Re: [Tagging] Linking Sidewalks to Highways

Am Mi., 23. Sept. 2020 um 10:47 Uhr schrieb Jeroen Hoek : > Granted, for footway=sidewalk renderers could omit the name. > > The sidepath:of:name approach has the benefit of more explicitly > declaring a way a 'sidepath of' though, and works for cycleways, > bus-lanes, etc. too. > it doesn't

Re: [Tagging] Linking Sidewalks to Highways

On 22-09-2020 23:37, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > renderers have all the necessary information to omit name for > footway=sidewalk. It is just a question of the style Granted, for footway=sidewalk renderers could omit the name. The sidepath:of:name approach has the benefit of more explicitly

Re: [Tagging] Linking Sidewalks to Highways

sent from a phone > On 22. Sep 2020, at 19:11, Jeroen Hoek wrote: > > Explicitly naming sidewalks and all other parallel ways makes for a > maintenance burden and would create a very busy rendering on most map renderers have all the necessary information to omit name for footway=sidewalk.

Re: [Tagging] Linking Sidewalks to Highways

On 21-09-2020 12:02, Supaplex wrote: > The main categories of the highway, "name" and its classification like > "primary/secondary", can be assigned to the separate way with Keys like > "sidepath:of" or "sidepath:of:name". Other values like "lit" should > anyway be tagged directly on the separate

Re: [Tagging] Linking Sidewalks to Highways

On 22-09-2020 12:30, Peter Elderson wrote: > Jeroen Hoek mailto:m...@jeroenhoek.nl>>: > > I have been applying highway=cycleway + cycleway=link as well to see how > this feels. Some early documentation I have been preparing: > >

Re: [Tagging] Linking Sidewalks to Highways

Jeroen Hoek : > I have been applying highway=cycleway + cycleway=link as well to see how > this feels. Some early documentation I have been preparing: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:JeroenHoek#cycleway.3Dlink > Why the diagonal link to the center intersection node? Wouldn't it be

Re: [Tagging] Linking Sidewalks to Highways

On 22-09-2020 00:17, Clifford Snow wrote: > It's the type of connection, going from sidewalk or dedicated bike path, > to road where I've felt we need a highway=footway_link/cyclway_link or > maybe footway_connector/cycleway_connector, to connect separated > sidewalks/cycleways to the street in

Re: [Tagging] Linking Sidewalks to Highways

sent from a phone > On 22. Sep 2020, at 00:18, Paul Allen wrote: > >> unless they are further than 200m from your actual position. > > Depends on the jurisdiction. In some parts of the US you must use a > designated crossing (at least in built-up areas). In the UK you are told > "Where

Re: [Tagging] Linking Sidewalks to Highways

On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 3:03 PM Volker Schmidt wrote: > > Mapping of sidewalks/sidepaths as part of the main road has all kinds of > problems, like width and surface tagging, the relative position of foot and > cycle paths, not to talk about roads like this >

Re: [Tagging] Linking Sidewalks to Highways

On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 at 23:04, Volker Schmidt wrote: > I think I mentioned this already in this context: in many countries you > are not allowed to cross roads everywhere you like. In Italy, for example, > you are by law required to use cross-walks, unless they are further than > 200m from your

Re: [Tagging] Linking Sidewalks to Highways

I think I mentioned this already in this context: in many countries you are not allowed to cross roads everywhere you like. In Italy, for example, you are by law required to use cross-walks, unless they are further than 200m from your actual position. I know that this is very theoretical, but it

Re: [Tagging] Linking Sidewalks to Highways

[Apologies if this was preceded by a partial reply. Damned laptop. G.] On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 at 16:11, OSM wrote: > > Am 21.09.2020 um 14:54 schrieb Paul Allen: > > This isn't as simple as you make out. Assume that I am at point A and > wish to > go to point B, which involves a "wild

Re: [Tagging] Linking Sidewalks to Highways

On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 at 16:11, OSM wrote: > > > Am 21.09.2020 um 14:54 schrieb Paul Allen: > > > This isn't as simple as you make out. Assume that I am at point A and > wish to > go to point B, which involves a "wild crossing" at some point between the > two. > However, there is a real crossing

Re: [Tagging] Linking Sidewalks to Highways

So we need a way to determine the crossability of a road for walkers and cyclists, probably using a combination of highway value of the crossed way, maybe the access tag (foot=yes probably can be crossed on foot) and some indicator tag for crossing access (foot:crossing=yes/no ?) to tag

Re: [Tagging] Linking Sidewalks to Highways

Sorry sorry for the noise - I dont know, who pushed the send button that often ... Georg ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Linking Sidewalks to Highways

Am 21.09.2020 um 14:54 schrieb Paul Allen: On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 at 11:06, Supaplex > wrote: The problem remains that physically non-existent road crossings ("wildly crossing the street"), which in reality represent a crossing possibility for many users,

Re: [Tagging] Linking Sidewalks to Highways

On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 at 11:06, Supaplex wrote: The problem remains that physically non-existent road crossings ("wildly > crossing the street"), which in reality represent a crossing possibility > for many users, are still not available for routing. In my opinion, this > problem is not very

Re: [Tagging] Linking Sidewalks to Highways

It's centered on motorists‘ point of view as long as cars are granted the central role as user group of streets in the traffic planning discourse - for the time after that we already have highway=living_street, highway=pedestrian and bicycle_road=yes. ;) Am 21.09.20 um 12:42 schrieb Martin

Re: [Tagging] Linking Sidewalks to Highways

isn’t this all centered on motorists‘ point of view? What do people think about seeing it from other perspectives, e.g. highway=cycleway and adding tags like primary=track (means there is an implied primary road, physically separated, which is running along this cycleway). Can also be done for

Re: [Tagging] Linking Sidewalks to Highways

This leads to another topic where there is just as much need for action. You can find the is_sidepath-scheme here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Key:is_sidepath It looks like a stub (note also the talk page), because the idea is very simple but still solves some big

[Tagging] Linking Sidewalks to Highways Was: Re: "width" on streets: Time for a recommendation

On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 21:35, Tobias Knerr wrote: > On 17.09.20 02:35, Taskar Center wrote: > > This is yet another example why "sticking" the sidewalks onto the > > highway (as a tag) rather than mapping them as separate ways is > > appearing to be less and less practical. Please see our