Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

;> >> or >> traffic_calming=mini_bumps ? >> >> when they come up with something smaller that could still be micro_bumps >> ;-) >> >> >> Cheers Martin >> >> ___ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >>

Re: [Tagging] The saga of landuse=reservoir vs water=reservoir

n't willing to accept the > outcome of the community decision-making process? > There are no such things as "democratic process" or "community consensus" in tagging in OSM. So please, we must be tolerant with others' freedom to express their

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

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Re: [Tagging] Is it bicycle_parking=stands?

e, but rather in O shape > > > https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3ABicycle_parking_-_stand_in_ring_form.jpg > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.or

Re: [Tagging] Reviving the path discussion - the increasing importance of trails in OSM

its page, value definition on the its page or on the key page if there is no need for special page. Keep definition as simple as possible. -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Reviving the path discussion - the increasing importance of trails in OSM

cally > like roads, then also context becomes irrelevant when separating footway > and cycleway from path. > > /Daniel > > _______ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Change of wiki page Key:access

pt bicycles" under various traffic signs (on average in last years - > about one added every month), > in some cases it was simpler than inventing fitting tagging scheme for > really absurd cases. > ___ > Tagging mailing li

Re: [Tagging] Tag:amenity=motorcycle_taxi not approved

Le dim. 10 mai 2020 à 01:25, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > On 9. May 2020, at 22:50, Florimond Berthoux > wrote: > > Yeah, that's the point... > > Keep it simple. > You know taxi key ? You know motorcycle key ? Yeah, you can contribute > without checking y

Re: [Tagging] Tag:amenity=motorcycle_taxi not approved

t; > On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 1:34 PM Florimond Berthoux < > florimond.berth...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > 5) As a French I have to give you again the universal answer : > amenity=taxi + motorcycle=yes + whateveryourvehicle=yes|designated :) > >

Re: [Tagging] Tag:amenity=motorcycle_taxi not approved

n the West? > > -- Joseph Eisenberg > _______ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Doorzone bicycle lanes

_ Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> ___ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Doorzone bicycle lanes

ve cycleway:lane:width cycleway:lane:color etc. ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] With leisure=common deprecated, Senegal & Mali need a replacement

h. And for example in Poland >> some >> sport pitch may be used for an occasional event, festival of various >> types. >> >> Note: I am unfamiliar with on-the-ground situation in Africa >> ___ >> Tagging mailing li

Re: [Tagging] Tagging and rendering places without a name

Le mar. 21 avr. 2020 à 06:03, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> a écrit : > On 21/4/20 5:31 am, Florimond Berthoux wrote: > > Hi Hidde, welcome, > > The wiki definition is « Used to indicate that a particular location is > known by a particular name, to indicate what sort o

Re: [Tagging] Tagging and rendering places without a name

dge. > > The tough question is when some place is considered a 'place' and may be > mapped when the name is unknown. > > I am curious about further reactions on this topic. > > Kind regards, > *Hidde Wieringa* > ___ > Tagging maili

Re: [Tagging] Footways where pedestrians may only walk in one direction: oneway:foot=yes or foot:backward=no?

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Re: [Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

guess it provides a way to say it's a mountain biking track but without > knowing or wanting to make a determination of the exact mtb:scale. Also > mtb:scale on a highway=track is still a track so it provides some way to > say whats a mountain biking track. Some people here have been very vo

Re: [Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

a more precise > value -> mtb:scale=yes ? > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

Le sam. 4 avr. 2020 à 10:18, Snusmumriken a écrit : > On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 20:53 +0200, Florimond Berthoux wrote: > > For this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7wbi4wGbsg (Andrew's > > example) > > We're on the edge of tags definition : this a path limited cyclist, >

Re: [Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

I think the leisure=track approach could work, bu let's look around a bit > first. > I am not familiar with the tagging, but I have seen in the US designated > areas and tracks for 4wd vehicles, how are those tagged? Maybe that could > be a model. > > Volker > > -- Flo

Re: [Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:amenity=motorcycle_taxi

congested cities and rural > areas with narrow roads and paths. Motorcar taxicabs with 4 wheels in > 2 tracks cannot access {{tag|highway|path}} features and narrow roads, > but motorcycles may be permitted and feasible due to their narrow > width and single track. > > So a different tag is propos

Re: [Tagging] Tagging venues which give away free condoms?

; > > -- > Rory > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:amenity=motorcycle_taxi

quite confusing for travelers who > generally expect a "taxi" to be 4-wheeled motorcar capable of carrying > 4 people and luggage. So a different tag is proposed to avoid > confusion and more precisely tag these features. > > - Joseph Eisenberg > &

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards

So I guess you'll be against mapping roads also ? 1.35 millions deaths, that something to consider https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate Le dim. 16 févr. 2020 à 22:52, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> a écrit : > On 16/2/20 10:29 pm, Florimond Berth

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards

e a good > counter-value for "removable". > > Hauke > > [0] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bollard > [1] https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=bollard#values > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging

Re: [Tagging] implied surface values?

learly what it is from > the satellite imagery (like surface=grass). > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] implied surface values?

; unsurveyed surface=asphalt tags to many roads in the UK which I find > quite irritating. > > ael > > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] highway=path for *all* mixed foot/bicycle highways?=<88cad950-d9cc-3c2e-9015-a54d7206a...@gmx.com>

> > When I look at it what I'm hearing is whoosh: > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Richard/diary/20333 > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] highway=path for *all* mixed foot/bicycle highways?=<88cad950-d9cc-3c2e-9015-a54d7206a...@gmx.com>

very frequent in some >> countries. So it's there. I would not deprecate other tagging practices >> though. >> >> _______ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

ental or otherwise). It's not a spring. > > -- > Paul > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] change bicycle_parking=floor to surface

provided_lock,* > > > ??? > Useless I think, bicycle_parking is good enough for that. -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] change bicycle_parking=floor to surface

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Re: [Tagging] Continuous Sidewalk or Cycleway

faik) 2) cycleway > -> blue 3) combined foot-cycleway (as sidewalk) > -> light blue 4) segregated foot-cycleway (as sidewalk; with separate lanes for > pedestrians and bicycles) > -> blue + one outline in green > Volker > check ht

Re: [Tagging] Continuous Sidewalk or Cycleway

t; the crossing nodes would carry the attributes. > > Well, I have given my thoughts, good luck with the proposal! > > Best, Peter Elderson > -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Continuous Sidewalk or Cycleway

Le sam. 25 janv. 2020 à 15:19, Peter Elderson a écrit : > Florimond Berthoux : > >> With a table the pedestrians have to cross the road, it is the opposite >> for the continuous sidewalk that's why I'm in favor to add a new value >> > traffic_calming=continuous_sidewal

Re: [Tagging] Continuous Sidewalk or Cycleway

t; > > > > > Best, Peter Elderson > > > ___ > > > Tagging mailing list > > > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] Continuous Sidewalk or Cycleway

or ways of a feature. Helpful comments are welcome. -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] RFC free_water

>> Cheers Martin >> >> >> ___ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] RFC free_water

t;=> drinking_water:fee=free_for_customers -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] RFC free_water

and restaurants willing to participate in the refill > revolution. And that the bottle precision might only be necessary for those > refusing bottles and insisting on serving a glass of water. I agree. -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing lis

Re: [Tagging] RFC free_water

t would seem to make sense to explain why they believe their set of tags is the best. > > I hope this can help expedite the process. > > Best regards, > > Stuart -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Free Water for cafés, bars, restaurant

n be optional though we can use drinking_water:fee. drinking_water in a cafe can be assumed to not be self_service by default. -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Free Water for cafés, bars, restaurant

er Project < europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> a écrit : >> >> 5. Re: Tagging Free Water for cafés, bars, restaurant >> (Florimond Berthoux) >> >>>> Hello Florimond, While I don't necessarily feel the solution you propose is preferable, I do share your love of KISS thoug

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Free Water for cafés, bars, restaurant

Project progressive web app powered by OpenStreetMap, > Wikidata and Wikimedia Commons data can be found : > https://europeanwaterproject.org > > > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/li

Re: [Tagging] recreational vs functional routes

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Re: [Tagging] recreational vs functional routes

se users (like routing applications) can look at > other Openstreetmap data, like surface=* tags on ways, and external > data like elevation models, to determine if a route is a difficult > single-track trail through the hills versus a fla

Re: [Tagging] recreational vs functional routes

Le sam. 11 janv. 2020 à 22:22, Peter Elderson a écrit : > > Florimond Berthoux : >> >> So I propose to use for bicycle route >> bicycle:type=trekking/road_bike/commute/mtb >> > > I don't think commute is a type of bicycle? Trekking maybe, but here in N

Re: [Tagging] recreational vs functional routes

Le sam. 11 janv. 2020 à 21:20, marc marc a écrit : > > Le 11.01.20 à 21:05, Florimond Berthoux a écrit : > > What do you think ? > > avoid the word "type" in a key as it as no additional meaning. > type can be everything (type of operator, difficulty, use,

Re: [Tagging] recreational vs functional routes

though I guess that'd be rare. For other relations I don't know, I don't map or use them much. However I guess that road relation can have a road:type=* tag also. What do you think ? -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging

Re: [Tagging] recreational vs functional routes

Le jeu. 9 janv. 2020 à 22:05, Peter Elderson a écrit : > > Florimond Berthoux het volgende geschreven: >  > Ok, you need examples : > this Eurovelo 3 is for tourism > https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/9351172#map=12/48.8454/2.4130=C > this REVe Nord-Sud is for comm

Re: [Tagging] recreational vs functional routes

e significant mapping of these purposes. > > Best, Peter Elderson > > > Op do 9 jan. 2020 om 15:08 schreef Martin Koppenhoefer < > dieterdre...@gmail.com>: > >> Am Do., 9. Jan. 2020 um 10:41 Uhr schrieb Florimond Berthoux < >> florimond.berth...@gmail.com&g

Re: [Tagging] recreational vs functional routes

another optional tag for route relations might be useful, perhaps just function=recreational/practical or something. > > -- > Joost Schouppe -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

motor_vehicle=designated you know that a motorcycle and a > motorcar are both permitted on the way. > IIRR the thread about cargo bicycle parking went dead without providing > answers about implications or legalities, that’s why I was asking again. > > Cheers Martin -- Florimond Berthoux __

Re: [Tagging] Cycle boxes for two-stage left turns

nal law here but only if there is a traffic sign saying this obligation. mandatory=yes ? -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

would depend on the other access keys, I think the wiki is clear https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:access%3Ddesignated "The value designated is not meant to imply that OpenStreetMap access=* permissions have been automatically "designated" only to that transport mod

Re: [Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

ady implemented the > prefect tagging scheme somewhere. > > Volker > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- Florimond Berthoux ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] What access key for cargo bike ?

and > other bikes. What about France? > > Cheers Martin > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- Florimond Berthoux __

[Tagging] What access key for cargo bike ?

of those bicycle type not just a part of them. Taginfo doesn't help me here. Tags would be : amenity=bicycle_parking [english for freight bicycle]=designated The access key could be use also for other features like ramp, barrier, elevator... -- Florimond Berthoux