Re: [Tagging] Rio de la Plata edit war

2020-08-01 Thread Paul Norman via Tagging
On 2020-08-01 9:26 a.m., Alan Mackie wrote: Perhaps I am an overly literal follower of the wiki, but I had always assumed the coastline should continue inland as far as the tide continues to be noticeable. Mediterranean mapping might be an issue, but elsewhere I think this is fairly clear?

Re: [Tagging] Rio de la Plata edit war

2020-08-01 Thread Paul Norman via Tagging
On 2020-07-31 8:21 a.m., Andy Townsend wrote: On 26/05/2020 00:20, Alan Mackie wrote: Has this edit war stabilised? Apparently it has been blocking coastline updates across the whole world for /months /now. https://osmdata.openstreetmap.de/data/land-polygons.html

Re: [Tagging] Tag:amenity=motorcycle_taxi not approved

2020-05-07 Thread Paul Norman via Tagging
On 2020-05-07 11:49 a.m., Joseph Eisenberg wrote: So, what's the next step? As a next step, I'd map motorcycle taxis as amenity=motorcycle_taxi. Vote with your mapping. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Route names that aren’t names

2020-04-02 Thread Paul Norman via Tagging
On 2020-04-02 2:33 p.m., Yves wrote: Surely this can be fixed if needed, but Osm2pgsql still has a route_name column? osm2pgsql doesn't have any columns. It will produce a database with the columns you tell it to, transformed how you tell it to.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Public Transport v3

2020-03-06 Thread Paul Norman via Tagging
On 2020-03-06 9:22 a.m., Peter Elderson wrote: That sounds even more odd to me... what if it doesn't match? Do we have authoritative gpx-es for routers? No. There is no one true route between two points, so there can't be an authoritative router.

Re: [Tagging] Apps of delivery

2019-05-15 Thread Paul Norman via Tagging
On 2019-05-15 2:32 a.m., Philip Barnes wrote: We have deliveroo operating locally, however I have never seen verifiable evidence on the restaurants that they offer that service. Deliveroo might not, but there are delivery services that are indicated on restaurant doors here.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boundary=aboriginal_lands

2018-11-24 Thread Paul Norman
On 2018-11-24 4:38 PM, Alan McConchie wrote: Here's the overpass query for boundary=aboriginal_lands:http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/DV4 There has also been extensive discussion over the years on the boundary=aboriginal_lands page, and it seems like the consensus is that the tag is necessary and

Re: [Tagging] Traffic sign direction tagging..

2018-10-01 Thread Paul Norman
On Sep 29, 2018 9:40 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote: Alas, I don't have much hope that the pull request will be accepted. I've asked the upstream developers several times if they could possibly review the proposed functionality (I've at least a draft at a formal proposal -

Re: [Tagging] Truck Parking

2017-06-03 Thread Paul Norman
On 6/2/2017 4:08 PM, Warin wrote: At present I have; hgv=yes/designated and capacity:hgv=yes/number Are there any others? I am tempted to use both of the above tags - covers any future preference. Thoughts? The first would indicate that the parking is usable or designated for truck

Re: [Tagging] Moving forwards with multi-valued attributes

2017-01-23 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/23/2017 12:46 PM, Colin Smale wrote: Can you point to an illustrative example of leadership on the subject of MVAs? The data model used to support having the same key twice with different values. It no longer does. ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Moving forwards with multi-valued attributes

2017-01-23 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/23/2017 1:42 AM, Colin Smale wrote: This subject has been discussed so many times in the past, over several years. It seems that OSM is incapable of moving forward. The current data model does not accommodate multi-valued attributes It used to, then we moved forward to one that doesn't,

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] destination:street

2017-01-20 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/19/2017 5:00 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: Looking at a random one, http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/34154734 / http://openstreetcam.org/details/10767/4194 — I think in the US we would just map this as destination=Carman Road;Iriquois and destination:ref=1 That is how it would be

Re: [Tagging] OSM in French and Dutch [or any monolingual]

2016-08-11 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/11/2016 9:38 AM, André Pirard wrote: Someone asked on Twitter about a rendering of OSM in Dutch and French to avoid the clutter of bilingual names in the standard rendering. https://twitter.com/iciBrussels/status/762743820358418432 The French render is easy, OSM France provides it. But

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Parklets

2016-05-10 Thread Paul Norman
On 5/9/2016 4:25 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: One of the main characteristics seems to me that it is semi-permanent : "A parklet may be thought of as permanent, but must be designed for quick and easy removal for emergencies or other reasons such as snow removal without damage to the curb or street"

Re: [Tagging] Inconsistent road refs

2016-02-06 Thread Paul Norman
On 2/3/2016 1:35 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: why isn't it signed any more? Has the route stopped to "exist" and they removed the signs on purpose (but just haven't finished yet hence the signs on the crossing roads)? I would tag "old_ref" for situations where the ref is no longer valid, but

[Tagging] Inconsistent road refs

2016-02-02 Thread Paul Norman
There is a stretch of local highway which used to be signed with a ref, but no longer is. On the other hand, most of the intersecting roads still show that this highway has the old ref. Some other parts of the road remain signed. The two options for tagging seem to be ref=123 or old_ref=123.

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: Sunset ref=* on ways in favor of relations

2015-11-12 Thread Paul Norman
On 11/10/2015 11:20 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: I thought the problem was a 2000 member limitation in the API This is on nodes per way, not members per relation. There are 164 larger relations. Even if there is no hard limit, I'd consider a 2k member relation past the limit of what is

Re: [Tagging] New proposal: Obligatory tagging of oneway on motorway_link

2015-09-13 Thread Paul Norman
On 9/10/2015 5:20 AM, Joachim wrote: Define on the wiki page of highway=motorway_link that oneway=* must also be tagged for every motorway_link. If not tagged, the oneway=* status of this way is undefined. Explicitly tagging oneway on links is preferable for obvious reasons, but you need to

Re: [Tagging] Shop vs amenity

2015-08-27 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/27/2015 2:29 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: not at all, this might be the case in some areas (that I am not aware of) and edge cases, but the typical supermarket is 1 storey, in huge cases 2 (and then one level is typically electronics, or gardening and other non-food articles and tends

Re: [Tagging] waterway=derelict_canal

2015-08-25 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/24/2015 3:35 PM, Andy Townsend wrote: That's not so bad in lua, but imagine writing ... and not disused=yes into every cartocss rule! Fortunately, we will not have to do that in OpenStreetMap Carto, as we will not be supporting the style of tagging where one tag says what something is,

Re: [Tagging] Rural Alley?

2015-07-08 Thread Paul Norman
On 7/8/2015 2:44 AM, Andrew Errington wrote: They're not really tracks, as they are proper roads, with a concrete or tarmac surface, But, they don't really go anywhere. Tracks can be paved - tracktype=grade1 normally is paved, or is built to equivalent quality.

Re: [Tagging] Rural Alley?

2015-07-08 Thread Paul Norman
On 7/8/2015 1:25 AM, johnw wrote: [trimmed] The issue is that these “small windy roads that go everywhere” go nowhere. the land they access is for farming the subdivided sections ... lead you on a tour of the local rice plots and hills. it is basically access for the farmers, which then have

Re: [Tagging] waterway=stream oneway=1

2015-07-04 Thread Paul Norman
On 7/4/2015 12:57 PM, Mike Thompson wrote: Is it really necessary for a way that is tagged waterway=stream to also be tagged oneway=1? Isn't this implied? oneway indicates that traffic is restricted from traveling the other direction. I suppose this might happen in a busy canal system, but on

Re: [Tagging] Draft tag for Airport Security Zones | Non-voting procedure

2015-06-16 Thread Paul Norman
On 6/15/2015 10:01 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Are these functions still handled in (mappable) part of the building? Entry into the different zones is at fixed points Are the restrooms and charging stations assignable to a zone that is constant? No. In practice, this isn't typically an issue

Re: [Tagging] Draft tag for Airport Security Zones | Non-voting procedure

2015-06-15 Thread Paul Norman
On 6/15/2015 5:42 AM, johnw wrote: The only way I could be wrong is if they have a “Schengen” terminal or something like it : special*facilities* at the airport*separate* from the normal domestic and international style terminals. Not a separate Schengen line at immigration, or a security

[Tagging] Locating the voting page for a tag

2011-03-13 Thread Paul Norman
While looking into some issues around a bad import, I ran across http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenSeaMap/Lights_Data_Model but was unable to find a page with voting or discussion. Although the tag voting process has many flaws, this doesn't say it was added because it is what was commonly

Re: [Tagging] Locating the voting page for a tag

2011-03-13 Thread Paul Norman
People are adding these tags to OSM, presumably based on the wiki page. They're on the osm.org wiki, how do they not apply to the osm database? Also, I'm not sure what you mean by the OpenStreetMap renderer. There are dozens of renderers that work from OpenStreetMap data, of which OpenSeaMap is

Re: [Tagging] Counterflow Lanes

2011-02-19 Thread Paul Norman
The Massey Tunnel is currently tagged with oneway=no on the reversible section and through the tunnel itself. For the reversible sections (that lead up to the tunnel) they really alternate between oneway=-1, oneway=yes and access=no. For the two parallel tunnels themselves they alternate between

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - sluice_gate

2011-01-17 Thread Paul Norman
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: The question is, what else would go there? Flood gates don't belong there - that's the *usage* of the gate, not the *type* of gate. From a technical perspective you may be right, but practically speaking, we should design

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - sluice_gate

2011-01-16 Thread Paul Norman
Based on feedback, I've modified http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/sluice_gate -Original Message- From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:tagging- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Paul Norman Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 7:36 PM To: 'Tag

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - sluice_gate

2011-01-08 Thread Paul Norman
From: Steve Bennett On 5/01/2011 3:18 PM, John Smith wrote: Perhaps a more generic approach would work, eg waterway=flow_control flow_control=weir|sluice_gate|flood_gate|spillway_gate| Yeah something like that would be reasonable. What I'd like to see a lot more of is planning

Re: [Tagging] Aqueducts?

2011-01-06 Thread Paul Norman
On 7/01/2011 9:19 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: What do you think about waterway=aqueduct ? Around here there are quite some historical aqueducts (e.g. [1]). Most are ruins, but they are still impressive. I tag them waterway=aqueduct, ruin=yes Some are bridge-like (arches), but others

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - sluice_gate

2011-01-03 Thread Paul Norman
-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:tagging- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Ulf Lamping Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 2:04 AM To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - sluice_gate Am 03.01.2011 02:59, schrieb Paul Norman: I've set up a proposal

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - sluice_gate

2011-01-03 Thread Paul Norman
03.01.2011 02:59, schrieb Paul Norman: I've set up a proposal for sluice_gates, which are typically found on small waterways in agricultural areas at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/sluice_gate ___ Tagging mailing list

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - sluice_gate

2011-01-02 Thread Paul Norman
I've set up a proposal for sluice_gates, which are typically found on small waterways in agricultural areas at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/sluice_gate ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Carpool

2010-11-12 Thread Paul Norman
-Original Message- From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:tagging- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Rodolphe Quiedeville Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 12:06 AM Hi, I propose a to add parking=carpool for carpooling. I'm not english so please be kind with my

[Tagging] Proposing additions to features

2010-11-01 Thread Paul Norman
I'm wanting to propose a number of additions to the highway=street_lamp feature, but I'm unclear on the process. The wiki only covers new tags, but the changes I would propose would add a significant amount of information that could be inputted. ___

[Tagging] How to tag landscaping

2010-11-01 Thread Paul Norman
Bring me a shrubbery! While doing some small-scale mapping, I came across an area of landscaping roughly outlined in http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Landscaping.png Landscaping typically has small trees, shrubs, flowers, and other decorative plants. Being artificial, the natural=scrub