Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden

2013-12-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/12/5 Wolfgang Hinsch osm-lis...@ivkasogis.de how should it be tagged? Is it ok to tag the whole residential area between the streets as one leisure=garden including all buildings etc. or shall every garden be tagged as leisure=garden separately in it's place and only there? I would

[Tagging] leisure=garden

2013-12-05 Thread cracklinrain
Hi, the wiki page of leisure=garden says that every ordinary garden, which is not accessible by the public (not even once), can be tagged as leisure=garden. You just have to tag it to access=private. I actually do not think that this is helpful for anybody. On the other hand: Isn't it already

Re: [Tagging] Are addresses ... objects vs attributes

2013-07-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
of the values above like swimming are currently under the sport key, not leisure. Typical values for leisure are pitch, track, stadium, marina, playground, park, garden... cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-14 Thread Pee Wee
> > > 1. Has this issue been discussed before and if so … what was the > outcome? > > 2. If not… do you agree with me that private front/back garden > should not be tagged with leisure=garden but with a non-leisure tag? (if > so… any suggestions? And wha

Re: [Tagging] landcover=trees definition

2015-08-18 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
2015-08-17 18:50 GMT+02:00 Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at: Or landuse=flowerbed and possibly species=Mesembryanthemum crystallinum. There is already leisure=garden. It (or [leisure=garden, gerden=flowerbed] or maybe leisure=flowerbed) would be far better than yet another too detailed landuse

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden

2013-12-05 Thread bulwersator
Hi, the wiki page of leisure=garden says that every ordinary garden, which is not accessible by the public (not even once), can be tagged as leisure=garden. You just have to tag it to access=private. I actually do not think that this is helpful for anybody. On the other hand: Isn't

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden

2013-12-05 Thread Wolfgang Hinsch
? Is it ok to tag the whole residential area between the streets as one leisure=garden including all buildings etc. or shall every garden be tagged as leisure=garden separately in it's place and only there? Some mappers use this tag making residential unvisible. cheers Wolfgang

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden

2013-12-05 Thread bulwersator
=garden including all buildings etc. or shall every garden be tagged as leisure=garden separately in it's place and only there? I would only use it on the effective garden area, overlapping the landuse=residential area. Buildings and non-garden areas should not be included. cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden

2013-12-06 Thread nounours
? Is it ok to tag the whole residential area between the streets as one leisure=garden including all buildings etc. or shall every garden be tagged as leisure=garden separately in it's place and only there? I would only use it on the effective garden area, overlapping the landuse=residential area

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating of leisure=common and leisure=village_green

2017-12-05 Thread Marc Gemis
den > 4 & 6 (park & garden) are on a different conceptual level as the others. A park and garden can have grassy areas, trees, hedges, flowerbeds etc. That is why garden and park are "leisure" keys and the rest should be under the landcover tag. For me, the

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-12 Thread Paul Allen
On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 at 08:13, Marc Gemis wrote: > > Why would a private garden require a different key? Indeed. A private garden is often used for leisure and is a garden. One might perhaps argue for different tagging to describe a private garden used for growing vegetables and

Re: [Tagging] Are addresses ... objects vs attributes

2013-07-25 Thread Peter Wendorff
natural=water, leisure=wildlife_hide on a side note some of the values above like swimming are currently under the sport key, not leisure. Typical values for leisure are pitch, track, stadium, marina, playground, park, garden... well, a pool that allows swimming, but is not useful

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-14 Thread Pee Wee
get a different amenity-key ? > No, we refine this with additional tags. > This method can be applied to private gardens as well. > > That is a good question. I would agree with you if the k/v would be e.g. natural=garden. This describes what it is and not what it is used for. Leisure=ga

Re: [Tagging] Are addresses ... objects vs attributes

2013-07-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/7/25 Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de on a side note some of the values above like swimming are currently under the sport key, not leisure. Typical values for leisure are pitch, track, stadium, marina, playground, park, garden... well, a pool that allows swimming

[Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-11 Thread Pee Wee
Hi all I would like your opinion on the next issue. On the Dutch forum (googletranslate <https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=nl=en=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.openstreetmap.org%2Fviewtopic.php%3Fid%3D0>) I started a thread about the tag leisure=garden for private front/back gardens.

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-13 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 13.07.2019 09:35, Volker Schmidt wrote: I have tagged many planted centre pieces of roundabouts as leisure=garden, access=private in lack of better alternatives. Why 'private' if it is a public roundabout? If it not allowed to trample the flowers down, wouldn't access=no be more

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-14 Thread Pee Wee
private gardens as well. > > regards > m > > Forgot to mention that since people started to map whole residential area's <http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/KI0>with leisure=garden even small completely paved strips in front of a houses are tagged. To me this is no garden an no

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-14 Thread Warin
v would be e.g. natural=garden. This describes what it is and not what it is used for. Leisure=garden does not only describe what it is (garden) but also what it is used for (leisure). If I look at all the other leisure values they give me the impression that they are meant for places one can

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Garden specification)

2010-05-24 Thread John Smith
2010/5/25 Petr Morávek [Xificurk] xific...@gmail.com: What's wrong with the current tags? leisure=park leisure=garden There is nothing wrong with that, but again - what's the landuse? I mean - it's not a wild natural ground, the land is used for specific purpose by people, so imho

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-13 Thread Alessandro Sarretta
On 13/07/19 20:44, Florian Lohoff wrote: The same reason i do not map my kitchen sink as a natural=water/water=pond Its not for the public leisure. I don't know if the issue here is public leisure (in this case it's maybe better to change the key "leisure" with something else),

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

2010-05-14 Thread Petr Morávek [Xificurk]
Roy Wallace napsal(a): On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 1:20 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: leisure=garden garden=residential Much better. This clearly means you are tagging a particular *type* of garden. I don't see in what sense is this better - your own remark 'someone lives

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Wedding Reception

2015-07-08 Thread Warin
of what it could be used for i.e. the function of an object. that lets you do sports or leisure activities? When the same physical stuff (lawn, trees, lake etc) was in a garden you might not be able to use it this way A park too maybe configured not to allow sports or leisure activities

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-12 Thread Peter Elderson
I'm fine with leisure=garden for private/common/public gardens Vr gr Peter Elderson Op vr 12 jul. 2019 om 07:24 schreef Pee Wee : > Hi all > > > I would like your opinion on the next issue. > > > On the Dutch forum (googletranslate > <https://translate.google.com/tra

Re: [Tagging] Arboretum - how to tag?

2018-10-10 Thread Warin
On 11/10/18 01:24, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 10. Oct 2018, at 15:10, Tobias Zwick <mailto:o...@westnordost.de>> wrote: Well, an Arboretum is a "botanical tree garden", is it not? So why not leisure=garden (+ maybe additional tags, see wiki article)

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 12. Jul 2019, at 07:23, Pee Wee wrote: > > It seems to me that OSM leisure=garden wiki changed meaning on may 3, 2010 > when someone added a description of “Garden” from the Wikipedia garden > description that refers to private gardens Frankly, I be

Re: [Tagging] Residential gardens: deprecate leisure=garden, suggest alternative

2011-05-24 Thread Vincent Pottier
in the wiki explaining this fact, and in fact landuse is regularly used for plot-sized areas of land. leisure=garden inside a landuse=residential area could be used for a private garden, maybe together with access=private. You can also use garden:type=residential with it: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki

Re: [Tagging] landcover=trees definition

2015-08-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 18.08.2015 um 10:51 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com: There is already leisure=garden. It (or [leisure=garden, gerden=flowerbed] or maybe leisure=flowerbed) would be far better than yet another too detailed landuse value. there are also garden:type

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

2010-05-13 Thread Roy Wallace
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 1:20 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: leisure=garden garden=residential Much better. This clearly means you are tagging a particular *type* of garden. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden

2013-12-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/12/7 cracklinrain cra_klinr...@gmx.de If there is no clear border of the area, it is recommended to use a node to describe the object. I do not agree with this part, a garden should have a clear border, or at least the mapper will have to decide where it ends. Usually it shouldn't

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Re: landcover=trees definition

2015-08-10 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 10.08.2015 um 11:56 schrieb Daniel Koć daniel@koć.pl: landcover=garden to me this is clearly a landuse, in osm typically mapped as leisure=garden This garden value should be discouraged for landcover cheers Martin

Re: [Tagging] Are addresses ... objects vs attributes

2013-07-25 Thread André Pirard
the sport key, not leisure. Typical values for leisure are pitch, track, stadium, marina, playground, park, garden... well, a pool that allows swimming, but is not useful for competitive

Re: [Tagging] Residential gardens: deprecate leisure=garden, suggest alternative

2011-05-24 Thread Andrew Chadwick (lists)
used for plot-sized areas of land. leisure=garden inside a landuse=residential area could be used for a private garden, maybe together with access=private. You can also use garden:type=residential with it: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Garden_specification -1

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

2010-05-14 Thread John F. Eldredge
...@gmail.com wrote: leisure=garden garden=residential Much better. This clearly means you are tagging a particular *type* of garden. I don't see in what sense is this better - your own remark 'someone lives in the garden?' applies here as well, and it's even worse, because imho residential=garden

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden

2013-12-05 Thread Masi Master
the whole residential area between the streets as one leisure=garden including all buildings etc. or shall every garden be tagged as leisure=garden separately in it's place and only there? I would only use it on the effective garden area, overlapping the landuse=residential area. Buildings and non

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden

2013-12-06 Thread Jonathan
Wolfgang Hinsch osm-lis...@ivkasogis.de mailto:osm-lis...@ivkasogis.de how should it be tagged? Is it ok to tag the whole residential area between the streets as one leisure=garden including all buildings etc. or shall every garden be tagged as leisure=garden separately in it's

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-12 Thread Florian Lohoff
tagged with the leisure key. On the talk page I saw that > there are more objections For me a leisure=* in OSM has some public usability assumption. Mapping every little green strip as a leisure=garden i would consider a tagging abuse. Flo -- Florian Lohoff

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-12 Thread Warin
with the leisure key. On the talk page I saw that there are more objections For me a leisure=* in OSM has some public usability assumption. Mapping every little green strip as a leisure=garden i would consider a tagging abuse. Some private gardens that front the street are publicly visible, I see

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

2010-05-14 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/14 Petr Morávek [Xificurk] xific...@gmail.com: That's the part of copied text from wikipedia, that really significantly changed the meaning of leisure=garden page on OSM wiki. Take a look at the history, only few weeks ago the content said something completely different (although

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-14 Thread Peter Elderson
Residential gardens in Nederland, as along as people refer to those as "My front garden" even when completely paved to support one tree-in-a-pot, are leisure things. From the air you commonly see rows of houses with strips of green in front and back, so it would make sense to tag t

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden

2013-12-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/12/7 Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de IMHO the whole area may be a residential area, and residential includes residential highways, houses, small parks and much more, But I wouldn't say the whole area is a garden, so a garden should only be tagged where there is a garden

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

2010-05-13 Thread John Smith
a better solution... maybe it would be better to add a new leisure value, I'm opened to reasonable suggestions. I have personally no idea what the proper english word could be. leisure=garden garden=residential ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging

[Tagging] beer_garden

2017-06-14 Thread Dave F
on the key: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=beer_garden#values Even though there's only five, I prefer 'leisure' as it ties in with 'leisure=garden' (389000) Amenity seems incorrect as the garden is a sub-feature of amenity=pub. Similarly for 'landuse' Suggestions? DaveF

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

2010-05-14 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/14 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_garden http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_garden I don't really see what the big deal is, leisure=garden can mean a lot of different things to a lot of different people, so it needs to be sub-tagged, +1

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden

2013-12-06 Thread Wolfgang Hinsch
could be a garden and a piece of art or design at the same time). Also zen gardens which AFAIK are mostly pebbles rather than lawn, will still have some tree (or bonsaii tree). The question remains how to tag: one area of ~50-100 private gardens as leisure=garden including the whole residential

Re: [Tagging] Residential gardens: deprecate leisure=garden, suggest alternative

2011-05-23 Thread Craig Wallace
On 23/05/2011 12:15, Andrew Chadwick (lists) wrote: I'm suggesting that we remove the language on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dgarden which recommends leisure=garden for tagging private residential gardens. The talk page entry is at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki

Re: [Tagging] Residential gardens: deprecate leisure=garden, suggest alternative

2011-05-24 Thread Andrew Chadwick (lists)
own. Semantically it's interesting: garden=residential defines some quality of garden-ness without declaring that it's for leisure use, or indeed for any other purpose. If you want to say more about an object you can add more tags, which makes it combinable with the existing schema. Does the object

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

2010-05-06 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
like this is grass, this is a bed of carrot, there are roses, here we have some bushes etc. why not? As long as people do want to do this and only tag what is there, I don't have a problem with it. * leisure='garden' or leisure='park' - see above leisure=park is not the right choice, sure

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

2010-05-14 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
be the right way to go... the problem is that currently leisure=garden alone is used for a lot of different areas and it's becoming useless without better usage description on wiki. +1, I agree, some subtags would be usefull. Probably some of them could be applicable to other tags as well (leisure

Re: [Tagging] Residential gardens: deprecate leisure=garden, suggest alternative

2011-05-24 Thread Sander Deryckere
If there would be a consensus on only using landuse=* tags on bigger surfaces (and not for single houses), the use of residential=garden or garden=residential should be possible without it being in a landuse=residential area. In Belgium, the spatial planning is worthless and there are lots

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden

2013-12-06 Thread Peter Wendorff
pebbles rather than lawn, will still have some tree (or bonsaii tree). The question remains how to tag: one area of ~50-100 private gardens as leisure=garden including the whole residential area whith buildings etc. or garden by garden. cheers, Osmonav

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

2010-05-06 Thread Chris Hill
Jonas Minnberg wrote: [snip] landuse=yard (For private backyards etc, usually inaccessible, even if they may look park-like on the satellite). In the UK we would sometimes call a backyard a garden. leisure=garden already exists. Cheers, Chris

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Garden specification)

2010-05-18 Thread Petr Morávek [Xificurk]
Hi, I had finally some time to write down some proposal of sub-tagging for leisure=garden as discussed earlier. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Garden_specification Since I'm no big gardener any comments and suggestions are more than welcomed. Regards, Petr Morávek

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden

2013-12-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/12/5 cracklinrain cra_klinr...@gmx.de Some building=hut maybe included - in my opinion this does not matter. if it's in the garden, why not. Actually usually gardens are distinct from each other. How will you map this? I mean leisure=garden is not like landuse covering hundreds

Re: [Tagging] random lawns and uncontrolled shrubs tagged as leisure=garden

2018-05-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
hat people frequently use it for areas that include nothing more > than standard lawns (like at > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tiny_homes_-_Davey_Crescent_-_geograph.org.uk_-_755400.jpg > ) leisure=garden is used for different kind of gardens, there is a sub categorizati

Re: [Tagging] Arboretum - how to tag?

2018-10-10 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 10. Oct 2018, at 15:10, Tobias Zwick wrote: > > Well, an Arboretum is a "botanical tree garden", is it not? So why not > leisure=garden (+ maybe additional tags, see wiki article)? if it is seen as garden, I would use garden:type=arboretum From

Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new main key culture

2010-11-07 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
to a similar group of items: Currently leisure lists the following main tags: dog_park sports_centre golf_course stadium track pitch water_park marina slipway (is clearly a technical facility for boats and has nothing to do with leisure IMHO). fishing nature_reserve park playground garden common ice_rink

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-13 Thread Volker Schmidt
I have tagged many planted centre pieces of roundabouts as leisure=garden, access=private in lack of better alternatives. On Sat, 13 Jul 2019, 02:18 Warin, <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 12/07/19 21:00, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 07:23:01AM +0200

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

2010-05-10 Thread Petr Morávek [Xificurk]
I really really don't think it is a good idea to degrade the leisure='garden' tag to mark everything from a castle garden, dendrological garden (with or without public access), or e.g. small Japanese garden belonging to a tea-house, to the extreme case of plain cut grass in some backyard

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden

2013-12-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 06/dic/2013 um 13:39 schrieb cracklinrain cra_klinr...@gmx.de: Well, I would say a stone garden without plants is probably still a garden. But an area made of concrete is still a (small) yard or else. If it's too strange it should be tagged as artwork maybe. But by definition

[Tagging] Residential gardens: deprecate leisure=garden, suggest alternative

2011-05-23 Thread Andrew Chadwick (lists)
I'm suggesting that we remove the language on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dgarden which recommends leisure=garden for tagging private residential gardens. The talk page entry is at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:leisure%3Dgarden and I welcome your comments

Re: [Tagging] landuse for arboretum

2010-11-10 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/10/10 7:28 PM, John Smith wrote: On 11 November 2010 08:27, Craig Wallacecraig...@fastmail.fm wrote: Wouldn't it be covered by leisure=garden? ie Place where flowers and other plants are grown in a decorative and structured manner or for scientific purposes. Its just it specifically

Re: [Tagging] landuse for arboretum

2010-11-10 Thread John Smith
On 11 November 2010 08:27, Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm wrote: Wouldn't it be covered by leisure=garden? ie Place where flowers and other plants are grown in a decorative and structured manner or for scientific purposes. Its just it specifically focuses on trees, as opposed to flowers

Re: [Tagging] landuse=residential and named residential areas which belong together (neighbourhoods/subdivisions?)

2011-08-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/8/31 Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com: I'm a city dweller. We have some (and will soon have some very prominent) rooftop parks. That's fine, you can tag them with leisure=park (or maybe leisure=garden, and garden:type) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dgarden http

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-13 Thread Florian Lohoff
atural=water/water=pond Its not for the public leisure. Flo -- Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de UTF-8 Test: The  ran after a , but the  ran away signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Are addresses ... objects vs attributes

2013-07-25 Thread Peter Wendorff
Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de mailto:wendo...@uni-paderborn.de on a side note some of the values above like swimming are currently under the sport key, not leisure. Typical values for leisure are pitch, track, stadium, marina, playground, park, garden... well, a pool

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden

2013-12-05 Thread cracklinrain
etc applicable. Actually usually gardens are distinct from each other. How will you map this? I mean leisure=garden is not like landuse covering hundreds of gardens (with different style). The only valueable solution in context with barrier=fance are multipolygons... I assume that too few mappers

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-12 Thread Pee Wee
gmail.com>: > > > sent from a phone > > On 12. Jul 2019, at 07:23, Pee Wee wrote: > > It seems to me that OSM leisure=garden wiki changed meaning on may 3, 2010 > when someone added a description of “Garden” from the Wikipedia garden > description that refers to pri

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Wedding Reception

2015-07-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
physical stuff (lawn, trees, lake etc) was in a garden you might not be able to use it this way Leisure is not an object but an action/function. in osm it is a key that describes objects, like swimming pools for instance, or football pitches. cheers Martin

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Garden specification)

2010-05-22 Thread John Smith
like a park and a soccer field are 2 different things even if you can play soccer in a park. Anyway, what do you think is an appropriate landuse value for areas like public gardens and parks? By the way, you can do for example jogging in What's wrong with the current tags? leisure=park leisure

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

2014-07-30 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
that addition, which I find completely useless. A park or garden around a church or temple is a leisure=park or leisure=garden in the first place. A religious school is an amenity=school. A dormitory is (part of) a landuse=residential. You can always add a religion=* tag to these features. But religion

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden

2013-12-07 Thread cracklinrain
by its vegetation. If you do not want to use a new tag for public gardens, those should at least be mentioned at leisure=garden. Now the description seems to be written generally for private gardens. Which could also mean, that it is necessary to add access=yes to the POI, if it should be noticed

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden

2013-12-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/12/7 John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com In US usage, a garden is an area set aside for deliberate cultivation of plants; in UK usage, the entire area of land surrounding a house is a garden, whether you are cultivating plants, have it covered in grass, or are just letting it grow weeds

Re: [Tagging] Wrong use of landuse=village_green - but what else to use?

2017-01-11 Thread Marc Gemis
On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Yves <yve...@gmail.com> wrote: > Garden with access=no? Only for the eyes. The wiki page on garden [1] explicitly mentions private gardens, e.g. around castles. So yes, for a private garden, you will have the tags: landuse=residential, access=private

Re: [Tagging] Tagging small areas of bushes, flowers, non-woody perennials, succulents, etc

2020-02-08 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
If talking about them, or trying to describe them to somebody, I would call all of those examples either garden beds or flower beds. When I've mapped similar beds as part of a park, I've gone with leisure=garden https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure=garden?uselang=en-AU working

Re: [Tagging] war_memorial

2017-10-04 Thread Warin
s/@-28.0070891,153.3834806,174m/data=%213m1%211e3?hl=en>, the Regional Arboretum is only an open group of trees, so how should it be mapped? It's definitely not intended for forestry / logging purposes, so it's not landuse=forest It's hardly a forest, so not natural=wood Doesn't produce a

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden

2013-12-07 Thread John F. Eldredge
On 12/07/2013 01:09 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2013/12/7 cracklinrain cra_klinr...@gmx.de mailto:cra_klinr...@gmx.de If there is no clear border of the area, it is recommended to use a node to describe the object. I do not agree with this part, a garden should have a clear border

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

2010-05-14 Thread John Smith
and structured are highly subjective terms when it comes to gardens. Are you aware of the two main lines of European garden history? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_garden http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_garden I don't really see what the big deal is, leisure=garden can mean a lot

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

2010-05-14 Thread John Smith
2010/5/15 Petr Morávek [Xificurk] xific...@gmail.com: That's the thing, I'm not convinced that a lawn should be tagged as leisure=garden just because it's behind a fence around a family house. To me it isn't the lawn that makes the garden, but the fact that the garden can be viewed

Re: [Tagging] Residential gardens: deprecate leisure=garden, suggest alternative

2011-05-23 Thread Vincent Pottier
Le 23/05/2011 14:17, Craig Wallace a écrit : On 23/05/2011 12:15, Andrew Chadwick (lists) wrote: I'm suggesting that we remove the language on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dgarden which recommends leisure=garden for tagging private residential gardens. The talk page entry

Re: [Tagging] Residential gardens: deprecate leisure=garden, suggest alternative

2011-05-23 Thread fly
Am 23.05.2011 14:57, schrieb Vincent Pottier: Le 23/05/2011 14:17, Craig Wallace a écrit : On 23/05/2011 12:15, Andrew Chadwick (lists) wrote: I'm suggesting that we remove the language on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dgarden which recommends leisure=garden for tagging

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden

2013-12-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/12/5 cracklinrain cra_klinr...@gmx.de What do you think? have a look at garden:type and garden:style if you are interested in further details: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Garden_specification cheers, Martin ___

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden

2013-12-06 Thread nounours
Am 06.12.2013 um 02:05 schrieb Masi Master: I think we don't should tag something at a private (really private) ground in a residential (except the house, entrance and way to it). IMO we don't need any private things like swimmingpools, ways, trees, sandboxes or playgrounds at the backyard

Re: [Tagging] Wrong use of landuse=village_green - but what else to use?

2017-01-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-01-11 22:40 GMT+01:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > And I disagree with all of them being leisure=garden. > The green patches between a road and a footway are not 'leisure' things .. > they are 'safety' things .. particularly beside busy roads. > I believe you a

Re: [Tagging] beer_garden

2017-06-15 Thread Dave F
On 14/06/2017 16:25, Volker Schmidt wrote: Certainly I would not put beer garden in "leisure" it's clearly a food place, hence amenity. The pub covers food & drink hence 'amenity=pub'. If that's mapped as a polygon, *=beer_garden is a sub-set with the whole bou

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden

2013-12-06 Thread cracklinrain
Am 06.12.2013 13:26, schrieb Matthijs Melissen: I agree with Martin. Also the fact that an object (parking, garden, swimming pool) is private is in itself useful information for the general public. You might for example see a parking or garden on aerial imagery, and wonder if it's possible

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

2010-05-06 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
, it is simply wrong. Nobody in his right mind will tag a private yard/garden with highway=pedestrian. if it's a garden, I would tag it like this (leisure=garden, access=private) if it's a backyard, it is IMHO not wrong. cheers, Martin ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Wrong use of landuse=village_green - but what else to use?

2017-01-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-01-11 12:45 GMT+01:00 Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com>: > The wiki page on garden [1] explicitly mentions private gardens, e.g. > around castles. > So yes, for a private garden, you will have the tags: > landuse=residential, access=private, leisure=garden + smaller polygon

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

2010-05-14 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/14 Petr Morávek [Xificurk] xific...@gmail.com: And the added bonus of abusing leisure=garden tag... Let me one more time explain what I think is wrong on this tag, so here is an example: Step two: Which one of these lines better describes the area? A) Place where flowers and other

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden

2013-12-06 Thread cracklinrain
waterway? But all of this is landcover, stuff about water and barriers - no POIs at all. Leisure seems to be more like a POI. Making an evaluation in which areas of the cities there are private pools and in which there aren't might lead to interesting results for instance. But private != public

Re: [Tagging] Decorative flower fields? (not as a crop?)

2015-11-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
a tag that might be suitable for similar features: man_made=flower_bed There are not so many instances so far: http://taginfo.osm.org/tags/man_made=flower_bed In the case of very big / standalone installations I'd also tend to leisure=garden, while there could still be some individual flower beds tag

Re: [Tagging] Residential gardens: deprecate leisure=garden, suggest alternative

2011-05-23 Thread Jo
Sounds good to me. Polyglot 2011/5/23 Andrew Chadwick (lists) a.t.chadwick+li...@gmail.com I'm suggesting that we remove the language on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dgarden which recommends leisure=garden for tagging private residential gardens. The talk page entry

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Garden specification)

2010-05-18 Thread Petr Morávek [Xificurk]
or less obsoletes leisure=park? Shall we allow the values garden:type and garden:style for parks as well? This could be done by simply avoiding the prefix (type and style without the garden). I have thought about that, but... 1) We need the prefix, so it is clear type/style of what we

Re: [Tagging] war_memorial

2017-10-04 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
intended for forestry / logging purposes, so it's not landuse=forest It's hardly a forest, so not natural=wood Doesn't produce anything so not landuse=orchard Leisure=garden? Garden brings to mind flowers & bushes, not trees, but I guess it may still apply? On 5 October 2017 at 09:2

[Tagging] Greenery adjacent to roads

2010-07-13 Thread charlie
and decorative plants in varying proportions. In many cases it kind of looks like a park, but no-one in their right mind would actually try to use it as such (and indeed, in central reservations they'd have to be suicidal to try). One idea might be: leisure=garden or leisure=park combined

Re: [Tagging] landuse for arboretum

2010-11-10 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 7:28 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 November 2010 08:27, Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm wrote: Wouldn't it be covered by leisure=garden? ie Place where flowers and other plants are grown in a decorative and structured manner or for scientific

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Bandstand

2012-03-11 Thread Johan Jönsson
informal) A question, there is no such things as indoor band-stands, right? There could be some controversy if one instead want one tag for all small pavilions, garden-kiosks, gazebos out there. building=pavilion If one would want one tag for all music-playing places, leaisure=music_venue or leisure

Re: [Tagging] Wrong use of landuse=village_green - but what else to use?

2017-01-11 Thread Chris Hill
doesn't stop someone micro mapping to add more detail. -- cheers Chris Hill (chillly) On 11/01/2017 21:40, Warin wrote: And I disagree with all of them being leisure=garden. The green patches between a road and a footway are not 'leisure' things .. they are 'safety' things .. particularly

Re: [Tagging] Wrong use of landuse=village_green - but what else to use?

2017-01-11 Thread Warin
And I disagree with all of them being leisure=garden. The green patches between a road and a footway are not 'leisure' things .. they are 'safety' things .. particularly beside busy roads. If these same areas were covered with concrete .. would you still think of them as 'leisure'? In other

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

2010-05-07 Thread Petr Morávek [Xificurk]
only plain grass. * leisure='garden' or leisure='park' - see above leisure=park is not the right choice, sure. But leisure=garden could IMO qualify. a) because it is at least in some areas common practise ;-) and b) the size of the garden is already determined by the size of the polygon

Re: [Tagging] Tagging a sports club with a closed way

2011-08-03 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:32 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: This is a general query that could apply to many organisations, but as an example I'm going to use a tennis club to illustrate. This club has on it's site a car park, clubhouse, a garden a few tennis pitches. These I can

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