Re: [Tagging] source:maxspeed vs. maxspeed:type

2013-02-26 Thread Jason Cunningham
On 26 February 2013 09:16, Richard Mann wrote: > My impression is that a lot of the source:maxspeed were added by a single > user in an armchair edit. So its prevalence is not really an indicator of > anything. > But we could also say that a lot of the maxspeed:type were added by a single user in

Re: [Tagging] source:maxspeed vs. maxspeed:type

2013-02-25 Thread Jason Cunningham
On 22 February 2013 16:38, Martin Vonwald wrote: > Hi! > > Recently the use of the key maxspeed:type was documented in the wiki > (see [1] and [2]). It seems to be used in the UK for the same purpose > as source:maxspeed. I quote: "In the UK the general practice is to use > the maxspeed:type tag

Re: [Tagging] Source tag - deprecated for use on objects?

2013-01-03 Thread Jason Cunningham
On 2 January 2013 15:49, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > There are many people (myself included) who believe that source /on > objects/ is not useful, and most OSMers have moved away from using it, > and toward source on changesets. > I don't see any evidence that "most" OSMers act this way. Even if t

Re: [Tagging] Fixed caravan site

2012-11-18 Thread Jason Cunningham
On 18 November 2012 17:24, ael wrote: > Thanks for all the replies. In the UK context, none of these seem > entirely satisfactory. landuse=residential is certainly true, but these > caravan parks are rather distinctive, not common, and IMHO need a > distinctive tag. The hamlet tag would only be a

Re: [Tagging] Fishing allowed?

2012-09-10 Thread Jason Cunningham
On 10 September 2012 14:05, Jonathan Bennett wrote: > On 10/09/2012 12:36, te...@free.fr wrote: > > > I would like to store information about the legality of fishing a lake, > a river, etc. > > Is there already any tag with such a meaning? > > fishing=yes/no ? > > There is a tag leisure=fishing th

Re: [Tagging] emergency=fire_hydrant and wrenches

2012-07-25 Thread Jason Cunningham
On 24 July 2012 19:55, David ``Smith'' wrote: > Useful to whom? The local fire department should already know, and nobody > else should be authorized to open the hydrant anyway — though it seems the > biggest reason departments object to unauthorized access is damage caused > by using the wrong k

Re: [Tagging] drinkable vs. drinking_water

2012-07-24 Thread Jason Cunningham
On 22 July 2012 14:32, Philip Barnes wrote: > I am a native English speaker from the UK, I have never seen the term > potable used in the UK. Labels on taps use the term 'drinking water', or > 'not drinking water'. Any council using the word 'potable' is likely to > be slammed by the Campaign For

Re: [Tagging] New access tag value needed?

2012-06-01 Thread Jason Cunningham
On 1 June 2012 08:09, Martin Vonwald wrote: > But we have to make sure, that this values are only applied if real > indications (e.g. signposts) are present and not e.g. if one just > thinks that some vehicle can not drive there. > The example given is within the UK. Within the UK signs or signp

Re: [Tagging] Dispute prevention: meaning of lanes tag

2012-04-26 Thread Jason Cunningham
On 26 April 2012 10:30, Martin Vonwald wrote: > To give you an advance warning: the updated article is finished and > currently available here: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Imagic/Werkstatt > > If there are no major objections I will update the lanes article > tomorrow. > I suppose

Re: [Tagging] Dispute prevention: meaning of lanes tag

2012-04-23 Thread Jason Cunningham
On 23 April 2012 12:05, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Am 22. April 2012 16:43 schrieb Jason Cunningham >: > > I've had a look for uk guidance as the uk's ordnance survey was > mentioned, > > and a lot of older uk advice appears based around a now historic view >

Re: [Tagging] Dispute prevention: meaning of lanes tag

2012-04-22 Thread Jason Cunningham
On 22 April 2012 08:41, Martin Vonwald wrote: > Can we agree on that for narrow roads, where one can not determine the > width exactly we would recommend: > lanes=2 > width=4 > source:width=estimated > or > lanes=2 > est_width=4 > I've had a look for uk guidance as the uk's ordnance survey

Re: [Tagging] Dispute prevention: meaning of lanes tag

2012-04-20 Thread Jason Cunningham
On 20 April 2012 14:35, Philip Barnes wrote: > Which prompts another question, do we have a tag for a 'passing place'? > There is a photo of one on this page > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-track_road > Tag info shows it does highway=passing_place does get used http://taginfo.openstreetmap

Re: [Tagging] Site of Community Importance

2012-02-08 Thread Jason Cunningham
A 'site of special scientific interest' is different to a 'site of community importance', at least in the UK. A 'site of community importance' appears to be a way for the EU to notify a member countries that a piece of land should be designated a SAC. There doesn't appear to be an agreed way to map

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - playground:splash_pad

2011-07-20 Thread Jason Cunningham
y for "water play area". I'm not sure what > language convention you are referring to. Can you please explain why the > British term should have precedence? > > Doing a quick google search, it appears the term "splashpad" is used in the > U.K. > > M

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - playground:splash_pad

2011-07-19 Thread Jason Cunningham
Wasn't sure what a "splash pad" was and it looks like it's a North American term for the British "water play area"? In keeping with the language convention we should be using the British "playground=water_play_area". It's definitely a good thing to add, but I'd usually map it as an area rather th

Re: [Tagging] What exactly is a greenfield?

2010-10-05 Thread Jason Cunningham
On 5 October 2010 12:15, Richard Mann < richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com> wrote: > A greenfield site is one that is currently a field, so it should be > tagged as a field until it gets built on. Nothing should ever be > tagged "greenfield". > > A brownfield site is derelict land that was som

Re: [Tagging] football or soccer ?

2010-06-29 Thread Jason Cunningham
On 29 June 2010 22:04, Liz wrote: > I was born in working class England, and never heard it "association > football". I knew football, and I did know that it really was called > soccer. I > didn't actually meet rugby as a sport until coming to Australia. > Association Football may be the official

Re: [Tagging] football or soccer ?

2010-06-29 Thread Jason Cunningham
Well its clear I've democratically been beaten down on this topic! The best way to resolve this is to see what happens in the future. Jason On 29 June 2010 16:59, John Smith wrote: > On 30 June 2010 01:51, Richard Mann > wrote: > > In Great Britain it's soccer 950, football 600, association_f

Re: [Tagging] football or soccer ?

2010-06-29 Thread Jason Cunningham
And I'm about to edit it back to sport=association_football. The use of soccer should never have crept in to OSM. I've made it clear that I think the use of soccer will be very controversial in the UK. I could never participate in a project that labelled my teams football ground as sport=socce

Re: [Tagging] football or soccer ?

2010-06-28 Thread Jason Cunningham
Gridiron? I didn't know the there were so many versions of football in North America All this discussion of football by OSM'rs made me think of the following scene from the IT Crowd http://youtu.be/f27IqVo5-Oc Jason On 28 June 2010 23:17, John Smith wrote: > On 29 June 2010 08:10, Stephen Hope

Re: [Tagging] football or soccer ?

2010-06-28 Thread Jason Cunningham
Well done, and I'll try and add something to it. jason On 28 June 2010 13:07, John Smith wrote: > On 28 June 2010 21:41, Peteris Krisjanis wrote: > > Well, I think no one oppose this. Maybe we can collect list of other > > football wariants so list would be complete and therefore valid. > > ht

Re: [Tagging] sport=rugby

2010-06-28 Thread Jason Cunningham
I don't think there is an easy solution, and I think we should just go back and do it properly as you suggested. I guess this means an edit to the wiki football page and creating a ruby_union and rugby_league page Jason On 28 June 2010 13:11, John Smith wrote: > Currently the neither the sport

Re: [Tagging] football or soccer ?

2010-06-28 Thread Jason Cunningham
Stephen, you missed the point I was making. I dont agree with sport=football because, as you say, there are numerous versions of football out there. What I have brought into the discussion is soccer is considered an insulting word for 'association football' for 'football supporters' in the UK. In

Re: [Tagging] football or soccer ?

2010-06-27 Thread Jason Cunningham
Yes, the wiki needs to be changed to tell people not to use the insulting word 'soccer', especially as we try to use British English to stop tags getting confusing. Just using sport=football would be confusing, so I prefer sport=association_football I would also guess that using the insulting term

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Orphanage

2010-05-27 Thread Jason Cunningham
I agree with Pawel. I'd prefer 'residential home' with residents=children I think use of the word Orphanage has nearly disapeared in the UK because the word means children have permanently lost their parents, but many of children in 'children's homes' may only be there for a short period while the