Re: [Tagging] Is there any tagging scheme for carillons already?

2020-05-06 Thread Max
I can add some carillon fun facts (with implications for OSM): The largest Carillon in Europe is in Halle (Saale) [1] with 76 bells. They actually aimed for being the largest in the world but did bad research. Turns out there are two bigger ones with 77 bells in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan in

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Small electric vehicles

2019-11-23 Thread Max
On 22.11.19 20:52, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 22. Nov 2019, at 19:18, s8evq wrote: So in Belgium, I think we do need a specific access tag for speed pedelecs. People have been using moped_p=* for a while now, but this never went through the proposal process. are

Re: [Tagging] shop selling trucks

2019-11-17 Thread Max
. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo_SpJPJSs4 On 17.11.19 00:37, Philip Barnes wrote: Lorry has largely fallen out of use, truck is the more used word in British English nowadays. Phil (trigpoint) On Saturday, 16 November 2019, Max wrote: Given that OSM language is British it probably should

Re: [Tagging] shop selling trucks

2019-11-17 Thread Max
VW Group has controlling stakes in MAN and Scania, maybe that's what he meant? On 17.11.19 19:21, Marc Gemis wrote: AFAIK, VW does not sell lorries/hgv/trucks. Their commercial vehicles are pick ups and vans (caddy/transporter/crafter) The largest, has a GVW of 5t. Which tags do we have to

Re: [Tagging] shop selling trucks

2019-11-16 Thread Max
Given that OSM language is British it probably should be "lorry" not "truck". On 16.11.19 18:21, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I have found a shop that sells Volvo and Volkswagen commercial vehicles (large trucks). Looking in the wiki, it suggested the tag shop=car should/could also be used for

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 117, Issue 95 "copying 1 fact from another database"

2019-06-29 Thread Max
This is not tagging related and thus this list is not the right place for this discussion. This has been said multiple times before and still you did not take it elsewhere. Seems like a pattern. On 29.06.19 18:49, Ulrich Lamm wrote: Am 26.06.2019 um 11:22 schrieb

Re: [Tagging] 2 meaning for crossing=zebra

2018-10-26 Thread Max
On 26.10.18 11:27, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Often there are also other signs on traffic signal controlled intersections, like stop or give way signs, which only go into effect in the case of the traffic lights turned off (common situation in Germany). Just to clarify: In Germany you have

Re: [Tagging] tagging bicycle charging stations

2018-06-27 Thread Max
On 27.06.2018 17:39, marc marc wrote: Le 27. 06. 18 à 16:28, Paul Allen a écrit : On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 3:13 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: I encountered public charging station for electric bicycles. did you upload the photo somewhere ?

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Sauna

2018-06-11 Thread Max
On 11.06.2018 19:28, Jyri-Petteri Paloposki wrote: Number eight sounds like it would fit in this ”experience”, so we should probably add that one. Is there a western spelling for that? The romanization reads Jjimjilbang https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jjimjilbang

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Sauna

2018-06-11 Thread Max
Great idea to make the sauna key more useful. But it should be looked at in more detail and with less of a Finnish bias. :) Some questions that the tag should address: 1. How to tag a place which has several individual saunas? 1b. What about other sauna related amenities like cold pools (how

Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

2018-02-19 Thread Max
On 19.02.2018 11:48, joost schouppe wrote: Hollow way is probably a germanism; it's what sunken lanes are literally Right: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=hohlweg=images ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Metro Mapping

2017-11-17 Thread Max
On 2017년 11월 17일 08:01, José G Moya Y. wrote: Martin, I don't think authorities welcome a detailed map of inner areas in stations/airports. They will show a security concern. This was never a concern in OSM and it hopefully never will be. There can't be (self)censorship.

Re: [Tagging] passage only on low tide

2017-11-04 Thread Max
On 2017년 11월 04일 20:29, Andy Townsend wrote: On 04/11/2017 07:04, Max wrote: How to tag a way that is only passable for 3 hours during low tide? If it helps anyone, an example of the sort of object with this restriction is http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/177021004 .  I wouldn't take "

[Tagging] passage only on low tide

2017-11-04 Thread Max
How to tag a way that is only passable for 3 hours during low tide? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] airstrip vs runway

2017-10-09 Thread Max
On 2017년 10월 09일 09:38, Andrew Davidson wrote: I think we may be drifting away from Warin's original question. If you look at the LINZ meta-data: http://apps.linz.govt.nz/topo-data-dictionary/index.aspx?page=class-runway_poly their definition of what an airstrip is: "an area that consists

Re: [Tagging] contact:* for review websites

2017-09-15 Thread Max
On 2017년 09월 16일 00:56, Tom Pfeifer wrote: I have seen a few mappers recently adding contact:[ yelp | tripadvisor | foursquare ] to businesses. IMHO these are not means of contact, instead these are review websites. While I personally think that we do not need them in OSM at all, they

Re: [Tagging] Australian Solar Challenge Race

2017-05-19 Thread Max
On 2017년 05월 19일 15:21, Tijmen Stam wrote: On 19-05-17 13:04, Warin wrote: Hi, There is a relationhttp://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7107501#map=5/-24.173/134.723 for the World Solar Challenge that runs from Darwin to Adelaide. Presently tagged with; route=raceway highway=raceway

Re: [Tagging] New access key for Segway needed

2017-03-13 Thread Max
On 2017년 03월 13일 12:17, Dalibor Jelínek wrote: Does it include skateboards, vehicles for disabled? Nope, they do not have that autobalancing device. Do the devices have to have motors? Aparently no. Those two contradict. If it is self balancing it needs a motor. Maybe interesting in this

Re: [Tagging] landuse=logging

2017-01-05 Thread Max
On 2017년 01월 05일 21:36, Volker Schmidt wrote: Maybe landuse=logging is used to indicate a tree plantation for logging as opposed to a forest where wood production is not the main purpose. I thought that this is exactly what a landuse=forest is. A plantation of trees to be cut down. The other

Re: [Tagging] test track tagging (vs highway=raceway)

2016-10-25 Thread Max
There are also test tracks/circuits that are part of the public streets and just marked with tiny signs. On 2016년 10월 20일 17:46, Richard Welty wrote: i don't have a particular proposal in mind for this, just looking for input. there are various tracks in the world that are not used for

Re: [Tagging] Bus bays

2016-08-29 Thread Max
BTW, I've seen that in some places the bus bays are removed and replaced by the opposite. Bus peninsulas if you want. that makes the traffic stop when a bus is at the bus stop and removes the dangerous situation of a car overtaking while a bus is at the stop. On 2016년 08월 28일 23:15, Michael

Re: [Tagging] Art galleries/museums

2016-02-24 Thread Max
here. :/ > > 2016-02-17 13:30 GMT+01:00 Max <abonneme...@revolwear.com > <mailto:abonneme...@revolwear.com>>: > > > +0.5, I'd actually make the latter contemporary_art_gallery, although > it is long, it removes the ambiguity that a

Re: [Tagging] Voting rules

2016-02-24 Thread Max
On 2016년 02월 24일 11:26, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > "there's not much we can do about it" - this is simply untrue. Editors > and map rendering have great power. With power comes responsibility. In my view the responsibility to make a map/rendering that distinguishes itself from all the commercial

Re: [Tagging] Galleries versus art shops

2016-02-15 Thread Max
On 2016년 02월 15일 02:03, Warin wrote: > To me a 'gallery' is a place that displays art .. not sells it. So Have you followed the two threads of discussion at all before sending this? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Art galleries/museums

2016-02-11 Thread Max
On 2016년 01월 26일 15:53, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 26 January 2016 at 14:12, Marc Zoutendijk wrote: >>> I would like : >>> - discourage tourism=gallery >>> - subtype of tourism=museum, museum=art just like >>> museum=railway/history, and further art=painting/... >>> - also

Re: [Tagging] Art galleries/museums

2016-02-11 Thread Max
On 2016년 01월 25일 23:44, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > Hi all, > > The wiki defines the tag tourism=gallery as 'an area or typically a > building that displays a variety of visual art exhibitions' [1]. This > is an officially approved tag [2]. In addition, the wiki page on > tourism=museum [3]

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Discourage tourism=gallery

2016-02-08 Thread Max
should introduce amenity=art_gallery or something similar. max On 2016년 02월 08일 23:54, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > On 1 February 2016 at 20:56, Dave F <davefoxfa...@btinternet.com> > wrote: >> Sorry, but a gallery is not a museum > > I'm still a bit confused by this. Wou

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Discourage tourism=gallery

2016-02-03 Thread Max
On 2016년 02월 03일 10:27, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I'd prefer amenity=museum, but I see that putting it under the tourism > key is quite established so it would have to be discussed if a change > would make sense (if it hurts less to do this change one and forever or > if it is better to bear

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Discourage tourism=gallery

2016-02-02 Thread Max
On 2016년 02월 02일 04:16, Warin wrote: > No. OSM amenity - important facilities. LOL. you mean important facilities like bar, bbq, biergarten, ice_cream, brothel, casino, cinema, gambling, nightclub, stripclub, swingerclub, dojo, game_feeding, > Tourism is the correct key in this instance, a place

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Discourage tourism=gallery

2016-02-02 Thread Max
On 2016년 02월 02일 04:16, Warin wrote: >> However, the English word "Gallery" doesn't seem to have this specific >> meaning. Merriam-Webster includes "sculptures, etc" >> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gallery > > Picking nits; > Merriam-Webster is American English. > OSM policy is to

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Discourage tourism=gallery

2016-02-02 Thread Max
space sense, but that doesn't make it an art gallery. It's a museum (which has some thematic rooms/exhibition spaces a.k.a. "galleries"). Does it make sense? Max ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Discourage tourism=gallery

2016-02-01 Thread Max
Browsing in the wiki I can see where all the confusion comes from. Basically the wiki is saying that anything showing art is a gallery, while the word museum is reserved for science and history. Obviously that's not the case and should be fixed. On 2016년 02월 01일 23:40, Matthijs Melissen wrote:

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Discourage tourism=gallery

2016-02-01 Thread Max
No, that's not the difference. A museum is an institution which shows art works so that the public can see them. The art works are usually by established artists. Shows are curated thematically by curators. A gallery is showing art to the public. There is the possibility of purchase, but it is

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Discourage tourism=gallery

2016-02-01 Thread Max
On 2016년 02월 02일 00:03, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > On 1 February 2016 at 22:17, Max <abonneme...@revolwear.com> wrote: >> Those are clearly museums, not galleries and they are correctly tagged >> as museums. Sorry to say this, but that sentence clearly shows OP has >> no

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Discourage tourism=gallery

2016-02-01 Thread Max
I second this. Gallery, Museum and a shop that sells art are completely different things. "I had a look at some famous galleries: the MoMA in New York, the Uffizi in Florence, the National Gallery of Art in Washington DC, the Van Gogh Museum in Amsterdam, the Musée d'Orsay in Paris, and the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Discourage tourism=gallery

2016-02-01 Thread Max
On 2016년 02월 02일 00:38, Max wrote: > Browsing in the wiki I can see where all the confusion comes from. > Basically the wiki is saying that anything showing art is a gallery, > while the word museum is reserved for science and history. Ironically the image in the wiki for tourism=mus

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Discourage tourism=gallery

2016-02-01 Thread Max
: > Thanks Max - that sounds clear and objective to me, and from an informed > source. > > Why don't we just copy this text to the wiki so (with a bit of luck) > newly tagged museums/galleries/shops will follow this pattern. Then we > can discuss the relative merits of a wholesale retagg

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Discourage tourism=gallery

2016-02-01 Thread Max
On 2016년 02월 02일 01:17, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I think there is a need for sub tags in tourism=museum so that we can > distinguish between a science, history, tech, or art museum. > > actually if you call a gallery like the national gallery or the > Gemäldegalerie in Berlin an

[Tagging] tank barrier

2015-12-31 Thread Max
how do you tag this barrier: https://www.flickr.com/photos/zaruka/2945111565 there are also types that are just pillars on the side of the road that are loaded with explosives and fall on the street to block it. ___ Tagging mailing list