Re: [Tagging] relation types: circuit proposal and an alternative

2020-01-09 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/7/20 4:18 PM, marc marc wrote:
> Le 07.01.20 à 20:58, Richard Welty a écrit :
>> a profound lack of interest
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Relations/Proposed/Circuit
> 
> maybe it's due to the funny url for a propal
> moving it at the right place may help

so i looked over the general proposal page here

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal

and there are no actual guidelines about what URL to use,
and while the non-relation proposals are generally in one place,
the relation proposals are often similar to the one for
the circuit relation proposal. on top of that, the "directory" for
proposals seems to me to be a poorly maintained mess.

i want to enter a proposal for my additional tags for
route relations, and i'm happy to move the circuit proposal
if i can get some clear direction. my hope would be to get
some genuine discussion going about the pros and cons of each,
then move one through. i suspect that adding some new tags to
the existing route relation will be easier than getting the
circuit relation through, but that's just a hunch.

richard
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Re: [Tagging] relation types: circuit proposal and an alternative

2020-01-07 Thread marc marc
Le 07.01.20 à 20:58, Richard Welty a écrit :
> a profound lack of interest
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Relations/Proposed/Circuit

maybe it's due to the funny url for a propal
moving it at the right place may help
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[Tagging] relation types: circuit proposal and an alternative

2020-01-07 Thread Richard Welty
a couple of months ago, i brought up the circuit proposal again,
to a profound lack of interest. it is being used, by myself and
others, because it does serve a need. as a reminder the original
proposal is here:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Relations/Proposed/Circuit

but in the past couple of days, i've had an idea, and you all know
how dangerous that can be.

what if, instead of adding this circuit type, we instead recognized
that the route relation already exists and the purposes of the rather
specialized circuit relation could be handled simply by adding a
raceway or race_circuit subtype.

additionally, there is a need in OHM that arises for a similar route
relation variant type for horse racing tracks, which has to do with
temporal tagging of race tracks that have served both purposes in their
lifecycles, sometimes but not always at the same time.

this seems like a really clean way to get what's needed while sticking
with a relation that already exists.

the additional tags for things like start line, finish line, etc. would
be added much like the specialized tags for outher types of routes.

thoughts?
   richard
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