Re: [Tagging] war_memorial

2017-10-03 Thread John F. Eldredge
r Memorial is the first one in US history, to my knowledge, to list all of the American casualties. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

Re: [Tagging] tagging two former church locations, with the same name but unrelated to each other

2017-09-30 Thread John F. Eldredge
One location is in operation, one is no longer physically present or operating but has a historical marker, and one (the original location of the operating church) is missing and has no physical evidence, even a sign, at the site. On September 30, 2017 12:19:31 AM Graeme Fitzpatrick

Re: [Tagging] How to tag "agricultural centers"

2017-09-25 Thread John F. Eldredge
Here in Nashville, Tennessee, the state government has a large facility called Ellington Agricultural Center . It is not an agricultural-supply business such as you described, but rather the headquarters of the Tennessee Dept. of Agriculture,

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-08 Thread John F. Eldredge
Also, I doubt anyone in ordinary life refers to a mountain as "Mount So-and-So 2000 meters", rather than simply "Mount So-and-So". On September 8, 2017 8:36:52 AM Richard Welty wrote: On 9/8/17 7:08 AM, ael wrote: On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 03:31:37PM -0600, Mike

Re: [Tagging] Forestry/logging

2017-04-10 Thread John F. Eldredge
Just because a tract of land is being used for forestry doesn't mean it won't have streams on it, and low spots may have ponds. On April 10, 2017 2:36:20 PM Kevin Kenny wrote: On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 4:49 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

2017-03-19 Thread John F. Eldredge
This has the added complication that the way may have two-way traffic, but the sign doesn't apply to both directions. In fact, most signs don't apply to both sides of a roadway; instead, there will usually be a separate sign for both directions of travel. On March 19, 2017 2:56:02 PM yo

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-13 Thread John F. Eldredge
At least in American English, there is an intermediate term, pond, for a body of water smaller than a lake but larger than a mere wide spot in a stream. Ponds can be man-made or natural. On March 13, 2017 4:19:47 AM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2017-03-13 10:13

Re: [Tagging] Landuse for vacant lots

2017-03-13 Thread John F. Eldredge
Note that cities sometimes also include vacant lots that have not yet been built on, particularly around the outer edges. When I was a child, there was a vacant lot between our house and the next one, because the original landowner had chosen to buy two lots and build on just one of them. They

Re: [Tagging] Landuse for vacant lots

2017-03-13 Thread John F. Eldredge
Yes, that makes sense to me. Nashville, TN, where I live, has purchased some houses that were built in flood plains, demolished them, and doesn't allow anything to be built there now. The tag disused:landuse=residential seems like the logical one to use for those vacant lots. I suspect the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=courier

2017-03-10 Thread John F. Eldredge
The services offered by post offices vary from country. Post offices in the US handle letters and packages, but don't offer any of the other services you mention. The main distinction in the USA is that "post office" conventionally refers only to offices of the United States Postal Service,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=courier

2017-03-09 Thread John F. Eldredge
We already have an "amenity=post_office" tag. I note that the wiki page for that tag includes an operator subtag, for if the post office is operated by a private company rather than a government agency. The United States Postal Service is quasi-governmental; the US Constitution calls for its

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=courier

2017-03-08 Thread John F. Eldredge
Are you trying to map the location of an office of a courier service? Couriers themselves are people, and by the nature of their business have no fixed location. On March 8, 2017 3:32:23 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 08-Mar-17 08:42 PM, muzirian wrote: A company that

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Feature Proposal - Voting - tag "motorcycle friendly" for accomodations

2017-03-05 Thread John F. Eldredge
It is possible that the moderator has a backlog of messages, and hasn't reviewed it yet. On March 5, 2017 5:02:26 PM Thilo Haug wrote: There was an automatic reply, saying : "Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. [...] Either the message will get

Re: [Tagging] Mapping freeway stub ends?

2017-03-01 Thread John F. Eldredge
uction. Volker On 1 March 2017 at 05:28, John F. Eldredge <j...@jfeldredge.com> wrote: In some cases, the distinction between "abandoned" and "on indefinite hold" can be a bit blurry. One ring road here in Nashville, TN, USA was left in an incomplete state for about twe

Re: [Tagging] Mapping freeway stub ends?

2017-02-28 Thread John F. Eldredge
In some cases, the distinction between "abandoned" and "on indefinite hold" can be a bit blurry. One ring road here in Nashville, TN, USA was left in an incomplete state for about twenty years before the politicians finally allocated the money, and the last segment of the road was built. On

Re: [Tagging] A place where letters & parcels are sent to be sorted so they can be delivered?

2017-02-25 Thread John F. Eldredge
The sorting facility probably outgrew the building. In Nashville, TN, USA, where I live, the 1930s Main Post Office facility, next to a railway station, is now an art museum. The new Main Post Office facility is at least 20 times larger, and located near the main airport. It includes a small

Re: [Tagging] Dead hedge

2017-02-20 Thread John F. Eldredge
In the USA, those would commonly be referred to as a brush pile or brush row. They are commonly seen at the edge of a field that has recently been cleared of bushes and saplings. Sometimes they are left to decay in place, sometimes they are burned, and sometimes they are ground up by a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power pole extension

2017-02-15 Thread John F. Eldredge
The RMS voltage of an alternating-current electrical source is the direct-current voltage that would supply the same power into a resistive load. That is to say, imagine you have an AC power source operating a heating element, and a DC power source operating an identical heating element. The

Re: [Tagging] Dead hedge

2017-02-13 Thread John F. Eldredge
Well, I just learned a term I didn't know. I had assumed you were referring to a regular, planted hedge in which all of the bushes or trees had died. Yes, I suppose we do need a separate tag for a barrier composed of cut branches. On February 13, 2017 2:35:41 PM Marc Gemis

Re: [Tagging] Dead hedge

2017-02-13 Thread John F. Eldredge
Do we have any other cases where dead vegetation is tagged differently from living vegetation? On February 13, 2017 2:14:01 PM Marc Gemis wrote: How do you map a dead hedge? As barrier=hedge or barrier=fence with some appropriate fence_type e.g. dead_hedge ? m

Re: [Tagging] self-service laudry machines a camp and caravan sites

2017-02-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
Here in the USA, I have never seen a self-service laundry that did not have dryers, but I don't know whether that is true worldwide. I suppose it is best to err on the side of caution and include a subtag for the presence of dryers. On February 11, 2017 8:18:27 AM Martin Koppenhoefer

Re: [Tagging] Beef fattening stations

2017-02-10 Thread John F. Eldredge
The beef in turn may be used to produce other food products. Since what leaves the feed lot is the living animal, which isn't rendered into beef until it reaches the slaughterhouse, I think produce=cattle or farmland=feedlot are the best solutions. On 02/08/2017 05:48 PM, Dave Swarthout

Re: [Tagging] Beef fattening stations

2017-02-07 Thread John F. Eldredge
A breeding station is where animals are mated. This isn't normally done at a feedlot. Also, the generic term is "cattle", since you could also have heifers (young female cattle), bulls (adult male cattle), steers (castrated adult male cattle), or bullocks (young male cattle), in addition to

Re: [Tagging] Notary Office

2017-02-07 Thread John F. Eldredge
Also, a lot of businesses serve as notaries, as a side-business. The closest notary public to my house is a company that rents out private mailboxes and sells shipping supplies. I have had several documents notarized there. On 02/07/2017 01:28 PM, Richard Welty wrote: On 2/7/17 2:21 PM,

Re: [Tagging] Exit list signs?

2017-01-21 Thread John F. Eldredge
As far as I know, a node does not have a direction, so "forward" or "backward" are meaningless. A way has a direction, a node does not. On January 21, 2017 3:48:33 PM yo paseopor wrote: I think Traffic sign is a NODE, IN the way, as I map stop,give way,or city limit.

Re: [Tagging] Roads with no speed limits

2016-09-03 Thread John F. Eldredge
One city street here in Nashville, TN, USA went several decades with no speed limit signs at all. Then, one day, it suddenly had "Speed Limit 30 MPH" signs every few hundred feet. My guess is that someone successfully argued their way out of a speeding ticket, stating that they weren't

Re: [Tagging] shop=marine RFC

2016-03-30 Thread John F. Eldredge
In the 19th century, a chandler was someone who made and sold candles, and so there were many chandlers who didn't deal in nautical supplies. When did the meaning shift? On March 14, 2016 6:50:22 AM Richard wrote: On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 07:20:46AM +, Malcolm

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Discourage tourism=gallery

2016-02-12 Thread John F. Eldredge
I am dubious about tagging the artists that the gallery represents, since this is likely to change on a fairly frequent basis. My impression is that most exhibitions are only for a period of a week or two, meaning that the tag information would frequently be out of date. On 02/03/2016 02:52

Re: [Tagging] Question reg. wheelchair mapping

2016-01-24 Thread John F. Eldredge
The width is important as well. I have been on footpaths that slanted downward across the face of a steep incline. The slope of the path was moderate, but the path was only about half a meter wide, with 45-degree slopes above and below the path. A person on foot could navigate the path

Re: [Tagging] Tagging scrap yards, junkyards

2016-01-24 Thread John F. Eldredge
The only "waste transfer stations" I am aware of in my area are companies that empty garbage from huge "dumpster" garbage bins at apartment complexes and businesses, then ship the garbage to landfills. Unlike a scrapyard, there is no long-term storage involved. On 01/20/2016 11:31 AM, Andy

Re: [Tagging] RFD tag:shop=camera?

2015-06-05 Thread John F. Eldredge
Agreed. If you look at all of what I said, I was arguing that concerns about how many types of things could be rendered should not prevent detailed tagging. It is always possible to go from a complex data set to a simplified rendering; going from a simple data set to a complex rendering is

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

2015-05-23 Thread John F. Eldredge
Electric outlets that have a USB-style connector, for charging cell phones and other portable devices, are fairly new. I don't recall seeing any until about a year ago. So, there is not yet a common name for them, to distinguish them from conventional electric outlets that offer only 120V AC.

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread John F. Eldredge
The water feature we are talking about here is an artificial waterfall, usually pump-driven. On May 22, 2015 9:19:44 AM Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 02:00:30PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 22.05.2015 um 13:35 schrieb Andy Mabbett

Re: [Tagging] Estate agent

2015-05-19 Thread John F. Eldredge
://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com (615) 299-6451 Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. -- Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Pet Relief Areas

2015-05-16 Thread John F. Eldredge
list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com (615) 299-6451 Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. -- Martin Luther King, Jr

Re: [Tagging] Maxspeed

2015-05-15 Thread John F. Eldredge
/listinfo/tagging -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com (615) 299-6451 Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. -- Martin Luther King, Jr.___ Tagging mailing list Tagging

Re: [Tagging] surface=pebbles - surface=pebblestone ?

2015-05-12 Thread John F. Eldredge
In American usage, gravel refers to both rounded and unrounded stones of similar size. For example, concrete often makes use of crushed stone in the gravel size; it is angular rather than rounded. Pea gravel is often used as an ornamental surface layer for concrete, but not for use within a

Re: [Tagging] shop=confectionery / pastry / candy / sweets

2015-05-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
In the same way, there is a tradition of boiled cookies in the USA, that are on the borderline between cookies (biscuits, in British terminology) and candy. They involve a sticky, sweetened grain, most commonly oatmeal (rolled oats). Here is an example:

Re: [Tagging] Tagging village sign

2015-05-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
In the USA, such signs are more commonly at or near the edge of the community, so that you see what community you are entering, rather than at its center. Also, while some communities have a public square, not all do so. On May 8, 2015 4:50:37 AM CDT, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)

Re: [Tagging] surface=pebbles - surface=pebblestone ?

2015-05-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
Speaking as an American, I would refer to that as a mix of cobbles and setts (some of the stones in the photo look rounded, some squared, and some irregular). They appear ti be about the size of a human palm. I think of pebbles as rocks of finger-diameter or less, such as the pea gravel often

Re: [Tagging] HOT: potential Helicopter landings leisure=common

2015-05-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
This is definitely something that needs a site survey. On May 11, 2015 6:00:29 AM CDT, pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com wrote: There are a number of reasons we shouldn't tag random places as potential emergency helipads: - Ground conditions - overhead obstructions - don't think we're

Re: [Tagging] shop=confectionery / pastry / candy / sweets

2015-05-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
Minor nitpick: desserts are sweet foods, usually eaten at the end of a meal. Deserts are areas with little rainfall, and sparse or no vegetation. On May 11, 2015 6:17:08 PM CDT, moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/05/2015, Andreas Goss andi...@t-online.de wrote: Pastry-only shops

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-05-06 Thread John F. Eldredge
I am using K-9, an open-source Android app. On May 5, 2015 6:35:40 PM CDT, David Bannon dban...@internode.on.net wrote: On Tue, 2015-05-05 at 18:22 -0500, John F. Eldredge wrote: It has been many years since I last went tent-camping, but my experience of campgrounds in the US national park

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-05-05 Thread John F. Eldredge
It has been many years since I last went tent-camping, but my experience of campgrounds in the US national park system was numbered poles marking each campsite, a grassy area for pitching a tent, and a charcoal grill mounted on a steel pole. You weren't allowed to cut brush or to have a fire on

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - opening hours default PH off

2015-04-30 Thread John F. Eldredge
discretion and will vary from year to year. Phil (trigpoint ) -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. -- Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Way inside riverbank

2015-04-22 Thread John F. Eldredge
at 10:47 AM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: The location of the deepest channel can change over time, as mudbanks or sandbanks shift position. This is why commercial vessels operating on rivers frequently rely upon a succession of pilots, each familiar with a particular

Re: [Tagging] addr:interpolation on highway

2015-04-22 Thread John F. Eldredge
? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out

Re: [Tagging] Way inside riverbank

2015-04-20 Thread John F. Eldredge
mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. -- Martin Luther King, Jr

Re: [Tagging] Straw pole Temperature=objective default unit?

2015-04-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
other languages besides Italian, which is broken also for many other symbols ;-) cheers Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-08 Thread John F. Eldredge
/tagging -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. -- Martin Luther King, Jr.___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [Tagging] Micro- and macromapping with area=*

2015-03-31 Thread John F. Eldredge
___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. -- Martin Luther King, Jr

Re: [Tagging] Tagging method of amenities at camp_sites

2015-03-30 Thread John F. Eldredge
/tagging -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. -- Martin Luther King, Jr.___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

2015-03-26 Thread John F. Eldredge
://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. -- Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Historic tower

2015-03-23 Thread John F. Eldredge
-- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. -- Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

2015-03-19 Thread John F. Eldredge
/tagging -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. -- Martin Luther King, Jr.___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [Tagging] Subject: Re: Deleting private objects in private spaces

2015-03-17 Thread John F. Eldredge
What I mean is, does the software allow you to specify that only objects with access permitting the general public, or access=private with only specified values of the operator tag, be rendered? -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do

Re: [Tagging] Deleting private objects in private spaces

2015-03-17 Thread John F. Eldredge
Does the default rendering on the slippy map on OSM's main page show private objects? If it does, then there is a loss of privacy. If it doesn't, then there is a loss of feedback to mappers. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do

Re: [Tagging] Blatant tagging for the renderer: bridges abandoned railways

2015-03-09 Thread John F. Eldredge
How does it help mappers see what they have mapped to not show a large structure which has been mapped and which is physically present? -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Dr

Re: [Tagging] Blatant tagging for the renderer: bridges abandoned railways

2015-03-09 Thread John F. Eldredge
If the bridges are still present, the map should render them even if the rails and railbeds on either side of the bridge have been removed. After all, we are supposed to map the ground truth, and if the bridge is still present, that is the ground truth. -- John F. Eldredge -- j

Re: [Tagging] route=foot

2015-03-02 Thread John F. Eldredge
Speaking from an American point of view, I tend to think of hiking as a wilderness, or at least rural, activity. In an urban setting, I would likely refer to walking. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

2015-02-24 Thread John F. Eldredge
in the near future. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. On February 24, 2015 4:46:52 AM Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 24, 2015

Re: [Tagging] Canopy radius for natural=tree

2015-02-23 Thread John F. Eldredge
True. English usually has an adjective followed by a noun. I would guess that diameter crown was probably written by someone more familiar with a language where adjectives follow nouns. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate

Re: [Tagging] tag for portages?

2015-02-22 Thread John F. Eldredge
I think the wooden portages he refers to are a series of wooden rollers one would roll the canoe along, to avoid having to carry the full weight. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - parking=storage: additional values for key parking

2015-02-21 Thread John F. Eldredge
If the use of the vehicle storage is limited to certain people, such as residents of a particular neighborhood, use access tags as well. It then becomes the responsibility of the renderer to check these tags. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-20 Thread John F. Eldredge
Given that both the multiple-path and single-path definitions are in use, the OSM definition of labyrinth should not exclude either one. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Dr

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-20 Thread John F. Eldredge
Labyrinths aren't usually defined as having only one way through them. They normally have side passages, although, like other mazes, there may be only one path that will succeed in taking you all of the way to the exit. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-20 Thread John F. Eldredge
. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. On February 20, 2015 1:43:59 PM Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:24 AM, John F

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - key:rubbish=

2015-02-19 Thread John F. Eldredge
of the alternatives I have seen. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that. -- Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - power_supply=intermittent

2015-02-17 Thread John F. Eldredge
, this is useful to know, but can't be covered by a schedule tag. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that. -- Martin Luther King, Jr

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - key:rubbish=

2015-02-17 Thread John F. Eldredge
). -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that. -- Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - temperature

2015-02-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
a heat source such as an oil-burning or gas-burning furnace as the winter heat source. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that. -- Martin Luther King, Jr

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - temperature

2015-02-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
On February 11, 2015 6:16:39 PM CST, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/02/2015 10:25 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote: On February 11, 2015 3:59:45 PM CST, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/02/2015 3:45 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Most air conditioners here have the ability to both

Re: [Tagging] Access restrictions for shoulder lanes?

2015-02-09 Thread John F. Eldredge
on Interstates. I don't have the percentages by highway mile available, but I would call a 72% majority the norm. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that. -- Martin Luther King, Jr

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reception Desk

2015-02-07 Thread John F. Eldredge
/listinfo/tagging I suspect what was meant was an amenity node contained within a larger entity that was mapped as something other than amenity. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reception Desk

2015-02-06 Thread John F. Eldredge
. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that. -- Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reception Desk

2015-02-06 Thread John F. Eldredge
the reception desk for the entire building, and also reception desks for individual office suites within that building. This is a common circumstance when a building contains offices for several different companies. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a cistern?

2015-02-03 Thread John F. Eldredge
On February 3, 2015 3:05:53 AM CST, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On Feb 2, 2015 3:11 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:54 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: Once again, we are divided by a common language. In American

Re: [Tagging] Wiki on amenity=waste_disposal Rewrite?

2015-02-03 Thread John F. Eldredge
to them, rather than the toilets being transported to a dump station. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that. -- Martin Luther King, Jr

Re: [Tagging] RFD Camp ground Kitchens and their fittings

2015-02-02 Thread John F. Eldredge
, Dave Thanks. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging Ablution is cleaning oneself. Abolition is abolishing (ending) some practice, such as abolishing slavery. -- John F. Eldredge -- j

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a cistern?

2015-02-02 Thread John F. Eldredge
are divided by a common language. In American usage, a cistern is a holding tank for captured rain water, used as an alternative to a well in areas where no city water supply is available. They often take the form of an underground pit with a waterproof lining. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com

Re: [Tagging] Lifecycle concepts, REMOVED

2015-01-28 Thread John F. Eldredge
mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging Well, you also have the status proposed, but no start date set, which would fit some subdivision maps I have seen. I am not sure how one would tag that. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

2015-01-27 Thread John F. Eldredge
Catholic sense of no-longer-living humans who serve as intermediaries between living humans and God. We colloquially refer to some of the early church leaders as saints, referring to Saint Peter or Saint Paul, but feel that prayers should be directed to God, not to any lesser being. -- John F

Re: [Tagging] Shop for watches

2015-01-25 Thread John F. Eldredge
glancing at my wrist. It is still common to see people wearing watches. I now wear a smartwatch, meaning that I can check who called or texted me without having to pull out and unlock my phone. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do

Re: [Tagging] Wiki Edit War on using/avoiding semicolon lists

2015-01-24 Thread John F. Eldredge
. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging Agreed. Ad hominem attacks aren't a suitable way to discuss OSM issues. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do

Re: [Tagging] Tagging road illumination quality

2015-01-17 Thread John F. Eldredge
You could use a light meter to measure how bright the light is. That isn't the only factor in the suitability of the lighting, but it is objective. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can

Re: [Tagging] waterway=wadi problem

2015-01-15 Thread John F. Eldredge
, only the frequency of rainfall is different. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. -- Martin Luther King, Jr. On January 15, 2015 3:13:38 AM Christoph Hormann chris_horm

Re: [Tagging] Boundary Relations. What's a subarea used for?

2015-01-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
In the same manner, in some US states, cities and towns are subordinate to counties. In some other US states, such as Virginia, towns are subordinate to counties but cities are on the same administrative level as counties. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out

Re: [Tagging] correct access tagging for tourist attraction

2015-01-03 Thread John F. Eldredge
That is how I had interpreted access=destination also. Just because it has a specific legal meaning in the UK doesn't mean the tag can't be used elsewhere in the world. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out

Re: [Tagging] Change of rendering: place of worship and, terminal without building tag

2015-01-03 Thread John F. Eldredge
The situation in India could mean that a congregation was meeting on that site, and planned to construct a building there, but had not yet done so. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can

Re: [Tagging] correct access tagging for tourist attraction

2015-01-03 Thread John F. Eldredge
:00 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net: John F. Eldredge wrote: That is how I had interpreted access=destination also. Just because it has a specific legal meaning in the UK doesn't mean the tag can't be used elsewhere in the world. Absolutely - this is true of pretty much every

Re: [Tagging] lanes=-1 especially in Canada

2014-12-30 Thread John F. Eldredge
pause to allow a vehicle going the other direction to pass by. Given how sparsely-populated some of the northern regions of Canada are, I would not be surprised to find some one-lane roads, and some extensive areas with no roads at all. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness

Re: [Tagging] lanes=-1 especially in Canada

2014-12-30 Thread John F. Eldredge
On 12/30/2014 03:16 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote: On 12/29/2014 04:16 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: I rolled the map-roulette wheel, and found a series of highways in Canada marked with lanes=-1, all part of a CANVEC import. I see 17,943 uses of this value: it's less popular than 5 lanes but more

Re: [Tagging] [tagging] Amenity=Ufficio_Pubblico

2014-12-16 Thread John F. Eldredge
of governmental buildings and services. Your input is appreciated. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/landuse%3Dcivic javbw On Dec 16, 2014, at 7:30 AM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: On 12/15/2014 08:31 AM, Simone Savio wrote: Hi propose

Re: [Tagging] Moveable objects tagged as building=*

2014-12-16 Thread John F. Eldredge
. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. -- Dr. Martin Luther

Re: [Tagging] [tagging] Amenity=Ufficio_Pubblico

2014-12-15 Thread John F. Eldredge
? An information office? The concept exists in English. Ufficio pubblico looks like it would translate as public office; again, the concept exists in English. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can

Re: [Tagging] Distinction between amenity=restaurant and fast_food

2014-12-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
/tagging -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [Tagging] Distinction between amenity=restaurant and fast_food

2014-12-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
/tagging -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [Tagging] Distinction between amenity=restaurant and fast_food

2014-12-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
I would not be surprised to find some establishments where the emphasis is on food up through mid-evening, but the kitchen closes earlier than the bar does, leaving the final hours of operation to offer only beverages and perhaps some precooked snack food. -- John F. Eldredge -- j

Re: [Tagging] man_made=adit_entrance

2014-12-08 Thread John F. Eldredge
to more than just the entrance to the mine. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water tap

2014-12-06 Thread John F. Eldredge
@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr

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