Hi!
thanks for the comments so far. I think I have to clarify something at this
point, as I have the feeling that the discussion is going in the wrong
direction or that the proposal is being misunderstood (I may not have been able
to express it precisely enough, soory if so).
The aim of this proposal is to establish a new tag for a type of „shops“ that
are way less professional as the „normal“ shops.
I agree absolutely that somone who makes bread by itself and sells that in
front of its house, we should tag it by shop=bakery. So the grade of
„selfmadeness“ does not matter.
Thanks also for the ideas around the tag shop=farm. But I think, what I mean is
more specific. If I would use shop=farm I would expect a proper store with
counter and staff. I think the idea of improving it by using openeing_hours="by
appointment" is a good objection. Problem here: How can the goods be further
specified? How can it be stated that horse manure can (also) be bought in this
shop=farm? Or game (regardless of whether it was created through breeding or
was shot by the hunter)? I think these products are not that typical for a shop
= farm. Or the other way around: By using shop=farm you cannot find any places
(e.g. via overpass) where horse manure can be bought.
I hope at this Point it is clear what is meant by the proposal. (Maybe the name
„direct_marketing“ is confusing – feel free to make suggestions)
Another idea I like is to use craft=* in combination with direct_marketing=*.
Inquiry here: which values you want to use? Something like „game“ and
„horse_dung“ (separated by semikolon) or just „yes“? And of course the
challenge here is to find a „craft“-value for all issues.
Thanks
Von: Niels Elgaard Larsen<mailto:elga...@agol.dk>
Gesendet: Freitag, 2. Oktober 2020 13:44
An: tagging@openstreetmap.org<mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>
Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)
Wieland Kestler:
> Hi everyone!
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> Due to the discussion in the german OSM-Telegram-group I made a proposal for
> tagging
> points where people can buy e.g. game (meat) directly from the forester.
What does "directly" mean?
That forester probably did not shoot the animal himself. He most likely is not
allowed to butcher it. And it might not actually be him selling the meat when
you
pick it up.
shop=farm might be a stretch for game, although I do know a place selling deer
meat
that have all the deers inside a big fence.
shop=farm is already used for eggs and honey.
I would also assume that horse dung being sold usually does not come from wild
horses.
As for shop=farm not being permanently available, we have the "opening_hours"
and
"seasonal" tags. We can also use shop=farm,openeing_hours="by appointment" if
there
is not a shop infrastructure.
>
>
> For more details see the proposal page:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/shop%3Ddirect_marketing
>
> For comments use the discussion page:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/shop%3Ddirect_marketing
>
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> Tanks!
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> Wieland
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