Re: [Tagging] AE and BE orthography in tagging

2015-04-27 Thread fly
]. There is even a proposal [4]. Cheers fly [1] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2010-July/002892.html [2] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2010-July/002895.html [3] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2014-July/018328.html [4] https

Re: [Tagging] fire extinguisher class

2015-04-26 Thread fly
Am 23.04.2015 um 19:43 schrieb Craig Wallace: fire_extinguisher:class:uk=8A 55B 75F In general and also valid here: Please, add the LC to to value and not to the key. This way we only need one tag and not one for every country. fire_extinguisher:class=UK:8A;UK:55B;UK:75F Thanks fly

Re: [Tagging] addr:interpolation on highway

2015-04-23 Thread fly
for the whole street as you need to split them as soon as one housenumber is missing or as soon as you have additional numbers like alphabetical ones or 114/2. fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo

Re: [Tagging] addr:interpolation on highway

2015-04-21 Thread fly
Are there addresses on both side of the street ? Think it is wrong tagging as addr:interpolation=* should be on separate way(s) on one or both side(s) of the street and the first plus the last node get the addr:housenumber=*. cu fly Am 21.04.2015 um 19:25 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt: JOSM's

Re: [Tagging] Outdoor DSLAM

2015-04-20 Thread fly
? communication:outdoor_dslam=* ? cu fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Highway barrier

2015-04-14 Thread fly
if a bollard is removable, similar would by useful for any spikes. cu fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Way inside riverbank

2015-04-14 Thread fly
should not import the data unless you produce the information in some way (either through manual mapping, computing the missing data or getting it from other sources). Otherwise the data becomes dead mass in the OSM database. +1 Thanks for the wording. Cheers fly

Re: [Tagging] Defacto: man_made=storage_tank

2015-04-14 Thread fly
storage_tank might be a building. cu fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] RFC - obligatory usage - bicycle=obligatory

2015-04-14 Thread fly
Am 14.04.2015 um 09:08 schrieb Volker Schmidt: How would you tag: Here are my reformulated answers. Note that the answers do not apply to all countries, and most certainly not to the US, where to my knowledge there are no distinctions between bicycle and pedestrian use of sidewalks and

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - trailhead

2015-04-14 Thread fly
Am 14.04.2015 um 23:35 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt: On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 12:40 PM, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com wrote: Why not map the amenity/features as own objects ? If it is important for the route relations I rather have a new role similar to guidepost for the starting/end node. I

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - trailhead

2015-04-14 Thread fly
talking about named trailheads? Why not map the amenity/features as own objects ? If it is important for the route relations I rather have a new role similar to guidepost for the starting/end node. cu fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Paintball

2015-04-14 Thread fly
. May be, even by contacting the previous author. Otherwise we quickly end up with a mechanical edit. Could you please add some information about leisure=pitch and leisure=sports_centre on the paintball page. shooting and archery should me present as link as well. Cheers fly

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Reception Desk

2015-04-08 Thread fly
Am 08.04.2015 um 01:07 schrieb Warin: -fly Time? There are many proposals that are sitting around .. waiting on this 'time' thing.. years ... Why? The ones I have looked at are not changing .. nothing is happening with them - thus there looks

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-08 Thread fly
, instead of using access tags. How about opening_hours ? Know many side entrances (entrance=yes) with different opening_hours. Which maps shows this ? Cheers fly [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Aentrance%3Dstaircase ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-08 Thread fly
Am 06.04.2015 um 23:45 schrieb Ilpo Järvinen: On Mon, 6 Apr 2015, fly wrote: Even entrance=staircase seems to be problematic as it overlaps with entrance=main and entrance=service. No it doesn't. The entrance is either entrance=staircase or entrance=service so I see entrance=staircase

Re: [Tagging] Which entities use area=yes

2015-04-07 Thread fly
and area and could get rid of area=yes. cu fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Which entities use area=yes

2015-04-07 Thread fly
. As far as I can judge a clean separation would be the best: for highway and aeroway representing the area as area:highway=* respectively area:aeroway=* and only tag ways with highway and aeroway. Cheers fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Reception Desk

2015-04-05 Thread fly
Nice that you follow the new, unwritten rules. Sorry, but I usually only vote by using the tag and not on the wiki, still I would say, give it more time and improve the documentation as we will need it anyway (both the tag and its docu). Cheers fly Am 01.04.2015 um 03:02 schrieb Warin: Hi

Re: [Tagging] [OT] Licensing of information from websites

2015-03-31 Thread fly
is most of the time not usable due to license problems. cu fly I'm pushing this offtopic and this discussion should probably go to legal-talk (I've set reply-to there), but that paragraph does not match my understanding of copyright law (IANAL, etc.). My understanding is that a piece

Re: [Tagging] recommend tagging of volcanos as ways rather than nodes

2015-03-30 Thread fly
for fuzzy areas. Talk a look at e.g Hawaii and please tell me where the volcanoes start. Somewhere below sea level ? So far volcano should be mapped as node and everything else like crater need an own tag. cu fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Micro- and macromapping with area=*

2015-03-30 Thread fly
and how about landcover=* ? We have some problematic tags beyond highway=* like barrier=*wall where we might still need area=* but this should be only a handful of tags. Cheers fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [Tagging] Tagging method of amenities at camp_sites

2015-03-30 Thread fly
Am 30.03.2015 um 23:35 schrieb John F. Eldredge: It's about time that renderers started supporting semicolon-delimited lists. Splitting apart a delimited string is a trivial programming task. I know, having worked as a programmer for the last 29 years. +1 cu fly

Re: [Tagging] Tagging method of amenities at camp_sites

2015-03-30 Thread fly
address, prizes and all the amenities is most of the time not usable due to license problems. cu fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] RFC - obligatory usage - bicycle=obligatory

2015-03-28 Thread fly
*=designated with the blue signs otherwise only *=yes together with (motor_)vehicle=no. Just had to point two other mappers to the wiki[1] the last week after changing lots of highway=path bicycle=designated foot=designated to highway=cycleway Cheers fly [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki

Re: [Tagging] Historic tower

2015-03-24 Thread fly
tags. Why not invent some more tags for constructions like buildings=* if useful. cu fly Am 23.03.2015 um 23:15 schrieb Warin: start_date ? start of planning?, construction? occupation? completion of planning? construction? occupation? built_data ... is fairly simple. I like simple

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move smoking tag to active status

2015-03-23 Thread fly
cu fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

2015-03-23 Thread fly
=* with only little more than 400 appearances according to taginfo [3] really deserve an own wiki page [4] ? Cheers fly [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Fuel_types [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dfuel#Names [3] https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=tenant

Re: [Tagging] Accepted or rejected?

2015-03-23 Thread fly
in mind the amount of traffic between plain text and html. We did not talk about security issues and scripts, yet. Cheers fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Deleting private objects in private spaces

2015-03-23 Thread fly
Am 22.03.2015 um 23:11 schrieb Warin: On 23/03/2015 1:20 AM, fly wrote: Am 17.03.2015 um 07:26 schrieb John Willis: There was a big bruhaha about any mappers mapping Israeli military installations. They were deleting everything and leaving notes not to map things on that location, if I

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

2015-03-23 Thread fly
to find some proper words. cu fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Propsal - RFC - Generalized Overhead Wire Mapping - utility_wires=overhead/underground

2015-03-22 Thread fly
as an intermediate state before micro-mapping. Thus once the utility is mapped as own object the tag on the street should not be used anymore. Please, avoid duplications in the data. cu fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move smoking tag to active status

2015-03-22 Thread fly
Am 21.03.2015 um 18:43 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: Am 21.03.2015 um 08:54 schrieb Michael Reichert naka...@gmx.net: I agree. Because it is used on 47541 objects at OSM all over the world, it's best to move the page to Key:smoking. +1 +1 but please copy and archive the proposal fly

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

2015-03-22 Thread fly
Am 19.03.2015 um 17:43 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: 2015-03-19 17:12 GMT+01:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com: brand=none or no_brand=yes to proper mark the independence. some independent petrol stations are organized in associations and use these as their brand, see e.g. here: http

Re: [Tagging] Deleting private objects in private spaces

2015-03-22 Thread fly
Am 17.03.2015 um 07:26 schrieb John Willis: On Mar 17, 2015, at 3:17 PM, Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com wrote: AKA military installations in certain countries I would happily map military installation in Russia/North Korea/Iran/USA/whatever - it is not illegal for me. Maybe they can

Re: [Tagging] Historic tower

2015-03-22 Thread fly
/three centuries ? cu fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Different definition of role forward/backward

2015-03-19 Thread fly
No one out there interested in this ? Any comments, please. cu Am 14.03.2015 um 18:47 schrieb fly: For years the definitions about role forward/backward are completely different on the wiki page about route=road [1] versus the page about route relations (type=route) [2]. While all other

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

2015-03-19 Thread fly
, so we always have to distinguish between small and big suppliers. operator=independent is similar to highway=living_street an easter egg. The operator is still some judicial person and we need brand=none or no_brand=yes to proper mark the independence. cu fly Am 19.03.2015 um 15:25 schrieb Jan

Re: [Tagging] Increasing voting participation (Was Accepted or rejected?)

2015-03-18 Thread fly
pages than translating proposals in multiple languages. One thing for creators of proposals which are not voted on and everybody else would be to make the transfer to an official wiki page once the tag is in major use. Then translation can start. cu fly

Re: [Tagging] Increasing voting participation (Was Accepted or rejected?)

2015-03-18 Thread fly
introduced the tag. Seems to be really complex. Cheers fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] Different definition of role forward/backward

2015-03-14 Thread fly
and software. Can we change/adjust route=road to follow the same definition as all other routes ? Cheers fly [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:route=road [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:route#Members ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Blatant tagging for the renderer: bridges abandoned railways

2015-03-09 Thread fly
to the area to get it rendered. cu fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] route=foot

2015-03-08 Thread fly
to be added to the wiki as the is non for route=foot ATM and we need to evaluate the use-cases in advance. cu fly Am 04.03.2015 um 04:48 schrieb Steve Bennett: Huh. And here in Australia (well, at least amongst the people I know) the difference between a hike and any other form of walking

Re: [Tagging] route=foot

2015-03-01 Thread fly
Am 01.03.2015 um 22:04 schrieb SomeoneElse: On 01/03/2015 20:17, fly wrote: Wait a minute, out of the 25,000 over 21,000 have a network=* which leads me to the assumption that most should be tagged route=hiking. What makes you think that? Come on, just have a look at the numbers [1

Re: [Tagging] route=foot

2015-03-01 Thread fly
Am 01.03.2015 um 23:11 schrieb SomeoneElse: On 01/03/2015 21:48, fly wrote: Am 01.03.2015 um 22:04 schrieb SomeoneElse: On 01/03/2015 20:17, fly wrote: Wait a minute, out of the 25,000 over 21,000 have a network=* which leads me to the assumption that most should be tagged route=hiking. What

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - parking=storage: additional values for key parking

2015-03-01 Thread fly
for shop=bags;suite-case;cartoon-box. cu fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] route=foot

2015-03-01 Thread fly
Am 01.03.2015 um 19:47 schrieb SomeoneElse: On 01/03/2015 17:43, fly wrote: Is route=foot really the tag we want to use for walking routes and city tours ? There are 25,000 of the things out there - it's not exactly some niche tagging: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/route=foot

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

2015-02-27 Thread fly
Am 27.02.2015 um 16:56 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: 2015-02-27 16:36 GMT+01:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com: I think the easiest way to represent several upper and lower is to model several stairs, one for each upper+lower combo. This can happen for example when there are blocks

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

2015-02-27 Thread fly
Am 27.02.2015 um 12:09 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: 2015-02-27 9:07 GMT+01:00 johnw jo...@mac.com: I read the wiki entry on steps ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dsteps http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway=steps) and the discussion page, and besides the

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

2015-02-27 Thread fly
Am 27.02.2015 um 16:16 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: 2015-02-27 14:24 GMT+01:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com: Though, I am not sure how to model steps with fading steps to one or both sides and several upper or lower I am not sure if I understand fading steps correctly. Usually I'd say

Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

2015-02-27 Thread fly
:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com: Well, emergency=bay might interfere with access tagging and we should probably use left/right as you will find them not only on dual carriage roads. emergency_bay=both/left/right ? That seems reasonable to me. How do we tag emergency lanes ? I

Re: [Tagging] Super-keys are evil

2015-02-25 Thread fly
Though, I have to admit that introducing new categories nor moving tags from one to another is not easy and often bricks, like osm-carto will not support it for quite some time, are through between your legs. Still in favour of introducing some more categories. cu fly Am 24.02.2015 um 20:02

Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

2015-02-25 Thread fly
as additional tag on the way with highway=*? Using lanes:-Tagging ? I use lanes:-Tagging for bus_bays by the way. cu fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

2015-02-25 Thread fly
Am 25.02.2015 um 16:41 schrieb Martin Vonwald: 2015-02-25 16:34 GMT+01:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com: So what do you have in mind ? Tagging them as additional tag on the way with highway=*? Using lanes:-Tagging ? I don't think of them as lanes, so I wouldn't use some :lanes-tag. I

Re: [Tagging] tag for portages?

2015-02-23 Thread fly
additional features, like some wooden construction to drag the canoe along. Often it works on the grass, too, but we do not have grass everywhere. Cheers fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] tag for portages?

2015-02-22 Thread fly
remain on the highway ? Cheers fly Am 22.02.2015 um 15:25 schrieb Brad Neuhauser: Thanks for the feedback! portage=* was my initial instinct, but I was starting to second guess after finding the other tags. Cheers, Brad On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com

[Tagging] restricted *way=* with additional access

2015-02-20 Thread fly
allow taxi and delivery some time a day/week highway=pedestrian bicycle:conditional= yes @ (Mo-Sa 00:00-06:00,21:00-24:00, Su,PH) taxi=yes vehicle= delivery @ (Mo-Sa 05:00-16:00; PH off) Which routing software is actually using all these tags ? cu fly

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating aerialway=goods

2015-02-18 Thread fly
Am 18.02.2015 um 14:36 schrieb Richard Z.: suggest deprecating this particular value of aerialway as there are much better ways to map industrial/freight lines with usage=* and foot=* type restrictions. The new description is already in:

Re: [Tagging] high mobile masts on man_made=mast

2015-02-17 Thread fly
Am 17.02.2015 um 01:07 schrieb Warin: On 16/02/2015 11:33 PM, fly wrote: Be careful some mast as support for wind generators might be entered. Thought antenna vs mast might be a problem but not mast vs tower. Should have added some picture. Please have a look at the pictures on [1] and [2

Re: [Tagging] RFC aerialway=zip line

2015-02-17 Thread fly
in use and there seem to be some differences between a playground feature and aerialways. Otherwise you need to deprecate playground=zipwire. cu fly [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:playground [2] https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/playground=zipwire

Re: [Tagging] Change of rendering: place of worship and, terminal without building tag

2015-02-17 Thread fly
understand there can be only one landuse but neither the proposal nor the wiki page really faces the problem especially regarding deprecating other landuse like cemetery without offering a replacement. cu fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Change of rendering: place of worship and, terminal without building tag

2015-02-17 Thread fly
yards. the tag is about land_use_, not land_ownership_ AFAIK we do not want to tag ownership in OSM. and religious is no land use, exactly. fly wrote on 2015-02-17 22:14: I still do not understand, why we can not use religion=* without any landuse. on which area description? I have

Re: [Tagging] high mobile masts on man_made=mast

2015-02-16 Thread fly
difference is that a Mast cannot be entered, while a Turm is intended to be entered by humans. Be careful some mast as support for wind generators might be entered. Thought antenna vs mast might be a problem but not mast vs tower. Cheers fly ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] high mobile masts on man_made=mast

2015-02-16 Thread fly
Am 16.02.2015 um 13:33 schrieb fly: Am 16.02.2015 um 11:32 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: 2015-02-16 4:25 GMT+01:00 Dave Swarthout daveswarth...@gmail.com: On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 4:23 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: I've been taught that a mast is usually not self

Re: [Tagging] building=yes on nodes?

2015-02-16 Thread fly
the area type to offer proper presets. cu fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Change of rendering: place of worship and, terminal without building tag

2015-02-16 Thread fly
, yet. cu fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Bus route relations. Forward/backward tag

2015-02-16 Thread fly
easier to get the direction of the route with incomplete data. cu fly Am 16.02.2015 um 08:40 schrieb Jo: On the one hand I'm not adding roles to the ways in PT routes relations anymore, instead I add all the ways in the correct order. Some ways are included twice. But if you prefer to add them

Re: [Tagging] route=running

2015-02-14 Thread fly
is a higher category and we might difference between hiking and walking. Cheers fly [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:route ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Waste_collection - a new Feature Proposal - RFC

2015-02-14 Thread fly
Am 14.02.2015 um 02:41 schrieb Dave Swarthout: I think amenity=waste_disposal with sub tags for the type of waste being disposed of could be a workable solution. It's more complicated than using another top level tag like dump_station, etc., for sewage but allows for more specificity when

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - traffic_signals (Lukas Schaus)

2015-02-10 Thread fly
operating. Guess people might already use opening_hours but I rather prefer operating_time. Am 10.02.2015 um 14:33 schrieb Lukas Schaus: fly lowflight66 at googlemail.com, Mon Feb 9 15:47:00 UTC 2015 You did not comment on my question about micromapping a junction and adding a highway=traffic_signal

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - traffic_signals (Lukas Schaus)

2015-02-09 Thread fly
together with your proposal. Altogether, I am not sure if this relation is needed at all but for sure not at the current base. Still would prefer simple tags on the nodes if possible. cu fly [1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/48.10739/7.85080 [2] https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18

Re: [Tagging] Tram tracks running in a road

2015-02-09 Thread fly
Am 08.02.2015 um 19:45 schrieb Janko Mihelić: 2015-02-08 17:48 GMT+01:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com: Am 07.02.2015 um 11:19 schrieb Martin Vonwald: 2015-02-07 0:31 GMT+01:00 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com: 2015-02-06 17:29 GMT+01:00 Luca Sigfrido Percich luca.perc...@gmail.com: We could

Re: [Tagging] Tram tracks running in a road

2015-02-08 Thread fly
of such tags and I try to update the style. (Please contact me directly via martin (the usual) vonwald (dot.) info for this) +1 Cheers fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Access restrictions for shoulder lanes?

2015-02-06 Thread fly
clear. Why is bicycle=yes and motorroad=no not enough ? Please no separate ways, as you loose the information that you are using a motorway and might looking forward to find a nice bicycle path. cu fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - temperature

2015-02-04 Thread fly
source:temperature=estimated 4) How do we tag a shower with cold and hot water ? temperature=4 C;80 C ? Does this depend on the hose, e.g. one separate for each temperature or a mix-batterie ? cu fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [Tagging] Access restrictions for shoulder lanes?

2015-02-03 Thread fly
understanding emergency need infos like width, max physical height and about sharp turns. All barriers should be tag separately and tags like access and oneway on the ways are just some more information but not the most important ones. cu fly

[Tagging] roof:shape with several connected buildings

2015-02-03 Thread fly
. Thanks fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Electronic or 'e' cigarettes?

2015-02-03 Thread fly
Am 02.02.2015 um 23:28 schrieb Andy Mabbett: On 22 January 2015 at 18:00, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com wrote: Anyway, I do not know a single shop in my area which only sells them so shop=* will never fit. Never? I'm reminded of the maxim that the singular of data is not anecdote

Re: [Tagging] Access restrictions for shoulder lanes?

2015-02-03 Thread fly
=no|no|no|no|no|designated turn:lanes=|||slight_right| only problem are once again lanes*=* Would could handle boulder lanes like bicycle lanes and not counting them would lead to lanes=3 my 2 ct fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [Tagging] roof:shape with several connected buildings

2015-02-03 Thread fly
Am 03.02.2015 um 17:37 schrieb fly: Hey Can someone give me a hint how to tag two buildings which have a wall in common and share one roof, e.g. roof:shape=hipped for both together. Do we have a tag for only on one side hipped ? I have this problem with several buildings but usually one

Re: [Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

2015-01-29 Thread fly
a gas station. Or does that already exist? Have a look at fuel=* [1]. Nice, we already have the value in key variant and a key=value variant with possibility to use semi-colon. At least, we should consider the same tags for the same substances/fuels. How about substance=wood_pallets. cu fly [1

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Quay

2015-01-28 Thread fly
will always have a discussion about natural=* I guess. Cheers fly [1] https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=quay#values ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] length=

2015-01-27 Thread fly
splitting and combining ways ? For bridges and tunnels this info belongs to the area or the relation but not to an unclosed linear way. About aeroways we already have an own thread as we have more problems with them. cu fly ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Wiki Edit War on using/avoiding semicolon lists

2015-01-27 Thread fly
needs some break/holiday and has to prove that he his willing to accept a community. I did not read any apology so far, which would be a first step. Altogether we can use our time/power for better stuff than this exhausting discussion which is leading nowhere cu fly

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - addrN:*

2015-01-22 Thread fly
always belongs to the plot and not to the building and they are assigned in advance. cu fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Wiki Edit War on using/avoiding semicolon lists

2015-01-22 Thread fly
easier for new mappers or preset creators. Presets are a problem [1],[2] and it is not easy to present tag list with more than 50 tags per object. Cheers fly [1] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/6268 [2] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/8993

Re: [Tagging] Electronic or 'e' cigarettes?

2015-01-22 Thread fly
Am 22.01.2015 um 19:43 schrieb Matthijs Melissen: On 22 January 2015 at 18:00, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com wrote: Well the first page should be under proposal and it should not be listed under shop or if only under some proposal paragraph Only six shop types have been approved by the wiki

Re: [Tagging] Wiki Edit War on using/avoiding semicolon lists

2015-01-22 Thread fly
so key1, key2 would even be better. fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] sidewalk=* or footway=*

2015-01-20 Thread fly
Sorry, was talking about the RFC discussion on this list [6] but your link or better gmane.org [7] as threads are better listed is the starting point. The discussion at the same time about sidewalk as separate ways might be also interesting. cu fly [6] http://thread.gmane.org

Re: [Tagging] sidewalk=* or footway=*

2015-01-19 Thread fly
Please have a look into the archive of this list and the discussion of the sidewalk proposal. It was designed to replace footway=both/left/right/none but transition is slow. JOSM just introduced a validator warning offering an automatic change. Speaking for myself, I did not care to change a

Re: [Tagging] Overhead signs (Überkopfwegweiser)

2015-01-18 Thread fly
=*, support=* or ele=*. Do we have traffic_sign=destination_sign or highway=destination_sign or similar tag as main tag for the node. Is gauntry that important, that we need an own main tag dor it or would it better fit as subtag ? Eventually even support=* alone will work. cu fly

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Traffic Signals)

2015-01-18 Thread fly
. Together with the :lanes tagging you do not need any relation at all but could simply add the information on the node with :lanes tagging cu fly Am 18.01.2015 um 14:14 schrieb Tom Pfeifer: Sorry but I'm sceptical about the scheme. It adds very little value compared to its own complexity

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - addrN:*

2015-01-18 Thread fly
Am 17.01.2015 um 23:11 schrieb Friedrich Volkmann: On 16.01.2015 05:48, Ineiev wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:53:13PM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: you could use polygons (e.g. 2 distinct multipolygons, one for each address), and add a note to inform your fellow mapping colleagues that

Re: [Tagging] Tag destination vs. relation destination_sign

2015-01-16 Thread fly
Am 16.01.2015 um 09:31 schrieb Martin Vonwald: 2015-01-15 22:12 GMT+01:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com mailto:lowfligh...@googlemail.com: Please, do not forget to mention direction:lanes*. destination:lanes ;-) Thanks, yes. Was tagging directions and writing about

Re: [Tagging] Tag destination vs. relation destination_sign

2015-01-15 Thread fly
Actually the signs alone make it difficult, we need good pictures with the road and signs. Often it is tagged on highway=*_link but for sure there are other cases. Please, do not forget to mention direction:lanes*. cu fly Am 15.01.2015 um 19:48 schrieb Lukas Sommer: To clarify the wiki

Re: [Tagging] bicycle:lanes=designated|... vs cycleway:lanes=lane|...

2015-01-14 Thread fly
, marking the original ones as outdated would be really appreciated. Thanks fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Water tap

2015-01-13 Thread fly
already had similar problems with amenity=drinking_water + drinking_water=no. E.g. we need some rework of the whole issue and at least two tags where one could describe the method/structure to gain the water (well,tap ..). Cheers fly ___ Tagging mailing

Re: [Tagging] barrier=net ?

2015-01-13 Thread fly
standing where the second one is tied up. Wonder how a net could fit under fence in foreign languages or if it is much easier to have an own main value for it. cu fly Am 07.01.2015 um 05:50 schrieb Andrew Harvey: I've also used it to tag nets in the water used to provide swimming areas safe

Re: [Tagging] correct access tagging for tourist attraction

2015-01-02 Thread fly
=destination has some legal aspect. The other roads would be access=private. Still be careful with access=* as it might depend on your traffic mode and foot/bicycle/horse/ski might have different rules. cu fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Shared foot- and cycletracks

2015-01-02 Thread fly
in Germany cu fly 2014-12-28 18:35 GMT+01:00 Ulrich Lamm ulamm.b...@t-online.de mailto:ulamm.b...@t-online.de: Hi mapping and cycling friends, I have suggested a special highway-class for the slim tagging of this very common kind of cycling facilities that up to now affords

Re: [Tagging] key:support, man_made=surveillance

2015-01-02 Thread fly
to support. Have a look at the page for the key direction [3]. cu fly [3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:direction Am 27.12.2014 um 23:56 schrieb François Lacombe: I suggest to focus on what is actually approved. Like location=*, usage=* or substation=*, main proposal features like

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