2014-10-20 19:13 GMT+02:00 Friedrich Volkmann :
>
> Most known caves are dry. I know because I have been in thousands of them.
>
being dry doesn't mean they are not water-related. beaches also often are
dry.
>
> please don't take wikipedia as
> your one and only reference.
I don't, but i
On 20.10.2014 17:45, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> I propose to put beach in landforms and cave in water-related. Also
> coastline could go into landforms. And moor into landforms. And mud in
> water-related. What about putting fell into landforms? ...
Most known caves are dry. I know because I hav
2014-10-17 19:25 GMT+02:00 Friedrich Volkmann :
> A cave is a hollow mould, thus a landform (or a georelief element, or
> whatever).
> I own several books on geomorphology, and each of them has a chapter on
> caves.
>
> > If we did what you propose it would still be arbitrarily divided as there
>
On 17.10.2014 16:29, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> a cave entrance isn't a landform.
There are several similar terms, like "georelief elements". I don't know
which one fits best. Anyway, these consist of one or more of:
full forms
hollow moulds
flat forms
A cave is a hollow mould, thus a landform
2014-10-17 15:49 GMT+02:00 Friedrich Volkmann :
> Let's rename "mountain related" to "landforms" and move "glacier" to "water
> related", and everything is fine.
>
a cave entrance isn't a landform. The issues with "vegetation related"
would persist. Wikipedia says about landforms: "A *landform* i
On 17.10.2014 15:49, Friedrich Volkmann wrote:
> On 17.10.2014 15:11, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>> "mountains related"
>> - a cave doesn't have to be in the mountains
>> - a cliff doesn't have to be in the mountains
>> - a "glacier" is water related and temperature related, but it doesn't
>> requi
On 17.10.2014 15:11, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> "mountains related"
> - a cave doesn't have to be in the mountains
> - a cliff doesn't have to be in the mountains
> - a "glacier" is water related and temperature related, but it doesn't
> require mountains
> - a rock can't only be found in the mou
2014-10-07 15:56 GMT+02:00 Brad Neuhauser :
> Hi Martin, regarding the wiki page, I'm assuming you're talking about
> Frankthetankk's edits? I'm not seeing what the issue is. Could you clarify
> what change you see as disputable?
sorry for taking that long to respond, I've been on vacation with
> Il giorno 07/ott/2014, alle ore 19:40, Dan S ha
> scritto:
>
> For example it's not clear to me whether you would
> accept natural=tree (see my first point), but since there are more
> than 4 million of them, I think you are going to have to accept them.
I'm in a hurry now, just a rema
Hi Martin,
OK, well since you requested comments: Firstly, I find it difficult to
understand what makes your proposed split more "coherent" or "easy to
learn" than thewiki- grouping that you propose to revert! By the way
please don't start a revert battle without first talking to that
editor.
Sec
"Now recently, the zoom rules between mud and sand/beach have diverged." -
I consider this as a bug and
I plan on fixing it in the near future (see
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/1018 ).
2014-10-07 16:49 GMT+02:00 Malcolm Herring :
> +1 if it means that the rendering o
+1 if it means that the rendering of these features is done according to
whatever is agreed. I have a particular interest in coastal and tidal
riverbank areas. I had tagged some such areas some years ago according
to the Wiki and the rendering was as expected. Since the introduction of
Carto, t
Hi Martin, regarding the wiki page, I'm assuming you're talking about
Frankthetankk's edits? I'm not seeing what the issue is. Could you clarify
what change you see as disputable? Thanks, Brad
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
wrote:
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>
> Additionally I have spotted that rece
According to the wiki, the natural key is currently a mixture of different
aspects of something. The wiki states that it covers a selection of
"geological" and "landcover" features.
My suggestion is to keep only geological/geographical features in "natural"
(all three, point features like peak and
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