent= . Link: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Traffic_sign#traffic_sign:extent - 2012/3/14 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Am 14. März 2012 11:25 schrieb OSM user o

Re: [Tagging] Preventing traffic signs - Invitation to discussion

2012-03-14 Thread OSM user
Thank you! I changed the title. Link: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Traffic_sign#Warning_traffic_signs --- 2012/3/14 John Sturdy jcg.stu...@gmail.com: On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:25 AM, OSM user o...@fizik.spb.ru wrote: Hello!   I want

Re: [Tagging] Warning traffic signs - Invitation to discussion

2012-03-14 Thread OSM user
, the first of them is turn to the right *) there will be several dangerous turns, the first of them is turn to the left - 2012/3/14 Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org: On Mar 14, 2012 3:25 AM, OSM user o...@fizik.spb.ru wrote:   I want to use some

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Relations/Proposed/Level Map

2011-10-12 Thread osm-marl
Dear all, in order to create an easy way of mapping stacked, identical structures and vertical ways, I have created the proposal of a level map. The main purpose is to be able to map ways of general interest through multi-floor buildings (in particular where multiple rounds through

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - addr:territory

2011-07-24 Thread OSM user
Hello! Please, look at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/addr:territory . I suppose to use this tag for addresses, which doesn't contain name of some street (for example, there are no street in some villages, there are addresses name of territory, number of house). User

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - addr:territory

2011-07-24 Thread OSM user
I have address Big town, Good Place, 1. How do you suppose to write it into OSM to show software, that there is no street with name Good Place and there is no a mistake? For example, in one town Good Place is territorial zone, and in another town we have street Good Place - how can we see

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - addr:territory

2011-07-24 Thread OSM user
addr:street=no, because rendereres will think, that we have street with name no; if we write addr:street=no, where should we write the name of territorial unit? 2011/7/25 Willi wil...@gmx.de: OSM user [mailto:o...@fizik.spb.ru] wrote on 25. July 2011 06:47 Hello! Please, look at http

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - mark vehicles, for which restriction is operating (preparing for voting: questions)

2011-07-19 Thread OSM user
Hello! Please, look at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/mark_vehicles,_for_which_restriction_is_operating . I've prepared questions for voting - please, check them and, if you have some ideas, please, leave comments. User Dinamik

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - mark vehicles, for which restriction is operating

2011-07-08 Thread OSM user
Hello! Please, look at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/mark_vehicles,_for_which_restriction_is_operating  User Dinamik ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Cemetery section tagging

2011-06-09 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
for OSM. Locations within the cemetery are known by section and site. I've drawn the section polygons based on the official maps, Bing imagery, and some discussion with them, but the boundaries do not really render in Mapnik. The latest iteration I've tried tags the individual sections

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - addr keys (2011-04)

2011-04-25 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
building, whether it's office space, industrial space, or retail space. my concern here is purely making sure the tag name is well chosen. given that OSM tends to lean towards british usage, i'd like to know what that is. richard

Re: [Tagging] convention for multiple maxspeed values

2011-04-24 Thread Nakor Osm
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: some highways have split max speed values, different for passenger cars and trucks. i don't see any provision for tagging this on the map features page. are there any existing proposals for dealing with this? if

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - daycare

2011-04-22 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
kids go to tend to be one of the following Nursery, Pre-school, a child-minder. To my mind these are pretty much covered by the amenity=kindergarten tag. I would not think there is any mileage in OSM trying to identify childminders. Once kids reach school, facilities where they stay before being

[Tagging] Reference numbers for UK Public Rights of Way

2010-08-22 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM)
The official record of UK Public rights of Way (Public Footpaths, Bridleways, Restricted Byways, and Byways Open to all Traffic) in each UK County is maintained by the corresponding County Council. They typically assign a number to each Right of Way (or segment thereof), with the numbers being

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