Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

> > Apparently the Red Cross have released an app (using Google Maps) that > > tracks the emergency shelters and also indicates which ones can't accept > > new evacuees because they are full. > > > PS , I haven't seem the Red Cross app but the reviews are not good, with > > one review describing

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Nick Hocking writes: > t seems that the Emergency shelter situation for Hurricane Irma is very > dynamic with over 200 new shelters being opened in just one day. Do you mean "places for which there has not previously been a plan to use them as a shelter"? > Apparently

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t seems that the Emergency shelter situation for Hurricane Irma is very dynamic with over 200 new shelters being opened in just one day. Apparently the Red Cross have released an app (using Google Maps) that tracks the emergency shelters and also indicates which ones can't accept new evacuees

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

On 09-Sep-17 01:10 PM, Blake Girardot wrote: On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 10:33 PM, Nick Hocking wrote: Eric wrote " This is an open database and we all "garden" the data to make sure that the information is correct." I think that information critical to safety needs a

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On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 10:33 PM, Nick Hocking wrote: > Eric wrote > > " This is an open database and we all "garden" the data to make sure that > the > information is correct." > > I think that information critical to safety needs a higher level of > verification than

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Eric wrote " This is an open database and we all "garden" the data to make sure that the information is correct." I think that information critical to safety needs a higher level of verification than just peer review. So the argument comes down to what is critical information. I normal times,

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sent from a phone > On 9. Sep 2017, at 01:15, Greg Troxel wrote: > > I see 1 as squarely what "social_facility=shelter" should mean. > > 2 I think "emergency=shelter" is good, and it's really not at all the > same thing as social_facility=shelter. > > 3 I would call

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Eric Christensen writes: > On 09/07/2017 11:24 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> do you recall why emergency:social_facility=shelter was chosen as a tag, >> rather than a simple "emergency=shelter"? Because social_facility >> shelter in osm is used with a different

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/07/2017 11:24 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > do you recall why emergency:social_facility=shelter was chosen as a tag, > rather than a simple "emergency=shelter"? Because social_facility > shelter in osm is used with a different meaning, so

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/07/2017 11:12 PM, Nick Hocking wrote: > Eric wrote "Why would you delete data that is still valid and > useful?" > > > My concern is that if these are permanent features, then people > will say "ooh - they'll be the same as last time" and

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2017-09-08 0:26 GMT+02:00 tomoya muramoto : > >> >> (1) "emergency=shelter" is not defined in wiki > > (2) wiki says social_facility=shelter can be applied to "Emergency Shelter" > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:social_facility%3Dshelter > We wanted to show the

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ap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters Eric wrote "Why would you delete data that is still valid and useful?" My concern is that if these are permanent features, then people will say "ooh - they'll be the same as last time" and of course they probably won't be the sam

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Authorities routinely post the hurricane evacuation centers for a year as they do change a little bit year to year. but the core typically remains the same, schools etc. These just need a good lifecycle tag. Like "good until' date, after which it can be easily found and removed. I proposed

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Eric wrote "Why would you delete data that is still valid and useful?" My concern is that if these are permanent features, then people will say "ooh - they'll be the same as last time" and of course they probably won't be the same as last time and we may route people to a wrong place, with

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> > > do you recall why emergency:social_facility=shelter was chosen as a tag, > rather than a simple "emergency=shelter"? Because social_facility shelter > in osm is used with a different meaning, so it seems quite odd. > > (1) "emergency=shelter" is not defined in wiki (2) wiki says

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/07/2017 04:08 AM, Nick Hocking wrote: > The list of emergency centers would be very much dependent on where > the threat is and what the nature of the threat is. As a former emergency management planner I'll go on the record as saying...

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On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: > > Nick Hocking writes: > > > Do we have a tagging scheme for emergency shelters to be used in times of > > natural disasters? > > Around me, there are almost no places that would be described like this

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Nick Hocking writes: > Do we have a tagging scheme for emergency shelters to be used in times of > natural disasters? > > Off the top of my head I could see tags such as > > emergency=shelter Around me, there are almost no places that would be described like this as

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Le 07. 09. 17 à 17:24, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : >> emegency:social_facility=shelter > social_facility shelter in osm is used with a different meaning, > so it seems quite odd. +1 :( 2017-09-07 13:41 GMT+02:00 tomoya muramoto : > hazard_type=* feel free to add some info in the wiki

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2017-09-07 13:41 GMT+02:00 tomoya muramoto : > (1) Evacuation shelter > Many schools are designated as evacuation shelter for natural disaster > such as flooding. > amenity=school > emegency:social_facility=shelter > hazard_type=* > > do you recall why

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There was a discussion here on "Disaster response" in April. https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2017-April/032127.html Another discussion back in December 2015 "If a school is a shelter when a disaster happens..."

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Hi all, Japanese community has decided to use following tags (Discussed here https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2017-July/009817.html) (1) Evacuation shelter Many schools are designated as evacuation shelter for natural disaster such as flooding. amenity=school

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Marc wrote "*open=yes/no *except this one. what do you mean ?" Yes, I agree , this one is silly and means nothing. They are always open, and if closed will be just deleted from the map. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

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Le 07. 09. 17 à 05:48, Nick Hocking a écrit : > Do we have a tagging scheme for emergency shelters > to be used in times of natural disasters? why not, it could be consistent with the other emergency feature. > emergency=shelter > open=yes/no except this one. what do you mean ? for me a closed

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sent from a phone > On 7. Sep 2017, at 12:22, Walter Nordmann wrote: > > Hi (hallo) Martin, > > in Osm there are 94790 amenity=shelter and 1 (one) emergency=shelter. (Nodes > only, may be some more ways). > I think, you won't change that ;) > likely not alone ;-)

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sent from a phone > On 7. Sep 2017, at 10:38, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > > whereas amenity=shelter is a protection from something defined > in shelter_type=* the sun shelter protects from the sun, the weather shelter from the weather and the picnic shelter from picnics?

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Hi (hallo) Martin, in Osm there are 94790 amenity=shelter and 1 (one) emergency=shelter. (Nodes only, may be some more ways). I think, you won't change that ;) Am 07.09.2017 um 09:54 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: I would use "emergency" as the "main" key. Cheers, Martin

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On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 07:41:37 +0200 Marc Gemis wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 6:44 AM, Nick Hocking > wrote: >> >> "I think amenity=shelter is well established " > > The social facility shelter >

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The list of emergency centers would be very much dependent on where the threat is and what the nature of the threat is. Therefore I see these as being loaded (by the relevant authorities) only when a state of emergency is declared and only for the areas affected. These locations would therefore

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2017-09-07 9:49 GMT+02:00 Nick Hocking : > I don't think this school should be labelled with any kind of social > facility tag whereas it is only in a state of emergency that it would take > on the role of an emergency center. > especially as social_facility is in the

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the wikipedia page it refers to seem to describe the same facility as you do, not ? On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 8:34 AM, Nick Hocking wrote: > Marc wrote > "The social facility shelter > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:social_facility%3Dshelter > mentions emergency

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Marc wrote "The social facility shelter https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:social_facility%3Dshelter mentions emergency shelter." Yes it does, although I would think that these would usually be of limited capacity and meant for use at all times. I think we need tagging for large scale

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The social facility shelter https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:social_facility%3Dshelter mentions emergency shelter. m. On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 6:44 AM, Nick Hocking wrote: > Gerd wrote > > "I think amenity=shelter is well established " > > Yes, I read that but saw

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Gerd wrote "I think amenity=shelter is well established " Yes, I read that but saw that it said "a small place", so it doesn't seem appropriate for disaster relief situations. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

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agging] Emergency shelters Do we have a tagging scheme for emergency shelters to be used in times of natural disasters? Off the top of my head I could see tags such as emergency=shelter protects_from= wind flood radiation/nuclear fallout fire earthquake bomb blast pet=yes/no bed=yes/no

[Tagging] Emergency shelters

Do we have a tagging scheme for emergency shelters to be used in times of natural disasters? Off the top of my head I could see tags such as emergency=shelter protects_from= wind flood radiation/nuclear fallout fire earthquake bomb blast pet=yes/no bed=yes/no water=yes/no food=yes/no