[Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - Place of mourning (replacing "Chapel of rest")

2020-11-11 Thread wolle68

Dear all,

As already discussed, "place of mourning" seems to be a less bad label 
than "chapel of rest".


Therefore please comment on the following new proposal:

Place of mourning: a room or building where families and friends can 
come and view someone who has died, before their funeral


Proposal page: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Place_of_mourning
Discussion page: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Place_of_mourning


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Re: [Tagging] religous bias - Feature Proposal - Voting - (Chapel of rest)

2020-11-09 Thread wolle68
OK, so I haven't really done all the counting, but my impression is that 
amenity=place_of_mourning has quite some fans while most of the others 
are at least able to swallow it.


Unless anyone explains me that I got that wrong, I think I'll move the 
proposal there then.


Am 05.11.2020 09:43 schrieb woll...@posteo.de:

Thanks for all the interventions.

To avoid that the discussion becomes inconclusive again, could
everybody rate the following "favourable", "acceptable" or
"unfavourable"?

amenity=mourning
amenity=place_of_mourning
amenity=mourning_room
amenity=viewing_arrangements
amenity=deceased_viewing

Am 04.11.2020 11:17 schrieb woll...@posteo.de:

Dear all,

As there have been no more comments for some time on this proposal,
I've set it to voting. Please have a look and vote:

Chapel of rest: a room or building where families and friends can come
and view someone who has died before their funeral

Proposal page:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Chapel_of_rest

Discussion page:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Chapel_of_rest

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Re: [Tagging] religous bias - Feature Proposal - Voting - (Chapel of rest)

2020-11-05 Thread wolle68

Thanks for all the interventions.

To avoid that the discussion becomes inconclusive again, could everybody 
rate the following "favourable", "acceptable" or "unfavourable"?


amenity=mourning
amenity=place_of_mourning
amenity=mourning_room
amenity=viewing_arrangements
amenity=deceased_viewing

Am 04.11.2020 11:17 schrieb woll...@posteo.de:

Dear all,

As there have been no more comments for some time on this proposal,
I've set it to voting. Please have a look and vote:

Chapel of rest: a room or building where families and friends can come
and view someone who has died before their funeral

Proposal page:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Chapel_of_rest

Discussion page:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Chapel_of_rest

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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Chapel of rest)

2020-11-04 Thread wolle68

Dear all,

As there have been no more comments for some time on this proposal, I've 
set it to voting. Please have a look and vote:


Chapel of rest: a room or building where families and friends can come 
and view someone who has died before their funeral


Proposal page: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Chapel_of_rest


Discussion page: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Chapel_of_rest


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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting suspended - (funeral hall=*)

2020-10-03 Thread wolle68
I have suspended the voting, because there - finally - is a real 
discussion.


Am 02.10.2020 18:38 schrieb woll...@posteo.de:

Dear list,

Please vote on the following proposal:

A building or room for funeral ceremonies ancillary to a funeral
directors shop or a crematorium (subtag)

Proposal page:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/funeral_hall%3D*
Discussion page:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/funeral_hall%3D*

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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (funeral hall=*)

2020-10-02 Thread wolle68

Dear list,

Please vote on the following proposal:

A building or room for funeral ceremonies ancillary to a funeral 
directors shop or a crematorium (subtag)


Proposal page: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/funeral_hall%3D*
Discussion page: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/funeral_hall%3D*


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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Chapel of rest)

2020-09-27 Thread wolle68

"In any case, the proposer seems to feel that chapel of rest
should be used only for dedicated buildings and a different
tag should be added to indicate a funeral director's with a
viewing room."
The proposer feels that a subtag should be used for a funeral director's 
with a viewing room. But the proposer's preference goes to using the 
same term for the amenity tag and for the subtag (examples given in the 
proposal).


At the same time, may I ask for comments on "funeral viewing rooms"? 
Apart from its length, it only seems to have advantages.


Am 27.09.2020 13:55 schrieb Paul Allen:

On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 at 10:02, Michael Patrick 
wrote:


From: Paul Allen 



Problem 1. "Viewing Service" is the name of a process, not the

name

of the building or room it takes place in. "Turn left after

the Viewing

Service" > makes no sense, any more than "Turn right after the

prayer" as an alternative to "Turn right after the church."


Mmmm  I agree, that's my point. 'Chapel of Rest' isn't a place,
at best it

sometimes might be a dedicated room in a funeral establishment.
Apparently,
it is not infrequently the showroom for caskets if a larger
attendance needs to
be accommodated.


It may be as you state it in some cases.  It is not true of all.
Here's
 one where the chapel of rest is a building solely for that purpose:
https://www.colinphillipsfunerals.com/our-services/private-chapel/ [6]
That does not serve any other purpose.  It is not his offices or
showroom.  I know of another one like that a few miles from it.

Also, a chapel, even in the religious sense, is not necessarily a
 separate building.  It originally referred to a small room within
a church with its own altar, or a room with an alta in a
non-religious building.

In any case, the proposer seems to feel that chapel of rest
should be used only for dedicated buildings and a different
tag should be added to indicate a funeral director's with a
viewing room.


Problem 2. "Viewing service" implies some sort of formalized

event,

probably religious with a speaker delivering a eulogy. A

Chapel of

Rest is for looking at a dead body, with no formal ceremony.

Possibly

in complete silence. Possible with only one live person in the

room.

Contrast this with a religious service, which has prayers,

hymns,

a sermon, bouts of kneeling, etc.


Connotation of 'service' as in 'floral service', embalming service',
'cremation service' or otherwise business task / activity like
'automotive repair service', rather than the religious service
denotation like a mass.


I wouldn't expect a religious service at a florist or a car mechanic.
When it comes
to funerals, however...


From the US Federal Trade Checklist at


https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0301-funeral-costs-and-pricing-checklist

[1]
Visitation/viewing — staff and facilities __
Funeral or memorial service — staff and facilities __
Graveside service, including staff and equipment __


That's nice.  But it's not British English.  You can, however, use it
to argue that editor translations for US English should use visitation
for the preset name.


UK funeral industry shows both 'Chapel of Rest', or that term with
visitation / viewing, some just have 'venue rental'. CoR is fairly
typical.


Precisely.  CoR seems to be the commonest term for it.  And less
ambiguous than "visitation" (people visit patients in hospitals) or
"viewing" (people view paintings in art galleries).


Problem 3. I've not encountered that term as a synonym for a

chapel of

rest. But I've not looked very hard. Citation needed.


https://funeralresources.com/resources/viewing-and-visitation-costs/
[2]
https://funerals.org/?consumers=read-funeral-home-price-list/ [3]
https://www.thefuneralsite.com/ResourceCenters/Costs/How_much.html
[4]


The first two are in the US.  The third gives me a "problem loading
page"
error.


... and hundreds more. Canada seems to be similar to the US.


None of which are renowned for using British English.  Again, this is
for editor preset translations.


Viewing / Visitation seem to translate well


https://www.floridafuneralhome.com/Content/Media/FloridaFuneralHomeAndCrematory/Spa%20-%20Crem%20w%20View%202018-07-01.pdf

[5]
زيارة مشاهدة الجنازة ( Arabic ) goes to 'Funeral
watch visit', i.e. it survives round trips through google Translate.


Not pertinent.  The general policy is tags use British English.  There
is no
requirement that they survive round trips through google translate.

--

Paul



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[3] https://funerals.org/?consumers=read-funeral-home-price-list/
[4] https://www.thefuneralsite.com/ResourceCenters/Costs/How_much.html
[5]
https://www.floridafuneralhome.com/Content/Media/FloridaFuneralHomeAndCrematory/Spa%20-%20Crem%20w%20View%202018-07-01.pdf
[6] 

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Chapel of rest)

2020-09-25 Thread wolle68
"Wake rooms" was at one time my favorite, but then I was told that some 
people might associate "wake" with a particular denomination as well.


I'm not a native speaker either, so I can't judge.

Something with "viewing" might be nice as well; "funeral viewing room" 
(between quotation marks) yields some interesting results on Google. A 
bit long, but at this point, I'd take that as a minor incovenience.


Am 25.09.2020 15:09 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:

sent from a phone

On 25. Sep 2020, at 00:51, Michael Patrick  
wrote:


( I once went to one in Detroit, where the open casket and reception 
line was right there with tables of people eating brunch ('wake')).



so it could be “wake_room”?
Now this might sound a tad euphemistic as well, but search engines
actually restitute pertinent results.

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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Chapel of rest)

2020-09-21 Thread wolle68

Dear all,

As already mentioned, another ripple effect of my first proposal has 
materialised, the need to be able to properly tag chapels of rest as 
well.


Therefore please comment on the following proposal:

Chapel of rest: a room or building where families and friends can come 
and view someone who has died before their funeral


Proposal page: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Chapel_of_rest
Discussion page: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Chapel_of_rest


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[Tagging] Chapels-of-rest

2020-09-18 Thread wolle68

Hello,

The ripple effect of my proposal for amenity=funeral_hall continues.

Now, it appears that we might need a tag for chapels-of-rest, if we want 
to avoid confusion.


Alas, "chapel" will be opposed by some for being religiously connotated. 
"Funeral home" or "funeral parlor" will end up being used for funeral 
directors shops.


So, before I make another proposal, I would like to determine the term 
that has the least bad chance of being acceptable for as many people as 
possible.


If you are inspired, please go here:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:amenity%3Dfuneral_hall#Fun.C3.A9rariums.2C_Aufbahrungshallen_etc.

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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (DEPRECATED building=funeral hall)

2020-09-17 Thread wolle68

Dear list,

Please comment on the following proposal:

Tagging: building=funeral_hall
Definition: DEPRECATED, use building=yes combined with 
amenity=funeral_hall instead


(This is an offshoot from my recent proposal for amenity=funeral_hall, 
due to comments made there.)


Proposal page: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/DEPRECATED_building%3Dfuneral_hall
Discussion page: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/DEPRECATED_building%3Dfuneral_hall


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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (funeral hall=*)

2020-09-17 Thread wolle68

Dear list,

Please comment on the following proposal:

A building or room for funeral ceremonies ancillary to a funeral 
directors shop or a crematorium (subtag)


(This is an offshoot from my previous proposal, due to comments made 
there.)


Proposal page: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/funeral_hall%3D*
Discussion page: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/funeral_hall%3D*


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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Funeral hall

2020-09-01 Thread wolle68

Dear list,

Please vote on the following proposal:

Funeral hall: place for holding a funeral ceremony, other than a place 
of worship


Proposal page: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Funeral_hall
Discussion page: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Funeral_hall


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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread wolle68
I'm completely open to suggestions in this regard. I took the key I've 
already seen used by some, but if someone comes up with a better idea, 
great.


Am 19.08.2020 18:37 schrieb Volker Schmidt:

With respect to the proposed key, I would invite you to consider an
alternative way of tagging this function.
In various countries and in various religions the approaches on how to
say good-bye to the dead are different.
I am thinking of the "camera ardente" in Italy or the "Aufbahrung" in
Germany, these are ways of providing this in different contexts. What
about a tag that can be added to any kind of place, a funeral
director's or a chapel or the town hall, indicating that this kind of
farewell can be arranged.
I do not have the correct wording in GB English right now ("laying
out"?), but the concept would be not to create a tag that implies a
dedicated building, but to create a tag for the function that can be
added to a building or a "shop".
 wrote:


In the US, there are privately owned cemeteries, often with a
private funeral home / mortuary building on the site. You can buy a
plot and also pay for the funeral services, including the use of a
hall for a viewing, reception or funeral service (religious or
otherwise).

E.g.:


https://www.dignitymemorial.com/funeral-homes/glendale-az/west-resthaven-funeral-home/4707

[2] - a funeral home and private cemetery.

In many American cities most of the cemeteries, crematoriums and
mausoleums are privately owned and operated.

So my question is if we should add this new tag to the reception /
service halls which are found at at private funeral homes /
mortuaries as well? Often these are in the same building as the
crematorium and the morgue (where bodies are prepared and stored
prior to burial or cremation), and the offices and reception for the
funeral home are also there.

Or are we only thinking to use this new tag for stand-alone halls?

It would also be good to clarify how these are different than a
place_of_worship. For example, consider the many non-sectarian
chapels and prayer rooms found in airports, shopping centres,
hospitals, and similar public facilities. Aren't those tagged as
amenity=place_of_worship - or is that also a mistake?

- Joseph Eisenberg

On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 7:13 AM  wrote:


Not important at all. I just think that if it is ancillary to the
business of selling coffins, transporting corpses, preparing them
for
burial, doing paperwork in relation to that etc. (what the French
call a
"funérarium"), then it doesn't deserve a tag distinct from the
funeral
directors tag (but if a majority think otherwise, I don't have
strong
feelings about it either).

Am 19.08.2020 15:47 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:

sent from a phone


On 19. Aug 2020, at 15:33, woll...@posteo.de wrote:

I could imagine rare cases of a privately run cemetery not

linked to

any religion or belief/life stance and where there is such a

building.

But typically, they would be public.



let me rephrase my question: how important is it that the

facility is

“public”?
IMHO this feature should have a functional definition only,

everything

else depends on the context and is not really relevant.

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread wolle68
I'm not familiar with such privately owned cemeteries, so others may be 
better placed.


Here are my thoughts from what you write:

If there is a crematorium, as I already wrote, I think it's pointless to 
add such a new tag, because a room like that would probably go with any 
crematorium anyhow (or maybe one could tag it if the building is 
completely distinct).


Funeral directors often have their own ceremony rooms in some countries. 
Just as with the crematorium, I wouldn't add a tag unless it's a 
distinct building (but I'm completely open about this).


Here, if I've understood correctly, we have a funeral directors shop 
with its own cemetery.  I suppose it makes sense to tag a "funeral 
hall", because for other cemeteries we would also give the info that 
they have such premises. In the case of your example, they appear to 
have two spaces "chapel space" for religious funerals and "event space" 
for others.  If you know where they are, you could even tag one 
amenity=place_of_worship / religion=multifaith and the other 
amenity=funeral_hall.


To sum it up, we could say to tag any such premise, unless it is clearly 
ancillary to an already tagged crematorium or funeral directors shop.


For those airport chapels, I guess they are supposed to be at least 
religious. As long as that is the case, I don't see an issue with "place 
of worship".  The day they start calling their chapel "meditation room", 
we might indeed have to think about something else.



Am 19.08.2020 17:56 schrieb Joseph Eisenberg:

In the US, there are privately owned cemeteries, often with a private
funeral home / mortuary building on the site. You can buy a plot and
also pay for the funeral services, including the use of a hall for a
viewing, reception or funeral service (religious or otherwise).

 E.g.:
https://www.dignitymemorial.com/funeral-homes/glendale-az/west-resthaven-funeral-home/4707
[2] - a funeral home and private cemetery.

In many American cities most of the cemeteries, crematoriums and
mausoleums are privately owned and operated.

So my question is if we should add this new tag to the reception /
service halls which are found at at private funeral homes / mortuaries
as well? Often these are in the same building as the crematorium and
the morgue (where bodies are prepared and stored prior to burial or
cremation), and the offices and reception for the funeral home are
also there.

Or are we only thinking to use this new tag for stand-alone halls?

It would also be good to clarify how these are different than a
place_of_worship. For example, consider the many non-sectarian chapels
and prayer rooms found in airports, shopping centres, hospitals, and
similar public facilities. Aren't those tagged as
amenity=place_of_worship - or is that also a mistake?

- Joseph Eisenberg

On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 7:13 AM  wrote:


Not important at all. I just think that if it is ancillary to the
business of selling coffins, transporting corpses, preparing them
for
burial, doing paperwork in relation to that etc. (what the French
call a
"funérarium"), then it doesn't deserve a tag distinct from the
funeral
directors tag (but if a majority think otherwise, I don't have
strong
feelings about it either).

Am 19.08.2020 15:47 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:

sent from a phone


On 19. Aug 2020, at 15:33, woll...@posteo.de wrote:

I could imagine rare cases of a privately run cemetery not

linked to

any religion or belief/life stance and where there is such a

building.

But typically, they would be public.



let me rephrase my question: how important is it that the

facility is

“public”?
IMHO this feature should have a functional definition only,

everything

else depends on the context and is not really relevant.

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread wolle68
Not important at all. I just think that if it is ancillary to the 
business of selling coffins, transporting corpses, preparing them for 
burial, doing paperwork in relation to that etc. (what the French call a 
"funérarium"), then it doesn't deserve a tag distinct from the funeral 
directors tag (but if a majority think otherwise, I don't have strong 
feelings about it either).


Am 19.08.2020 15:47 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:

sent from a phone


On 19. Aug 2020, at 15:33, woll...@posteo.de wrote:
I could imagine rare cases of a privately run cemetery not linked to 
any religion or belief/life stance and where there is such a building. 
But typically, they would be public.



let me rephrase my question: how important is it that the facility is 
“public”?

IMHO this feature should have a functional definition only, everything
else depends on the context and is not really relevant.

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread wolle68
I could imagine rare cases of a privately run cemetery not linked to any 
religion or belief/life stance and where there is such a building. But 
typically, they would be public. That being said, all cemeteries I know 
personally are run either by a government entity or a religious 
denomination; other people might have further insights.


Am 19.08.2020 12:06 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:

sent from a phone


On 19. Aug 2020, at 10:23, woll...@posteo.de wrote:

Indeed, this is not about a business, but a public facility



must the facility be “public” or could it be a private facility as 
well?


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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread wolle68
If there is a crematorium, I agree that it should take precedence, and I 
can't imagine a crematorium without such a room. However, more often 
than not, there is no crematorium while there is such a funeral hall 
(quite often actually colloquially called a "chapel", but "chapel" falls 
under the category "place of worship").


Am 19.08.2020 13:59 schrieb Philip Barnes:

On Wed, 2020-08-19 at 10:26 +0200, woll...@posteo.de wrote:

Funeral directors are a business, this is a public facility
(generally)
on a cemetery. A mortuary is for storing corpses, that's often
associated to this kind of ceremonial place, but not necessarily.


Looking around my local area these have simply been mapped as
amenity=crematorium. They are publicly owned and have a chapel within
them.

They are used by all religions and non-religions.

Phil (trigpoint)



Am 19.08.2020 01:36 schrieb Joseph Eisenberg:
> There is already an existing tag with similar meaning for funeral
> homes / funeral halls / funeral directors:  shop=funeral_directors.
> The use of the key "shop=" is odd, but it's been used over 20,000
> times so it seems to be well established:
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dfuneral_directors
> [4] -
> documented since 2009:
>
> "Also known as a "funeral parlour","undertaker", "funeral home", or
> "memorial home".
>
> A funeral directors [5] shop is a place where arrangements to
> permanently store the physical body after death are made. An event
> (sometimes with the deceased's body present) to honor the deceased
> for
> mourners are held here in conjunction with religious services which
> are held elsewhere."
> There is also a related tag amenity=mortuary -
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dmortuary [6]
>
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 1:03 PM  wrote:
>
> > Dear list,
> >
> > Please comment on the following proposal:
> >
> > Funeral hall: a building for funeral ceremonies which may be
> > religious
> > or secular
> >
> > Proposal page:
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Funeral_hall
> > [1]
> > Discussion page:
> >
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Funeral_hall
> > [2]
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Vollis
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> [2]
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Funeral_hall
> [3] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
> [4]
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dfuneral_directors
> [5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Funeral_director
> [6] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dmortuary
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread wolle68
Funeral directors are a business, this is a public facility (generally) 
on a cemetery. A mortuary is for storing corpses, that's often 
associated to this kind of ceremonial place, but not necessarily.


Am 19.08.2020 01:36 schrieb Joseph Eisenberg:

There is already an existing tag with similar meaning for funeral
homes / funeral halls / funeral directors:  shop=funeral_directors.
The use of the key "shop=" is odd, but it's been used over 20,000
times so it seems to be well established:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dfuneral_directors [4] -
documented since 2009:

"Also known as a "funeral parlour","undertaker", "funeral home", or
"memorial home".

A funeral directors [5] shop is a place where arrangements to
permanently store the physical body after death are made. An event
(sometimes with the deceased's body present) to honor the deceased for
mourners are held here in conjunction with religious services which
are held elsewhere."
There is also a related tag amenity=mortuary -
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dmortuary [6]

On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 1:03 PM  wrote:


Dear list,

Please comment on the following proposal:

Funeral hall: a building for funeral ceremonies which may be
religious
or secular

Proposal page:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Funeral_hall
[1]
Discussion page:


https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Funeral_hall

[2]

Thanks!

Vollis

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Links:
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[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Funeral_hall
[2] 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Funeral_hall

[3] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[4] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dfuneral_directors
[5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Funeral_director
[6] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dmortuary

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread wolle68

Indeed, this is not about a business, but a public facility.

Am 19.08.2020 09:34 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:

sent from a phone

On 19. Aug 2020, at 01:38, Joseph Eisenberg 
 wrote:


similar meaning for funeral homes / funeral halls / funeral directors: 
 shop=funeral_directors.
The use of the key "shop=" is odd, but it's been used over 20,000 
times so it seems to be well established:



this is about a business which organizes funerals, while the OP wants
to tag a place like a chapel, where funeral ceremonies are held, but
which is religion agnostic (not specifically christian).

Cheers Martin
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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-18 Thread wolle68

Dear list,

Please comment on the following proposal:

Funeral hall: a building for funeral ceremonies which may be religious 
or secular


Proposal page: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Funeral_hall
Discussion page: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Funeral_hall


Thanks!

Vollis




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