Re: [Tagging] Continuous shoulder rumble strips (CSRS)

2020-12-20 Thread Jeremy Harris

On 20/12/2020 16:07, Volker Schmidt wrote:

Is there a tagging scheme for these bicycle  killers
?
I have encountered them on freeways and other major roads that allow
cyclists, in the western States of the USA.


How about

cycleway = shoulder
shoulder:barrier = rumble_strip
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - crossing=priority

2020-12-20 Thread Jeremy Harris

On 20/12/2020 14:42, Paul Allen wrote:

There may be many uncontrolled crossings (no lights, no
zebra markings) in built-up areas, mostly at junctions.  They
typically have a dropped curb with tactile paving of a
different colour (does that count as markings or not?).


I use

crossing=unmarked
tactile_paving=yes

for those.
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Re: [Tagging] sport=shooting_range vs sport=shooting + leisure=pitch

2020-12-19 Thread Jeremy Harris

On 19/12/2020 22:46, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:

is firing ordnance a leisure activity somewhere? Or a sport? leisure=range 
makes me think about golf driving ranges, but there’s already 
golf=driving_range for it.


Certainly.  Clay-pigeon shooting, for one subtype, as an example.

I think rifle-shooting was a component of a triathlon in a recent
Winter Olympic, too.
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-19 Thread Jeremy Harris

On 19/12/2020 21:41, Paul Allen wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 at 19:45, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging

I wonder whatever there is even a British English name for that
(or is hillocky an UK name?)



 They might end up being called molehills or
mounds.


traffic_calming=multi_bump  ?
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Re: [Tagging] How to put a name tag on an area with more than one type?

2020-12-16 Thread Jeremy Harris

On 16/12/2020 08:41, Ture Pålsson via Tagging wrote:

 Maybe it would be better to use a convex
hull...

and then polylabel, and then have all the labels repel each other
while being attracted to that point?

Preferably this springy attract/repel should account for the
text outline rather than the text centre-point.
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Re: [Tagging] RFC - Hazards - 2 Week Update & RFC Summary

2020-12-09 Thread Jeremy Harris

On 09/12/2020 19:43, Paul Allen wrote:

On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 at 18:13, Brian M. Sperlongano 
wrote:





Here are the ones that I think are worth considering:

- Opening or swing bridge ahead

This is already covered by the approved tag bridge:movable and its

various sub-keys that describe different types of movable bridges.



For the swing bridge, it's covered.  But the text says "Opening or swing
bridge."
I have no idea what an opening in a route might be if it's not a movable
bridge
but maybe somebody else on the list does.


Lift bridge.  Has a horizontal axis for the moving part, which moves vertically.
Think of Tower Bridge,

As opposed to a vertical axis so that the bridge roadbed can swivel in
the horizontal plane.  That would be a "swing bridge".

Both are "opening bridges".



- Hidden dip

Maybe.  There is a barely used tag hazard=dip.  Is this a permanent feature?




I don't know.  I don't recall ever seeing that sign.  But in my part of the
world we have old hump-backed bridges so it's conceivable we have
roads with hidden dips, too.


It's a hazard you want to know about if you are a car driver thinking
of an overtake.  "don't do it; an oncoming car might suddenly appear".

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Re: [Tagging] Basic cartography features missing, why?

2020-11-07 Thread Jeremy Harris

On 07/11/2020 11:13, Walker Bradley wrote:

Computing power seems to be a constraint struggle without greater fundraising 
capacity, so could there be some work done on the rendering process? Could we 
do a specific and targeted fundraising effort to improve the renderer to make 
as much use of the limited computer power we have?


Alternatively, could the rendering job be done by the client needing the
out-of-date tile, and resubmitted to the server?
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Re: [Tagging] Tagging a government job centre

2020-10-09 Thread Jeremy Harris
On 10/10/2020 00:09, António Madeira via Tagging wrote:
> I was searching for a way of tagging a government job centre and I found
> there's no suitable way of doing this.
> There's office=employment_agency which doesn't seem to fit here, cause
> it seems to correspond to private companies who work with this kind of
> services.
> 
> I thought about using the office=government scheme, with the subtag
> government=job_centre.
> You think this is ok or is there a better way?

My local one has amenity=job_centre - for which there is no doc...
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Re: [Tagging] automated edits seem to remove crossing=zebra drastically

2020-09-16 Thread Jeremy Harris
On 16/09/2020 14:26, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
> On 16/09/2020 05.57, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>> I noticed that crossing=zebra tag usage is drastically shrinking while
>> the
>> very generic crossing=marked, which was quite unpopular before (2013-2018
>> below 6000 uses) now went through the roof and is leading the tagstats
>> with
>> more than 1 million uses. What do you think about it, shouldn't we be
>> encouraging people to use more specific tags like crossing=zebra or
>> crossing=traffic_signals instead?
> 
> My understanding is that crossing=zebra is deprecated in favor of
> crossing=uncontrolled / crossing=traffic_signals. In particular, my
> understanding is that they are synonymous for (almost¹) all practical
> purposes. (Also, that crossing=marked is not desired either...)
> 
> Please explain how crossing=marked is "very generic" and what value
> crossing=zebra adds.

In the UK, at least, there is a legal distinction: motor traffic
is required to give way to pedestrians *waiting to cross* at a
zebra crossing; this does not apply for crossings that are marked
(and have feature useful to pedestrians such as refuge islands
and dropped kerbs).

I could imagine, for example, sight-challenged pedestrians wanting
to know about zebra-crossings specifically.


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