Re: [Tagging] Deprecate water=pond?

2020-11-10 Thread Andy Mabbett
ial ones. I have a pond in my garden. I could, if I had a mind to and a decent run up, jump over it. Not by any stretch of the imagination is it a lake, reservoir or basin. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing

Re: [Tagging] Tagging multiple images on one object

2020-08-26 Thread Andy Mabbett
oderation team" on Commons; deletion decisions there are made by the community of contributors at large (just like edits in OSM). Your images sound as though they would be in scope. Did you try to upload them? Do you have an example of an image which has been deleted from Commons? -- Andy

Re: [Tagging] Canopy Walkways

2020-08-21 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 at 23:56, Peter Elderson wrote: > > Do we tag > highway=motor ? Is anybody proposing footway=legs ? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.

Re: [Tagging] Canopy Walkways

2020-08-21 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 at 21:44, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > >highway=trunk_hghway > these are different because it would be a literal repetition. Do we tag: highway=trunk_road ? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewi

Re: [Tagging] Canopy Walkways

2020-08-21 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 at 20:46, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > sent from a phone > > > On 21. Aug 2020, at 20:53, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > > > What type of footway is not a walkway? > > > > What type of walkway is not a footway? > > > >

Re: [Tagging] Canopy Walkways

2020-08-21 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 at 15:03, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > sent from a phone > > > On 21. Aug 2020, at 15:18, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > > > That's a tautology (consider: footway=walkway) > it is not a tautology, it’s a subtype [We were discussing the suggestion: foo

Re: [Tagging] Canopy Walkways

2020-08-21 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 at 22:48, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > On 20. Aug 2020, at 23:18, Volker Schmidt wrote: > Or maybe footway=canopy_walkway? That's a tautology (consider: footway=walkway) and can be reduced to: footway=canopy or better: footway=treetop -- And

Re: [Tagging] Have our tagging voting rules changed recently?

2020-08-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 at 09:46, Frederik Ramm wrote: > On 04.08.20 10:06, Andy Mabbett wrote: > >> Have our tagging voting rules changed recently? > > > Which rules? > > Should I have written "was our voting process changed recently", or what > exactly are

Re: [Tagging] Have our tagging voting rules changed recently?

2020-08-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
d. With all the usual "we are not Wikipedia" caveats, this page might make useful reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Polling_is_not_a_substitute_for_discussion -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk __

Re: [Tagging] Have our tagging voting rules changed recently?

2020-08-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 at 08:57, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Have our tagging voting rules changed recently? Which rules? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org ht

[Tagging] Finger- or guide-post text

2020-07-16 Thread Andy Mabbett
:=foo If this would cloud the use of "destination", we could use, say: inscription:337.5:=foo What do folk think? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] How to map terrace buildings with names

2020-07-06 Thread Andy Mabbett
ou, in one process, and very well. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Automated edit of image tags suggestion

2020-06-26 Thread Andy Mabbett
ant to introduce various extra tags for each? That invokes a slippery-slope fallacy; but consider: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:mapillary https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:flickr -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

Re: [Tagging] Adding mapillary tags to every building

2020-06-09 Thread Andy Mabbett
s, you can also link to it from Wikidata. (Although it can be used as I describe above, its primary purpose is to find, for a given location, nearby Wikidata items that lack images.) -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Taggi

Re: [Tagging] URL tracking parameters

2020-02-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 20:46, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > > On 2/25/20 4:05 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > We should not, of course, remove either the full URLs nor the whole > > PoIs, since that would open us up to attack from bad actors > > masquerading as the companies w

Re: [Tagging] URL tracking parameters

2020-02-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
/hotels/bhxsadi-doubletree-stratford-upon-avon/...) From the page headers (extraneous parameters snipped, white space added): https://www.hilton.com/en/hotels/bhxsadi-doubletree-stratford-upon-avon/; > -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pi

Re: [Tagging] URL tracking parameters

2020-02-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
l URLs nor the whole PoIs, since that would open us up to attack from bad actors masquerading as the companies whose commercial sites we depict. And would in any case be a ridiculous over-reaction, and damaging to our reputation. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.

Re: [Tagging] Relation for multi-part artworks

2020-02-06 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 12:20, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > I hope to find consensus for how to tag artworks with multiple parts, > as a relation. > We could use relation_type:set (which I used for the Moonstones) or > define a new relation_type:artwork To further complicate matters I

Re: [Tagging] Relation for multi-part artworks

2020-02-06 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 12:41, marc marc wrote: > > Le 06.02.20 à 13:20, Andy Mabbett a écrit : > > We could use relation_type:set > > why not using relation type=site that already exist ? Because they are not a "site". -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing

[Tagging] Relation for multi-part artworks

2020-02-06 Thread Andy Mabbett
of statues in Porto: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2996821310 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:People_looking_the_sky_%28Faro_district%29.JPG We could use relation_type:set (which I used for the Moonstones) or define a new relation_type:artwork Thoughts? -- Andy Mabbett

[Tagging] building=disused

2020-01-14 Thread Andy Mabbett
uot; buildings. Is JOSM correct, what's the preferred alternative, and why is there no easily-found documntation for this common use case? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Vegan "cheese" shops

2019-12-18 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 at 15:58, Robert Skedgell wrote: > I've just been to La Fauxmagerie in Shoreditch, London, a vegan "cheese" > shop. shop=hipster produce=bogus -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagg

Re: [Tagging] [Key:phone] - Suggesting wiki page changing

2019-09-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
tect Wiki pages unless they are the target of persistent or egregious vandalism. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] "part:wikidata=*" tag proposal for multiple elements connected to the same wikidata id

2019-09-14 Thread Andy Mabbett
bout that street. You can't define those parts in >>> Wikidata. >> Use a relation. > Introducing pointless relation to satisfy unneded rule is pointless. Indeed it would be. In this case, though the relation would not be "pointless". --

Re: [Tagging] "part:wikidata=*" tag proposal for multiple elements connected to the same wikidata id

2019-09-13 Thread Andy Mabbett
296167. Can we agree that these should all be removed, or replaced with suitable sub-tag, ASAP? the sub-tag might be, say: historic:wikidata=Q2961670 > I would give all these roads part:wikidata=Q29616 I would not. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigso

Re: [Tagging] "part:wikidata=*" tag proposal for multiple elements connected to the same wikidata id

2019-09-13 Thread Andy Mabbett
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q314003 / https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q26703203 ) But perhaps this is better done through the templated link to Q26703203 on https://wiki.openstreetmap.org and/ or Q26703203 /wiki/Tag:memorial%3Dstolperstein -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.

Re: [Tagging] "part:wikidata=*" tag proposal for multiple elements connected to the same wikidata id

2019-09-13 Thread Andy Mabbett
etlands, which happen to have a lake > within them. Map > the wetlands and add the wikidata tag to it. ..and create a Wikidata item for (just) the lake. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging ma

Re: [Tagging] "part:wikidata=*" tag proposal for multiple elements connected to the same wikidata id

2019-09-13 Thread Andy Mabbett
rty identifiers (for example, Lidl has an "EU Transparency Register ID") can help. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] "part:wikidata=*" tag proposal for multiple elements connected to the same wikidata id

2019-09-13 Thread Andy Mabbett
> grouping itself was flagged as being of listed buildings. Do you mean categories on Wikimedia Commons? That's not Wikidata. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] "part:wikidata=*" tag proposal for multiple elements connected to the same wikidata id

2019-09-13 Thread Andy Mabbett
tag? > You have examples like tagging all ways that are a part of a street with > the wikidata item about that street. You can't define those parts in > Wikidata. Use a relation. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _

[Tagging] Hill figures

2019-09-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
g/relation/9995162 [9] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osmington_White_Horse [10] https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=50.65741=-2.40438=11#map=17/50.65741/-2.40438 [11] https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/120665846#map=18/50.65788/-2.40433 [12] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hill_figure -- An

Re: [Tagging] phone vs contact:phone WAS Re: Multiple tags for one purpose

2019-08-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
for > staff,... there are at least two possibilities: phone= phone:emergency= phone:staff= and: phone= emergency:phone= staff:phone= Neither of which requires "contact:" -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tag

Re: [Tagging] Opening hours syntax for non Gregorian calendar

2019-05-23 Thread Andy Mabbett
nglish month names. > opening_hours to keep things simple and to prevent a problem in one affecting > all of them. If only there was some sort of ISO standard for representing dates... -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - toll

2019-05-08 Thread Andy Mabbett
practice, and can not dictate it? > You did notice she has linked to a proposal page, which is a space in the > wiki explicitly set up to discuss new ideas? Yes, I did. My point stands. Or did we change things, and agree that the Wiki is now the de jure record of authority?

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - toll

2019-05-08 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Wed, 8 May 2019 at 17:26, marc marc wrote: > > Le 08.05.19 à 18:00, Andy Mabbett a écrit : > > On Wed, 8 May 2019 at 14:50, > > wrote: > >> > >> I > > > > Who is "I"? is "wiki_openstreetmap_org.5.kuru" really your name?

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - toll

2019-05-08 Thread Andy Mabbett
the wiki is supposed to document current best practice, and can not dictate it? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Incorrectly tagging locks on rivers as canals

2019-04-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 20:47, François Lacombe wrote: > The main difference with rivers going through cities is it's often the > original natural course. The River Tame, in North Birmingham and in the urban areas north of the city, has several sections, some concrete-sided and some looking

Re: [Tagging] Waterway length

2019-02-16 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 at 13:46, Eugene Podshivalov wrote: > > сб, 16 февр. 2019 г. в 16:30, Andy Mabbett : >> Why would we tag either, when software can calculate them? > Calculated value may differ from the official one and is error-prone I would suggest that values entered b

Re: [Tagging] Waterway length

2019-02-16 Thread Andy Mabbett
m. Why would we tag either, when software can calculate them? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

2018-12-01 Thread Andy Mabbett
start_date= [date] * operator= [...] and: * wikidata= [QID] if applicable. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] Slipways (for boats)

2018-11-09 Thread Andy Mabbett
The wiki tells us to use "leisure=slipway": https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dslipway but many slipways are primarily for search-and-rescue, fishing craft, small ferries or other non-leisure uses. What would be a better tag? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonth

Re: [Tagging] [Diversity-talk] Out of the bars and onto the map: An lgbtq:*=* tagging scheme?

2018-10-23 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 19:27, Rory McCann wrote: > "shop=books lgbtq=yes" is a LGBTQ book shop, Wouldn't that be "shop=books books=lgbtq"? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Ta

Re: [Tagging] Greengrocer vs grocery vs shop=food?

2018-10-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
foreign prepared foods". But note also that the same page says "'Deli' also denotes a small convenience store or milk bar in [Australia]" and "In the United States, a delicatessen (or deli) is often a combined grocery store and restaurant&quo

Re: [Tagging] Greengrocer vs grocery vs shop=food?

2018-10-10 Thread Andy Mabbett
od. This is part of a, international chain. What are other branches tagged as? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Stolpersteine tagging scheme problem

2018-08-26 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 26 August 2018 at 12:18, Andy Mabbett wrote: > There is also a project to log Stolpersteine in Wikidata: > >https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Stolpersteine P.S. Of course, this also involves adding a photograph of each individual Stolperstein to Wikimedia Commo

Re: [Tagging] Stolpersteine tagging scheme problem

2018-08-26 Thread Andy Mabbett
at you add to OSM with the equivalent Wikidata "QID". If the new database has PIDs for each Stolperstein, I will propose a new Wikidata property to store those IDs also, so we will be able to triangulate between the three databases. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigs

Re: [Tagging] Stolpersteine tagging scheme problem

2018-08-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Sat, 25 Aug 2018 at 09:13, Peter Elderson wrote: > In Nederland the Stolpersteine project has caught on and there is a database. Is that online, please? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] areas of risk

2018-08-16 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 16 August 2018 at 22:34, seirra wrote: > hmmm i do see the point there about racial/class bias... i was thinking more > about areas that were known crime spots/had associated illegal activities > people may want to avoid What, like tax avoidance and insider dealing? -- And

Re: [Tagging] Slash, space, or spaced hyphen in multi-lingual names

2018-08-11 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 10 August 2018 at 23:39, Paul Allen wrote: > This is a different problem from which separator to use. I wondered if anyone would remember that question! -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagg

Re: [Tagging] Slash, space, or spaced hyphen in multi-lingual names

2018-08-09 Thread Andy Mabbett
Xstraat", so the sign says Rue X-straat. > That's true and I always wondered why the community didn't take that > approach. Map what is on the sign. Signs can use different fonts, text size, colours and "line breaks" to indicate meaning which cannot be captured in a sing

Re: [Tagging] Slash, space, or spaced hyphen in multi-lingual names

2018-08-09 Thread Andy Mabbett
:xx field. I understand that already. > p.s. It is not the first time this question pops up. That can be a sign that something is amiss. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagg

[Tagging] Slash, space, or spaced hyphen in multi-lingual names

2018-08-08 Thread Andy Mabbett
du Marché aux Poulets - Kiekenmarkt (Belgium, Spain) * spaces: name=干諾道中 Connaught Road Central (Hong Kong) * spaced slashes: name=Le Rhin / Rhein (shared boundaries) Greater consistency would surely be advantageous? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

Re: [Tagging] esperanto=yes

2018-06-28 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 28 June 2018 at 11:57, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > teaches:esperanto=yes Do we really want to replicate schools' and colleges' prospectuses? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagg

Re: [Tagging] roundtrip

2018-05-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
etes a (approximately) circular route to arrive back at its starting point is NOT called a "round trip", whether or not it performs that circuit just once, or multiple times. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk __

Re: [Tagging] Conflicting wiki docu for aerialway=goods and aerialway=station

2018-05-14 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Tue, 15 May 2018 02:36 Paul Allen, <pla16...@gmail.com> wrote: > at least one other language makes a similar > distinction to English in that stations are for people, not goods. The U.K. has (or had) many places named 'Goods Station'. -- Andy Mabbett @pigson

Re: [Tagging] Unifying large multi-location store chains

2018-05-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
results > based on wiki tags. So if you are going through these it would be a great > time to fix these as well. It would, but it would be even better to substitute, or add, wikidata:brand= at the same time. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http:/

Re: [Tagging] Cafe run as outreach project

2018-04-12 Thread Andy Mabbett
ompany, sole trader, cooperative, charity, etc); why would we need one in this case? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

2018-03-31 Thread Andy Mabbett
lf service, pay at kiosk * Self service, pay at pump -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Rubberised playground surface

2018-03-12 Thread Andy Mabbett
gt; rubber_mulch 4 > rubber_crumb 3 > rubber_grass 3 Whatever the correct value turns out to be, there's an alarming level of redundancy there. "Rubber" and "recycled_rubber" should both be "rubber". "rubbercrumb" and "rubber_crumb" are clea

Re: [Tagging] Rubberised playground surface

2018-03-12 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 12 March 2018 at 12:53, Tom Pfeifer <t.pfei...@computer.org> wrote: > On 12.03.2018 13:03, Andy Mabbett wrote: >> Suggestions, please, for tagging the surface underneath playground >> items like swings and slides, which is made of a soft, rubber-like >> material. >

[Tagging] Rubberised playground surface

2018-03-12 Thread Andy Mabbett
Suggestions, please, for tagging the surface underneath playground items like swings and slides, which is made of a soft, rubber-like material. I've used surface=rubber, for now, but that's not really accurate. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

2018-02-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
p.org/way/430568379 https://billdargue.jimdo.com/placenames-gazetteer-a-to-y/places-h/holloway-head/ which is an historic street name, not a neologism. That said, I have no view regarding the use of the term in tagging. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://p

Re: [Tagging] Urbex

2018-01-09 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 8 January 2018 at 23:39, Kevin Kenny <kevin.b.kenny+...@gmail.com> wrote: > Witness municipalities asking us to remove their > streets from the map When & where did that happen? [off-topic for the tagging list, so please feel free to point me to an alternative venue]

Re: [Tagging] wikidata <> other ref <> no ref

2017-11-29 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 29 November 2017 at 13:05, marc marc <marc_marc_...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Le 29. 11. 17 à 12:06, Andy Mabbett a écrit : >> On 29 November 2017 at 00:40, marc marc wrote: >> >>> my query shows you that you can get the same without wikidata. >> >> Plea

Re: [Tagging] wikidata <> other ref

2017-11-29 Thread Andy Mabbett
ohn Smith born in London in 1853, not the architect John Smith born in London in 1867, nor the architect John Smith born in Birmingham in 1853. Without using Wikidata. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing lis

Re: [Tagging] part_of:wikidata key

2017-11-28 Thread Andy Mabbett
M > in a stable way from the outside would be much more productive Great! Let us know when you have a working solution, consensus to implement it, and tools that work with it. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ T

Re: [Tagging] part_of:wikidata key

2017-11-28 Thread Andy Mabbett
data federates with include: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:SPARQL_federation_input/Archive#Linked_Geo_Data https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:SPARQL_federation_input/Archive#LOSM -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

Re: [Tagging] part_of:wikidata key

2017-11-28 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 28 November 2017 at 14:36, Kevin Kenny wrote: > I would need to understand the use cases and > what value they add to the map P.S. The key here is to understand the concept of "linked data" [1], or rather "linked, open data" [2]. In other words, making inline

Re: [Tagging] part_of:wikidata key

2017-11-28 Thread Andy Mabbett
ics [2] https://blog.songkick.com/combining-forces-with-the-wikipedia-universe-38b562ced1e8 -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] part_of:wikidata key

2017-11-28 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 28 November 2017 at 13:41, Frederik Ramm <frede...@remote.org> wrote: > On 28.11.2017 14:13, Andy Mabbett wrote: >>> the established rule not to have external IDs in the >>> OSM database >> >> What "established rule" would that be? Est

Re: [Tagging] part_of:wikidata key

2017-11-28 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 28 November 2017 at 12:18, Christoph Hormann <o...@imagico.de> wrote: > the established rule not to have external IDs in the > OSM database What "established rule" would that be? Established by whom; when and how? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http:

Re: [Tagging] Emergency phones with blinking lights

2017-11-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 2 November 2017 at 18:15, Éric Gillet wrote: > 2017-11-02 15:50 GMT+01:00 Nelson A. de Oliveira : >> >> Is there a way to represent emergency phones (emergency=phone) which >> have a blinking/flashing light (so they can be identified at night, >>

[Tagging] Not houseboats

2017-10-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
We have Tag:building=houseboat: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:building%3Dhouseboat How do we tag similar structures, that are not residential (e.g. used as restaurants or nightclubs)? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

[Tagging] Cyphers on postal boxes

2017-09-18 Thread Andy Mabbett
, that is not "royal" Should we change the tag to: cypher= or something else? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] OSM+Wikidata intro video

2017-06-15 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 15 June 2017 at 21:02, Yuri Astrakhan <yuriastrak...@gmail.com> wrote: > This service is still looking for a proper home. If you have an extra 700GB > of space on a server, please PM. Perhaps the WMF toolserver? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonth

Re: [Tagging] How to tag monumental railcars

2017-05-15 Thread Andy Mabbett
an en-GB native, and having spent ten years working at a railway museum in England, I would say brake vans are definitely "rolling stock" (as indeed is anything on wheels that moves on railway rails). Both en.Wikipedia's categories (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_van ) and Wikidata a

Re: [Tagging] How to tag monumental railcars

2017-05-10 Thread Andy Mabbett
century, the shorter one is preferred in all main varieties of English." http://grammarist.com/spelling/wagon-waggon/ -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] How to tag monumental railcars

2017-05-10 Thread Andy Mabbett
ish between railway wagons and other types. Maybe historic=railway_wagon ? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] wikipedia links and copy + paste in tag definitions

2017-05-01 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 1 May 2017 at 13:18, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 1. May 2017, at 12:37, Andy Mabbett <a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote: > >> Do not falsely conflate "complex" with "worse". You original complaint >> was, in ef

Re: [Tagging] wikipedia links and copy + paste in tag definitions

2017-05-01 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 30 April 2017 at 09:51, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 30. Apr 2017, at 07:09, Andy Mabbett <a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote: >> >> No. The arguments made by Martin against linking to Wikipedia (which >> are themselves weak)

Re: [Tagging] wikipedia links and copy + paste in tag definitions

2017-04-29 Thread Andy Mabbett
and Russian Kremlins) This is apparently a case where OSM (or, at ealst, the OSM wiki) is in error. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Mapping time zones as geometries (relations)

2017-03-07 Thread Andy Mabbett
nits from OSM That database is Wikidata. make sure that the admin boundaries are tagged with the relevant Wikidata ID. > I still think that the mapping of time zones as geometries > should be discouraged in OSM. I agree. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsont

Re: [Tagging] A place where letters & parcels are sent to be sorted so they can be delivered?

2017-02-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
ostal_sorting_office from tag info Once they were. My local one is now, formally, known as "Great Barr Delivery Office". You can search for them by nearby postcodes, http://www.royalmail.com/delivery-and-collection-office-finder -- Andy Mabbett @pi

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

2016-10-27 Thread Andy Mabbett
ta Indeed. As a matter of interest, how many countries are currently tagged with their Wikidata ID? If not many, would people like a bot to add such tags? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstre

Re: [Tagging] Edit war at natural=cave_entrance ?

2016-09-13 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 13 September 2016 at 11:18, Richard <ricoz@gmail.com> wrote: > "Cadastre" is not an english word Really? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadastre https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cadastre -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://p

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Mountaineer's mailbox

2016-09-06 Thread Andy Mabbett
the next mountaineers who reach the summit pick > the card in order to give it back to the owner (sending it via mail, for > example). This sounds very similar to geocaching. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _

Re: [Tagging] intelligence services

2016-09-06 Thread Andy Mabbett
hen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre-sur-Haute_military_radio_station#Controversy_over_French-language_version_of_Wikipedia_article -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstre

Re: [Tagging] importance=* tag (for transportation etc)

2016-03-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 25 March 2016 at 12:19, Alexander Matheisen <alexandermathei...@ish.de> wrote: > Am Freitag, den 25.03.2016, 11:26 + schrieb Andy Mabbett: >> On 20 March 2016 at 00:12, Alexander Matheisen >> <alexandermathei...@ish.de> wrote: >> >> > If you have a

Re: [Tagging] importance=* tag (for transportation etc)

2016-03-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
a train to another country from Birmingham International railway station. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] importance=* tag (for transportation etc)

2016-03-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
a complex > algorithm might be very intransparent. Please explain what measure you are using, that is *more transparent*. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] importance=* tag (for transportation etc)

2016-03-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
s we have it now. Tagging is highway=primary vs. > secondary, secondary vs. tertiary, tertiary vs. unclassified is often a > question of importance, not only width, paving and lane count. Tagging highways as "primary" or "secondary" is often a matter of verif

Re: [Tagging] AirBnB

2016-03-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
g one agency (and I'm not convinced we should), we should list them all - and with a generic property. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] importance=* tag (for transportation etc)

2016-03-19 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 19 March 2016 at 17:47, John Willis <jo...@mac.com> wrote: >> On Mar 19, 2016, at 9:18 PM, Andy Mabbett <a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote: >> >> It's nowhere near as ridiculous as trying to render them according to >> some arbitrary and subjective "

Re: [Tagging] importance=* tag (for transportation etc)

2016-03-19 Thread Andy Mabbett
's nowhere near as ridiculous as trying to render them according to some arbitrary and subjective "importance" (Importance to whom? The people who live near them? Tourists? Mountaineers? Ornithologists? Aviators? Geologists? Climatologists? Oil prospectors?). -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing ht

Re: [Tagging] sloped_curb, kerb and god knows what left in limbo ......

2016-03-07 Thread Andy Mabbett
Today: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/sloped_kerb=1279361=1215962 On 7 March 2016 at 19:48, Simon Poole <si...@poole.ch> wrote: > Recently I believe in this case was 2010 . > > Simon > > Am 07.03.2016 um 19:39 schrieb Andy Mabbett: >

Re: [Tagging] sloped_curb, kerb and god knows what left in limbo ......

2016-03-07 Thread Andy Mabbett
the former allows the use of: kerb=dropped alone. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging

2016-01-30 Thread Andy Mabbett
shoulders which are for emergency use only; except during (variable) peak periods, when any vehicle may use them for regular driving. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.op

Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging

2016-01-29 Thread Andy Mabbett
aged motorways", in the UK) where a shoulder is reserved for emergency use, except in certain periods, where it may be used by normal traffic? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging

2016-01-26 Thread Andy Mabbett
nslate is to be > believed. If only there was a free online encyclopedia... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoulder_%28road%29 https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stra%C3%9Fenquerschnitt#Seitenstreifen -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _

Re: [Tagging] Art galleries/museums

2016-01-26 Thread Andy Mabbett
ards shop=art for badly tagged items >> > > +1 > This is a clear solution. +1 -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

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