Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

2017-09-09 Thread Nick Hocking
t seems that the Emergency shelter situation for Hurricane Irma is very dynamic with over 200 new shelters being opened in just one day. Apparently the Red Cross have released an app (using Google Maps) that tracks the emergency shelters and also indicates which ones can't accept new evacuees

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

2017-09-08 Thread Nick Hocking
Eric wrote " This is an open database and we all "garden" the data to make sure that the information is correct." I think that information critical to safety needs a higher level of verification than just peer review. So the argument comes down to what is critical information. I normal times,

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

2017-09-07 Thread Nick Hocking
Eric wrote "Why would you delete data that is still valid and useful?" My concern is that if these are permanent features, then people will say "ooh - they'll be the same as last time" and of course they probably won't be the same as last time and we may route people to a wrong place, with

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Evacuation Route

2017-09-07 Thread Nick Hocking
Hi Eric, I noticed that in one of the briefings , the Govoner of Florida mentioned that Goggle was going to dynamically change their "evacuation routes", should one become unavailable. Will this proposal contain alternate evacuation routes, and an indication by whom and when they would be

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

2017-09-07 Thread Nick Hocking
Marc wrote "*open=yes/no *except this one. what do you mean ?" Yes, I agree , this one is silly and means nothing. They are always open, and if closed will be just deleted from the map. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

2017-09-07 Thread Nick Hocking
The list of emergency centers would be very much dependent on where the threat is and what the nature of the threat is. Therefore I see these as being loaded (by the relevant authorities) only when a state of emergency is declared and only for the areas affected. These locations would therefore

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

2017-09-07 Thread Nick Hocking
Marc wrote "The social facility shelter https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:social_facility%3Dshelter mentions emergency shelter." Yes it does, although I would think that these would usually be of limited capacity and meant for use at all times. I think we need tagging for large scale

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

2017-09-06 Thread Nick Hocking
Gerd wrote "I think amenity=shelter is well established " Yes, I read that but saw that it said "a small place", so it doesn't seem appropriate for disaster relief situations. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

[Tagging] Emergency shelters

2017-09-06 Thread Nick Hocking
Do we have a tagging scheme for emergency shelters to be used in times of natural disasters? Off the top of my head I could see tags such as emergency=shelter protects_from= wind flood radiation/nuclear fallout fire earthquake bomb blast pet=yes/no bed=yes/no water=yes/no food=yes/no

Re: [Tagging] More no_u_turn

2016-09-06 Thread Nick Hocking
My suggestion is only for intersections. U_turns along a road are a whole new ball-game and are dependant on inter carriageway markings that are not normally tagged. I think these turns are best left to the driver, the map-data and the router should ignore them. Cheers Nick

Re: [Tagging] More no_u_turn

2016-09-05 Thread Nick Hocking
What would be really easy and flexible would be to tag u_turn=no on a node. This would mean that this node is not allowed to take part in a u_turn manouver either as part of a from a to or a via. Since most traffic light intersections seem to be all 4 way no u_turn, all we need is one tage on

Re: [Tagging] More no_u_turn

2016-09-04 Thread Nick Hocking
Hans wrote "I had the same question On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 9:57 PM, Nick Hocking https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging>> wrote: >* A car travelling westbound on an undivided road is about to cross a *>* north/south divided road at traffic lights. *> >* We

[Tagging] More no_u_turn

2016-09-03 Thread Nick Hocking
A car travelling westbound on an undivided road is about to cross a north/south divided road at traffic lights. We wish to prevent the car from doing a U-turn at this intersection. Do we have to put in two no_u_turn restrictions, one for each of the north/south carriageways. If we only need

Re: [Tagging] Permissive turn restrictions

2016-09-03 Thread Nick Hocking
Would it be a reasonable solution to have area defaults tagged into the boundary relation/polygon that defines that area. (e.g an administrative boundary). For example, we could have values similar to "unsigned residential ways" - maxspeed 50 U-turn at traffic signals yes/no unsigned motorway

[Tagging] Permissive turn restrictions

2016-09-01 Thread Nick Hocking
Hi, Apparently, in Australia the default rule at traffic lights is that u-turns are not permitted. At some ,there are signs saying " U Turn permitted". How do we tag this. Turn restriction seem to be either mandatory (only) or prohibitive (no) but I think we need a permissive one, maybe